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DrPain posted:I am strangely OK with being Jabba, actually. As long as you Hutt chortle at your customers.
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DrPain posted:I am strangely OK with being Jabba, actually. I think he had sideburns too. I'm ok with being watto. I don't mind peddling burnt out junk
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movax posted:As long as you Hutt chortle at your customers. Honda, mah bukee, keel-ee calleya ku kah. Ho ho ho.
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cursedshitbox posted:however. Don't forget, that if you're bad at math and still want to be a engineer, there is always civil engineering waiting with arms wide open. As a civil engineer in the environmental field, NOOOOOooooo. Don't send them this way. The next engineer that we hire that can't calculate the volume of water in a well casing might get stabbed. I just spent 3 days in the field with a guy who had zero common sense. Also, I'm currently sitting in the Vegas airport on a layover. Dear god, how do you live in this town with the incessant video poker sounds?
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DrPain posted:Honda, mah bukee, keel-ee calleya ku kah. Ho ho ho. Bargon wanchi kox paa. Oh ho ho ho ho! smax posted:Also, I'm currently sitting in the Vegas airport on a layover. Dear god, how do you live in this town with the incessant video poker sounds? No joke, that poo poo becomes background noise. You don't even hear it after a while. Most of the time, you only hear that crap at the airport or in actual casinos. The convenience and grocery stores have the sound off or very low. Thanks for talking with me this morning, DrPain. If I can't get my issue fixed myself, what day next week would be good for you to take a look at my car?
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smax posted:As a civil engineer in the environmental field, NOOOOOooooo. Don't send them this way. The next engineer that we hire that can't calculate the volume of water in a well casing might get stabbed. I just spent 3 days in the field with a guy who had zero common sense. Really? He couldn't do simple geometry to calculate the volume of a cylinder? Admittedly, all of the purge logs i ever used or made had a conversion table on them (multiply water column height by X, Y, or Z, based on casing diameter) but I could still do the drat math if I needed. Goddamn people are stupid sometimes.
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bandman posted:Really? He couldn't do simple geometry to calculate the volume of a cylinder? Admittedly, all of the purge logs i ever used or made had a conversion table on them (multiply water column height by X, Y, or Z, based on casing diameter) but I could still do the drat math if I needed. Goddamn people are stupid sometimes. There are flash calculators on google, apps for your phone... I am mostly impressed that he was able to get a degree without figuring out that there are tools that do all the work for you and make you look smart and/or without learning math. Also - I love this thread, please don't stop. Don't stop!
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So which of your wise Jedi Master diagnostic techs would be Obi-Wan? My vote goes to whoever figured out that grounding issue problem on that Nissan.
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Left Ventricle posted:Thanks for talking with me this morning, DrPain. If I can't get my issue fixed myself, what day next week would be good for you to take a look at my car? Anytime, really, my schedule is pretty open this week. Just get it to me in the morning so we can spend some time with it. ProtonStorm posted:So which of your wise Jedi Master diagnostic techs would be Obi-Wan? My vote goes to whoever figured out that grounding issue problem on that Nissan. That would be Mark.
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Obi-Wan is younger, and less crotchety. I also have a smog coming to you sometime around the 15th.
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DrPain posted:Exit interview. Heh. I told him that he's being let go due to multiple no call, no shows, and to turn in his uniforms, which he still hasn't done. quote:Nevada is a right to work state, I don't even need a reason to terminate, and by the same token employees can quit for any or no reason. Sorry for being pendantic, but this gets brought up in the I.T. threads a lot. You're thinking of 'At Will' employment. IIRC, 'Right to Work' has something to do with Unions. Anyway, while I'm not really much of a car guy, I'm enjoying the hell out of this thread. It's neat to see some of the behind the scenes of an auto shop. Thanks for this.
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I had a really awesome mentor at my first job who called me on that bullshit and set me straight, maybey this will teach him something. Do you think you will take on another apprentice?
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TWBalls posted:
Nevada is both. Unless you work at a unionized hotel or for a unionized mine, you're screwed here as a worker.
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It's funny that the paper gasket was the reason for the failures, when every Felpro thing I've bought in the past several years has ads on the back for FELPRO PERMATORQUE MLS GASKETS FOR MODERN ENGINE APPLICATIONS or some poo poo like that. I'm sort of disappointed, Felpro seems to be pretty drat good for aftermarket parts (unless I'm tired of wrenching and drunk and slap the thing on carelessly because gently caress why do I even work on cars anymore I hate doing this poo poo so much now gently caress this poo poo where's the bourbon...)
