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Joementum posted:The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate Disco > US Politics August - We tortured some folks
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Aug 1, 2014 21:06
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Magres posted:Go read the I/P thread If I want to watch two groups of entrenched people engaging in long-winded, pointless arguments while the world burns, I'll just go re-watch "Apocalypse Now".
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Aug 1, 2014 21:11
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I have the impression that eventually (maybe even now) Obamacare will be blamed for things that were already true of our healthcare system. IE: A healthy young person who's never been injured or paid much attention to politics breaks his leg and has to go to the hospital. When he gets the bill he's shocked at the cost. Must be Obamacare. An employee at X company just received a notice that his health insurance premium will rise by 1-2% this year. This is significantly lower than the historic rates (I think) but he doesn't know this. All he knows is that right after this Obamacare thing went into affect his insurance costs went up. It really surprises me how bad people's memories are. I'm pretty sure my Grandma was alive back when taxes were significantly higher than they are now but according to her Obummer (the guy that lowered my payroll taxes) is killing us all with taxes, taxes that are so obscenely high no one can get by but the very rich or the lazy poors who don't pay taxes. edit: I also remember a bunch of my co-workers going nuts about the payroll tax increase in 2012/2013. Even though another co-worker and I explained to them what had happened (Obama lowered payroll taxes when he was elected and now conservatives forced him to bring them back up) the "Obama raised our taxes" meme continued. Sephiroth_IRA fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Aug 1, 2014 |
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Aug 1, 2014 21:11
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Zeroisanumber posted:If I want to watch two groups of entrenched people engaging in long-winded, pointless arguments while the world burns, I'll just go re-watch "Apocalypse Now". Actually it's mostly been a bunch of people being sad about dead kids and a rotating cast of apologists for war crimes, speaking one at a time.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:13
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:I have the impression that eventually (maybe even now) Obamacare will be blamed for things that were already true of our healthcare system. IE: A healthy young person who's never been injured or paid much attention to politics breaks his leg and has to go to the hospital. When he gets the bill he's shocked at the cost. Must be Obamacare. Why would they not remember how things were before but would remember the term "Obamacare"? Unless you literally mean within the next two years in which case there's a man named Cruz who's determined to make people forget about healthcare.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:14
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Candidate for Ohio Governor, Ed FitzGerald (running against Kasich), had a police report filed on him and some chick for sitting around in a parked car somewhere at 4:30 am, in 2012. http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2014/08/call_about_suspicious_car_led.html#incart_m-rpt-1 Now, on one hand, I honestly don't believe this was just innocent thing. On the other hand, I'm not convinced much actually happened because they were in a Ford Focus.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:14
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Winkie01 posted:They just did. Well except, you know, they were trying to legitimately uncover some hosed up poo poo the CIA was doing... as in they were actually doing their jobs.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:15
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Zeroisanumber posted:If I want to watch two groups of entrenched people engaging in long-winded, pointless arguments while the world burns, I'll just go re-watch "Apocalypse Now". As Zeitgueist said, it's not really entrenched arguments much anymore, it's mostly everyone watching, horrified, and collectively mourning for the dead, and occasionally some shitlord drops in and defends Israel and winds up getting banned when they let the mask slip and do things like calling the people of Palestine 'cockroaches.'
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Aug 1, 2014 21:21
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:I have the impression that eventually (maybe even now) Obamacare will be blamed for things that were already true of our healthcare system. IE: A healthy young person who's never been injured or paid much attention to politics breaks his leg and has to go to the hospital. When he gets the bill he's shocked at the cost. Must be Obamacare. My great-aunt has documented what seems like every instance of a doctor retiring in her part of the state since 2010 on Facebook, all with some variation on 'ANOTHER FINE DOCTOR WHO'D RATHER QUIT THAN HAVE TO DEAL WITH OBAMACARE.........' made of bees fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Aug 1, 2014 |
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Aug 1, 2014 21:21
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The Rules Committee is now meeting, so the bill(s) have been written and there should be floor debate in an hour or two with votes an hour after that begins. Alcee Hastings is now asking the Republicans, "So, what's your best case scenario for deploying the National Guard here?"
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Aug 1, 2014 21:22
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Joementum posted:The Rules Committee is now meeting, so the bill(s) have been written and there should be floor debate in an hour or two with votes an hour after that begins. Winning the mid-terms.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:24
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Joementum posted:Alcee Hastings is now asking the Republicans, "So, what's your best case scenario for deploying the National Guard here?" "We don't actually do it and this is all just grandstanding for frightened racists." Oops, had this thing set on "honest answer".
