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sudonim
Oct 6, 2005

SubponticatePoster posted:

...an EDIbot that was the only one left alive who would not pick up the pizza delivery and instead ran around it in circles while the rest of us yelled "pick up the goddamn package" at him for 2 minutes, but our successful plat run went well at just over 30 minutes.

I hate this so much. I really don't mind all players slapfighting to be the one to carrying the pizza / hack a hackpoint because it's so much better than the alternative of everyone failing to acknowledge that IF WE DON'T FUCKIN DO WHAT THE DUDE SAYS IN THE TIME WE GOT WE LOSE.

Worst I ever saw was a hack-an-area round. We all got to the hack area and I embarrassingly get instabansheed 20 seconds in. The rest of the team fights off hoards of reapers while zipping in and out of area but the hack meter is going up slowly but surely. Eventually two others die and the only one left is a Geth Jugg who circles juuuust outside the hack area for some reason. He did that for the last thirty seconds while the meter had like a pixel to go. Time's up, you lose by a pixel!

Only time I legitimately wanted to slap another player.

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Smol
Jun 1, 2011

Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus.
Does the hack meter go up more slowly (per player) in 4 player games? In solos it's no problem to leave the circle to lure the enemies away a few times even though you're doing it alone.

Felinoid
Mar 8, 2009

Marginally better than Shepard's dancing. 2/10

Smol posted:

Does the hack meter go up more slowly (per player) in 4 player games? In solos it's no problem to leave the circle to lure the enemies away a few times even though you're doing it alone.

Yes. When you're soloing it basically acts like you've got 4/4 doing it. Same for escorts. It probably does the same kind of thing for 2 or 3 person teams, just working based on the fraction.

Why they decided that those should go half speed when you've got 3 out of 4 I don't know. Or maybe that's just observational bias.

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

Smol posted:

Does the hack meter go up more slowly (per player) in 4 player games? In solos it's no problem to leave the circle to lure the enemies away a few times even though you're doing it alone.
Isn't there even a way to cheese it solo so you don't have to be in the circle at all?

Smol
Jun 1, 2011

Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus.

SubponticatePoster posted:

Isn't there even a way to cheese it solo so you don't have to be in the circle at all?

Yup.

Cash Monet
Apr 5, 2009

I have a Venom IX what can I do with it?

Felinoid
Mar 8, 2009

Marginally better than Shepard's dancing. 2/10

commy gun posted:

I have a Venom IX what can I do with it?

Host, and charge that sucker.

Smol
Jun 1, 2011

Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus.

commy gun posted:

I have a Venom IX what can I do with it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC7zUO0SBiU

Welcome to the church of stagger.

My Q-Face
Jul 8, 2002

A dumb racist who need to kill themselves

SubponticatePoster posted:

I dragged Q-Face through some gold and plat matches yesterday. We had some disasters involving bad connections and an EDIbot that was the only one left alive who would not pick up the pizza delivery and instead ran around it in circles while the rest of us yelled "pick up the goddamn package" at him for 2 minutes, but our successful plat run went well at just over 30 minutes.

Thanks! It was pretty awesome, and educational. And I got a Volus Adept out of it!

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
I got a Geth Juggernaut.

:catdrugs:

Is this thing real? I had just promoted the Soldier class, so it was only like level 8. I still topscored easily on a 3 player Gold match while high out of my mind.

I can't even imagine how good this thing is properly specced out.

Too bad my PC died shortly thereafter :(

Operant
Apr 1, 2010

LET THERE BE NO GENESIS
Juggs can solo plat, that will give you a good idea of how they work.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
Oh no, I know how good they can work, I just didn't REALLY know until I finally played one myself.

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.



Leif. posted:

Oh no, I know how good they can work, I just didn't REALLY know until I finally played one myself.

There's three ways to play them.

1) Spec siege pulse for damage. Use a weapon that imparts ammo power well. Use siege pulse all the goddamn time. Watch things boom.

2) Spec siege pulse for survivability. Use an incinerating reegar. Make things go boom less frequently, specifically when enemies start to cluster. Laugh like a madman.

3) The wrong way.

Cash Monet
Apr 5, 2009

Leif. posted:

I can't even imagine how good this thing is properly specced out.

Have you ever thought to yourself, "man, I wonder what it'd be like to be a boss fight in a Metal Gear game." Good news, you have the Juggernaut!