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cursedshitbox posted:Obi-Wan is younger, and less crotchety. Ok, but I hope you realize I am honor bound to post a line item lampooning of whatever jalopy you roll in here now that this thread has taken off. AcidRonin posted:I had a really awesome mentor at my first job who called me on that bullshit and set me straight, maybey this will teach him something. Do you think you will take on another apprentice? I still need to find my Luke Skywalker, yes. Someone must bring balance to the force. My logo for the Bat Truck arrived.  Oh yeah, check out all it's majesty. I feel like I got it mostly level, I removed the grille and used a string line on my third attempt. Haters vacate. Then on my drive home it popped a check engine light, setting a code for P1143 indicating a fault with the Evap Purge Vent Solenoid.  It's a very common failure on this vintage of Ranger, that solenoid, I just replaced it prior to my smog check in March. I got a warranty replacement from the parts store and replaced it, again. These fuckin' things, man. It's just a little solenoid that opens at high RPM to vent evaporated fuel fumes back into the intake, so dumb that it has to break all the time. Genuine OEM Motorcraft, aftermarket BWD brand, it doesn't matter, they all suck, it's just a matter of how much do you want to pay for a sucky part.  Holy poo poo what a bad picture of this familiar 2006 4runner. This Toyota and it's owner have been coming to us for a while, I might have even posted about it before. Their other vehicle is that Santa Fe which got pulverized by our neighbor's bus, so I'm glad to see them return.  Today it's in for a simple repair, the fuel door release had stopped releasing the fuel door. We found the cable to it kinked and popped out of the handle. A bit of lube, a bit of mechanical convincing, and a bit of contortion were required to get under the dash, straighten the cable, and reinstall it into the handle. Easy peasy, no charge. The customer returned a short time later with a 12 pack of beer. Protip: Always keep your mechanics well lubricated.   In greybeard stuff, they worked on getting an old 1975 Johnson 9.9hp outboard motor running again for the first time in a long while. The boat belongs to the gentleman in red, and he had it all hosed up with spark plugs that were way way too long and made contact with the pistons.  Here you can see the plugs removed from the motor, and the pack of greybeards testing for spark. I do believe they finally got it running, (thankfully?) the wrong spark plugs did not result in catastrophic failure. They'll be taking on a fishing trip in Southern Utah later this summer. Mark has a small cabin in the Cedar Mountain area, for those both familiar and curious. I'll actually be up at the cabin this weekend for both mine and my wife's birthdays, which are a week apart. Her's being the 10th and mine the 18th. I plan on smoking a pork butt to celebrate. Hehehehe. I am the height of maturity, you see.  This 2008 PT Cruiser came in with complaints of a noise in the right front, overheating, and a/c inoperable. Before we address any of that, however, I just need to check one thing on the back there...  Yep. Brony confirmed.   Ok moving on, it's real fuckin' easy to overheat and have a non-functional A/C system when your cooling fan doesn't run. It got replaced, but not quickly.  If you look very closely, you can see the new fan installed here. A PT is mechanically identical to a Neon, the difference being the body on the PT is absolutely wrapped around the entire engine and makes any mechanical repair a complete loving bastard. Doubly so for the turbo models. "BUT IT'S SOOOO CUTE!"    The noise in the right front was determined to be a failing wheel bearing.  The failed bearing.  It got replaced along with the hub. Another job well done.  A 2006 Trailblazer 4.2L straight six also dropped in. This customer does their own oil changes, and noticed that the mechanical fan was a bit wobbly on his last under the hood adventure.  The mechanical fan (and it's horrendously expensive electronic fan clutch, we won't get into that though) are attached to the water pump on this specific engine. The bearings in the water pump were going south, resulting in his fan wobble.   New water pump installed, pictured here.  Reusing the picture of our 94 E150 travel van, because the customer is in no big hurry, and the jobs are all kind of on the laborious side of things, it's become a backburner ticket.  We replaced the radiator! This loving thing is probably worth $70 in scrap brass weight alone.  Scrap! Scrap for the scrap god! All 4 brakes got done, with new rotors/pads, and drums/shoes. Scrap... shop crap... shop... s crap.  Crikey I'm really bad with a camera. You'll just have to take my word that we worked on a 2001 Ford Explorer SPORT. I really dig the 2 door Explorers, actually. I don't see them all that often, right up there with the mythical 2 door Tahoe unicorn. It's in for failed smog.  We determined it's got a massive vacuum leak from a hosed up intake manifold gasket. This was done very scientifically by spraying brake clean at the intake and listening for a surge in the engine. There are more "correct" and "factory approved" methods to check for this kind of failure, but none nearly as fun. We removed the upper and lower intakes (this 4.0 Ford V6 uses a plastic intake, NISSAN) and found cyl #3 looking like it this, you can visibly see where the gasket has failed on the left side there.  None of the intake gaskets looked particularly healthy, really, I believe this was cyl #4 on the opposite bank.  