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Aug 1, 2014 21:24
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Is it sad that I hope the Tea Party nutcases write up a deportation bill that somehow manages to classify everyone as an illegal immigrant? Maybe by having something about "the descendants of illegal immigrants, where illegal is defined as not having the proper paperwork, are also classified as illegal immigrants" while the "proper paperwork" was something instituted recently (or was shot down in congress already)?
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Aug 1, 2014 21:34
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computer parts posted:Why would they not remember how things were before but would remember the term "Obamacare"? Well right now I'm talking about the near future but I expect we'll hear the term Obamacare for a long time.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:41
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Randalor posted:Is it sad that I hope the Tea Party nutcases write up a deportation bill that somehow manages to classify everyone as an illegal immigrant? Maybe by having something about "the descendants of illegal immigrants, where illegal is defined as not having the proper paperwork, are also classified as illegal immigrants" while the "proper paperwork" was something instituted recently (or was shot down in congress already)? I am surprised the tea party has not thrown their support to this plan http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/live-news/2014/7/the-kkk-is-back-andarenothappywiththeimmigrationproblem.html The KKK want to enact a shoot immigrant policy quote:The Klansmen purport to represent the "Loyal White Knights" of North Carolina, described by Ray as "the largest active KKK operation in America"
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Aug 1, 2014 21:49
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:I have the impression that eventually (maybe even now) Obamacare will be blamed for things that were already true of our healthcare system. IE: A healthy young person who's never been injured or paid much attention to politics breaks his leg and has to go to the hospital. When he gets the bill he's shocked at the cost. Must be Obamacare. This is already happening, based on my voter contact experiences over the last few years. Folks just sort of conflate anything "healthcare" with "Obamacare" now. For instance, I've had folks bitch about the limited open enrollment period in Obamacare with literally no concept that that's standard practice.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:50
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Not to mention Dems in red states (notably Kentucky) are consciously avoiding saying to people that they now have insurance due to Obamacare in the fear that they will reject it out of spite.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:07
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Can someone tell me how D&D got the title it did? Who said that? Also, can someone explain to me why, after the last 4 years of complete intransigence and do-nothing approach to governance, I continue to see projections that the Republicans will not only retake the Senate, but maintain and perhaps increase their advantage in the House? Why are Americans so loving stupid in not seeing how utterly plutocratic Republicans are? Is the answer gerrymandering? Because I'm getting ready to go all Budd Dwyer if we have a Republican majority in Congress, doubly so if we elect president Cruz, Rubio or Christie in 2016.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:15
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a shameful boehner posted:Can someone tell me how D&D got the title it did? Who said that? President Barack Hussein Obama around 3:15 PM today.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:17
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a shameful boehner posted:Can someone tell me how D&D got the title it did? Who said that? Obama. A casual tone was probably not the best choice.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:17
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Also, hey, I guess it's August.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:22
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 less than two weeks to my birthdayFor my birthday I want Ted Cruz's humiliation and downfall. Don't disappoint me goons E: Sorry this kind of post belongs in the chat thread. Old habits 
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Aug 1, 2014 22:23
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The GOP brain trust pore over their handiwork in advance of the vote. While nearby, Mike Michaud of Maine decides to drink a suicide solution. 
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Aug 1, 2014 22:24
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Magres posted:As Zeitgueist said, it's not really entrenched arguments much anymore, it's mostly everyone watching, horrified, and collectively mourning for the dead, and occasionally some shitlord drops in and defends Israel and winds up getting banned when they let the mask slip and do things like calling the people of Palestine 'cockroaches.' Yeah, the entrenched arguments is going on in the political cartoons thread
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Aug 1, 2014 22:33
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a shameful boehner posted:Also, can someone explain to me why, after the last 4 years of complete intransigence and do-nothing approach to governance, I continue to see projections that the Republicans will not only retake the Senate, but maintain and perhaps increase their advantage in the House? Why are Americans so loving stupid in not seeing how utterly plutocratic Republicans are? The Senate is naturally gerrymandered in favor of the Republicans and due to only one third of it coming up each two years, the group coming up happens to be very favorable to the Republicans (few weak Republicans, many weak Democrats), The House is intentionally gerrymandered, and Democratic turnout is worse in off years than in Presidential years. That said it should be a foregone conclusion the Democrats would lose the Senate given the elections happening this year, so that it's only like 50-60% chance they do means some people are paying attention.