The gaskets live inside grooves on the lower intake, and they were all harder than a preachers dick after 13 years of heat cycling. Gaskets seal by making a squishy layer in between two more rigid things, in this case a plastic intake and a metal engine block. When your gaskets get hard, they can crack and leak.  Like this.  We stuffed rags into the engine block, to keep debris from falling down into the engine while we sanded the mating surface smooth.  Voila! One freshly sanded mating surface.  Since we had the intake removed, we gave both pieces a good solvent bath in the parts washer, just for the hell of it.    Fresh gaskets were installed. I'M COUNTING ON YOU TO NOT gently caress UP A PLASTIC GASKET, FELPRO. New gaskets are blue, must be for RACIN'!!   A sanding wheel was also very gingerly taken to topmost piece of the intake, again to create a clean mating surface for our new gaskets. This part of the intake is often referred to as a "plenum" and the throttle body bolts to it. The intake was reinstalled, a drive cycle performed, and a smog check passed, hooray!!! 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DrPain posted:A PT is mechanically identical to a Neon, the difference being the body on the PT is absolutely wrapped around the entire engine and makes any mechanical repair a complete loving bastard. Doubly so for the turbo models. I have another coworker who has one of these, thank God he doesn't ask me to work on it much. It started overheating, so he had his guy do the thermostat, but it's still overheating. His mechanic then said "You need a head gasket. It's $3,000" so of course he's getting a second opinion. My coworker knows for a fact the regular mechanic hasn't done a compression test or leakdown test, hopefully they're not his regular mechanic any more.
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You're blacking out pictures of neighboring businesses? You don't want people in AI to know where your auto shop is?
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Backov posted:You're blacking out pictures of neighboring businesses? You don't want people in AI to know where your auto shop is? Just a precaution. Don't want my neighbors to know the true depth of my madness, mostly. I do the same with license plates, just to protect their privacy. Comedy option: I like to give bucephalus a challenge. DrPain fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Aug 5, 2014 |
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He doesn't even want the possibility of one of us showing up with one of our own cars to fix. He doesn't want to risk accidentally removing one of our structural zip ties.
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People on the internet can take things very seriously.
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13 doesn't get trouble with that, and I don't think Goatse Guy did either (though she's now moved). We're mostly normal.
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First rule of business: Cover Your rear end. Can we just accept that this thread is not about my neighbors and call it good?
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DrPain posted:
I've owned a lot of Fords of all vintages from 60s to the 2000s. The Explorer Sport was the only one I truly hated. With a passion. The worst part was the clutch. It took herculean effort to push in and you were worn out after driving it. I was not saddened to see it go. I like me a good 2-door SUV but that one sucked.
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DrPain posted:A 2006 Trailblazer 4.2L straight six If you won't then I will. gently caress that thing. My mom's '02 EXT has been through three or four of the loving things, and they aren't cheap. You get a CEL when they fail and thus can't pass emissions either, even if it's not overheating or overcooling. In hindsight, it would've been cheaper to buy another HPTuners credit, swap to the pure-mechanical fan they used on the last years of the Atlas (2009 I think?) and reflash the ECM to match.
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IOwnCalculus posted:If you won't then I will. gently caress that thing. My mom's '02 EXT has been through three or four of the loving things, and they aren't cheap. You get a CEL when they fail and thus can't pass emissions either, even if it's not overheating or overcooling. Trailblazer_ownership.txt right there. Everybody has been through a few of them. That's a pretty great idea on the swap and flash, though. I'll run it by my PCM jockey.
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It's definitely doable - the HPTuners help page covers the options available:quote:Fan Type With a purely mechanical fan you'd want to go with the "No Fans" option, I think. Or go the other way around, rip the mechanical off, slap some electric fans in place, and see about repurposing the electroviscous wiring to control relays instead. Or just delete the CEL codes, that'd be an option too. IOwnCalculus fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Aug 5, 2014 |
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DrPain posted:Trailblazer_ownership.txt right there. Everybody has been through a few of them. I used to have a trailblazer and so did my mom. gently caress those trucks. They were just awful in every way imaginable. I replaced 1, moms ate 3. We have had the discussion before, but the motor is a kick rear end machine, tons of power and lots of torque, but the 4 speed auto and gearing keeps the 6 out of its torque curve. It was always hunting for the right gear though.
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My friend had one, one of my favorite repairs was the power steering line. which could have been 2 hard lines, and 2 hoses so you could replacce whatever was wrong with it in a couple minutes. Instead, both hard lines and hoses are all 1 part that's routed through all kinds of fun stuff. Buying aftermarket, you can get the hoses individually, but from GM it's 1 part, and it's over $300. The funniest part is, they stock part is recalled in the US, but not in canada.
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DrPain posted:Comedy option: I like to give bucephalus a challenge. Oh, you. 
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Powershift posted:He doesn't even want the possibility of one of us showing up with one of our own cars to fix. Fixed for ChryCo products.
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DrPain posted:
That manifold is just  why does it need two torturous ducts going from the TB to the plenum, it makes no loving sense.
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It's most likely tuned for greater efficienty/torque at a certain rpm. Longer, thinner intake runners generally give greater low end torque at the cost of high end horsepower.
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IOwnCalculus posted:If you won't then I will. gently caress that thing. My mom's '02 EXT has been through three or four of the loving things, and they aren't cheap. You get a CEL when they fail and thus can't pass emissions either, even if it's not overheating or overcooling. As someone who's never encountered one of these clutches (and hopefully never will) - what the hell was the point of this over a traditional mechanical clutch, or traditional electric fans? Surely the bean counters couldn't have been involved, as this had to be more expensive than the other options - was there just too much meth in the engineering department that month? I mean hell, how do they even connect (electrically)? And what the gently caress do they do that's so different than a regular fan clutch? I always did like the TrailBlazers for some reason, but I've also known to avoid them because of this issue.
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Maybe it was more of a Blazer thing, but also maybe the Trailblazer - I never owned one, but the thing that always irked me about them was the fan noise. If you ever walked past an idling xBlazer, it always sounded like a it was pre-lighting for afterburner runs or something You can't even hear the engine over the fan noise.
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some texas redneck posted:As someone who's never encountered one of these clutches (and hopefully never will) - what the hell was the point of this over a traditional mechanical clutch, or traditional electric fans? Surely the bean counters couldn't have been involved, as this had to be more expensive than the other options - was there just too much meth in the engineering department that month? I mean hell, how do they even connect (electrically)? Well, you see...  ...there is exactly no advantage to this, especially when one of these electric fan clutches costs more than an entire electric cooling fan assembly would have, and the clutch is a very common failure item. Just be thankful that the aftermarket has developed a cheaper replacement part. Once upon a time, it was a dealer only part.  robotsinmyhead posted:Maybe it was more of a Blazer thing, but also maybe the Trailblazer - I never owned one, but the thing that always irked me about them was the fan noise. If you ever walked past an idling xBlazer, it always sounded like a it was pre-lighting for afterburner runs or something You can't even hear the engine over the fan noise. It's both awesome and hilarious to me that they included your complaint in the fan clutch theory of operation. 
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DrPain beat me to it but yes, there is literally no advantage to this setup other than the fact that GM insists on putting mechanical fans on trucks, and wanted some vague computer control of it (notice how many times it says that it takes a couple minutes to actually reach 100% speed!) The really stupid thing in my mind is that both the '98+ FBody and C6 electric fans fit on it drat well - it's not like GM didn't have any fans that can fit the radiator. I think the last replacement on my mom's must've been an aftermarket part because it's held up longer than any of the previous ones, by quite a few years now.
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Wow, and I thought the hydraulic fan on my Jeep was a pontlessly complex design.
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I also have a hydraulic fan on my car. I really don't see the point, especially as one of the auxiliary radiators has a conventional electric fan (so you obviously know they exist, Toyota). Hilariously, the hydraulic fan circuit has it's own cooling little radiator as well.
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ShittyPostmakerPro posted:I also have a hydraulic fan on my car. I really don't see the point, especially as one of the auxiliary radiators has a conventional electric fan (so you obviously know they exist, Toyota). Hilariously, the hydraulic fan circuit has it's own cooling little radiator as well. But then the radiator needs a cooling fan, which is hydraulic, and...
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A Melted Tarp posted:But then the radiator needs a cooling fan, which is hydraulic, and... I'm thinking of putting an old computer fan on the radiator cooling fan radiator, just for that joke.
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