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Aug 1, 2014 22:35
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Joementum posted:Here's the video of Harry Reid explaining the rules of the Senate to a freshman Senator. I know what happened there, but never saw the video itself. Holy gently caress 
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Aug 1, 2014 22:50
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It's so weird watching Republicans pretend they're actually legislating for realsies. edit ^: the way he repeatedly calls him "my friend from Texas" over a not-even-concealed smirk is hilarious
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Aug 1, 2014 22:54
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Magres posted:when they let the mask slip and do things like calling the people of Palestine 'cockroaches.' This has been brought up before but I'm really glad that other people are just as creeped out as I am over people being described as vermin. Otherizing people as exterminable is Genocide 101 and I was starting to worry that people weren't seeing this poo poo. D1Sergo fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Aug 1, 2014 |
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Aug 1, 2014 22:58
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D1Sergo posted:This has been brought up before but I'm really glad that other people are just as creeped out as I am over people being described as vermin. Otherizing people as exterminable is Genocide 101 and I was starting to worry that people weren't seeing this poo poo. I can find gentler calls for genocide in Der Sturmer.
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Aug 1, 2014 23:02
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D1Sergo posted:This has been brought up before but I'm really glad that other people are just as creeped out as I am over people being described as vermin. Otherizing people as exterminable is Genocide 101 and I was starting to worry that people weren't seeing this poo poo. The specific term "cockroaches" was used a lot on Radio Rwanda to describe Tutsis, prior to the genocide there, so it makes the whole thing even more sick.
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Aug 1, 2014 23:10
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Good news, America! You can now trust your retirement savings are safe in the hands of Dick Morris. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkSiDM8Wh6s
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Aug 1, 2014 23:10
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Joementum posted:Good news, America! You can now trust your retirement savings are safe in the hands of Dick Morris. I wouldn't trust Dick Morris with poo poo. Literal poo poo. Guy would promise me money if I poop in a Dick Morris Brand Toilet and three months later it would wake up in the night and burn down my house.
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Aug 1, 2014 23:19
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Joementum posted:Good news, America! You can now trust your retirement savings are safe in the hands of Dick Morris. Personally I prefer my dick to be in my own hands, but - wait, I misread your post. Nevermind.
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Aug 1, 2014 23:19
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Hedera Helix posted:The specific term "cockroaches" was used a lot on Radio Rwanda to describe Tutsis, prior to the genocide there, so it makes the whole thing even more sick. 
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Aug 1, 2014 23:23
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ufarn posted:Kind of amazing he says something like that, when people at the presser are bored out of their skulls and just starving for the tiniest morsel to pounce on. To be honest Obama looked utterly exhausted and sick of this poo poo. There was an unusual amount of candor on his part and more people should probably see the whole thing than are actually going to.
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Aug 1, 2014 23:23
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GROVER CURES HOUSE posted:I can find gentler calls for genocide in Der Sturmer. I remember the last time a bunch of right wing lunatics accused a group they wanted to genocide of being vermin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIQp31Oyn70
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Aug 1, 2014 23:24
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Two Pullitzer-winning Editorial Cartoonist Michael Ramirez, everyone!
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Aug 1, 2014 23:26
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Randalor posted:Is it sad that I hope the Tea Party nutcases write up a deportation bill that somehow manages to classify everyone as an illegal immigrant? Maybe by having something about "the descendants of illegal immigrants, where illegal is defined as not having the proper paperwork, are also classified as illegal immigrants" while the "proper paperwork" was something instituted recently (or was shot down in congress already)? Congratulations, they are writing it. http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/gop-hands-immigration-policy-over-steve-king Curious how amusingly bad its going to be.
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Aug 1, 2014 23:29
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Joementum posted:Good news, America! You can now trust your retirement savings are safe in the hands of Dick Morris. Oh.. the guy that said Romney would win in a landslide.
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Aug 1, 2014 23:30
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The subhuman Iranians are spreading their corrupting influence across the Middle East, spreading all over Iraq and threatening to do the same to the legitimate (and individually labelled) nations of Saudi Arabia, Gaza, and the West Bank. A radical Sunni cartoon. Shear Modulus fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Aug 1, 2014 |
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