Go all damage protection siege pulse, weapon damage and health bonuses, and whatever your fancy for the hex shield. Your gonna get swarmed alot so go for a gun that's good for crowd control. The Reegar is the obvious choice but if you dont have it or its too low level I'd recommend the Piranha or AT-12 Raider.

If you don't have those either (:() just make sure you have something that can deal with crowds. Your going to get swarmed alot so an assault rifle with a high rate of fire or a shotgun with a decent rate of fire makes sense. Remember, you can hold up and suck away shields/barriers of non armored grunts, so even if you have noob gear you can still give a phantom the back hand then blast them when they fall to the ground.

It also doesn't hurt to have a gun like the Acolyte or a pistol with range that's lightweight and can do some damage from afar.

Cash Monet fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Aug 5, 2014

Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!

commy gun posted:

Have you ever thought to yourself, "man, I wonder what it'd be like to be a boss fight in a Metal Gear game." Good news, you have the Juggernaut!

But the Collector Adept is the one that shoots bees.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
So geth turret is useless for the Jugg I guess? I've got a Reegar IX so I'm in pretty good shape there; unfortunately my PC died so I am stuck theorycrafting for a while.

Felinoid
Mar 8, 2009

Marginally better than Shepard's dancing. 2/10

Leif. posted:

So geth turret is useless for the Jugg I guess? I've got a Reegar IX so I'm in pretty good shape there; unfortunately my PC died so I am stuck theorycrafting for a while.

I wouldn't say it's useless (sticking a shield recharger in places for a low cooldown is handy), it's just that your other abilities are much more important. Even the class skill you probably want to take to 6 for weapon damage, since he's a weapons platform.

Personally I run a weird 6/6/3/5/6 build, where the shield is at 3, but that's just for keeping silver pubs from eating themselves. If I was going to take it to Gold I'd respec it completely.

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde
Turret flamethrower will also help with techsplosions so it's not completely useless on higher levels. I spec my jug the "wrong" way (purely a tank) but I only use him for plat farming so it works out.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester


I still haven't seen a single harrier or saber in my game. :negative:

quote:

Juggs can solo plat, that will give you a good idea of how they work.

Yeah, the only thing that can kill me as a juggernaut besides something like everything on the map shooting it at once is a bunch of scions since the hex shield blocks nothing they do or a praetorian that stunlocks me. I always switch to it after a while of getting squished on my weaker dudes then using a medigel and instantly dying because a banshee was behind me but just offscreen from where the camera was looking and just put its fist through me. Again. Last night didn't go well.

quote:

Go all damage protection siege pulse, weapon damage and health bonuses, and whatever your fancy for the hex shield. Your gonna get swarmed alot so go for a gun that's good for crowd control. The Reegar is the obvious choice but if you dont have it or its too low level I'd recommend the Piranha or AT-12 Raider.

I like using the wraith and getting headshots on the guys I'm shield draining. That and the phalanx keeps me light enough to plop down turrets and shields all the time. The shield in particular with the "put a DOT on anything that walks into it" perk, to soften up guys around me and stun them.

RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Aug 6, 2014

Felinoid
Mar 8, 2009

Marginally better than Shepard's dancing. 2/10
Man I love sticking a Piranha with a smart choke on a class with accuracy bonuses. I swear people must think I'm hacking, headshotting things from range with that thing. :laugh:

zxqv8
Oct 21, 2010

Did somebody call about a Ravager problem?
I've said it before, but I think the Crusader is one of the best weapons for the Juggernaut.

I like to have mine be tanked up and drop drill rounds on top of a Crusader with both piercing mods. Add geth scanner, remove heads to taste. :black101:

Javelin also works for this, but it's a lot more challenging to perform.

My Q-Face
Jul 8, 2002

A dumb racist who need to kill themselves
I always have a pause/stagger when using Melee with my Juggernaut, is there some way around that, because bosses seem to sit there wailing on me without being staggered until my Melee pauses, usually when they have just one or two bars of armor left, and tend to knock down my shields and health rapidly in the time it takes me to re-melee them.

Also, had an interesting Plat run today. One guy had a Harrier, but it seemed to shoot missiles constantly and he never ran out. Like he ended up with six different groups of missile kills per wave, for all 11 waves. (And then an Abomination exploded in the LZ at :01 :argh: ) Gimmick equipment? Hack?

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester

My Q-Face posted:

I always have a pause/stagger when using Melee with my Juggernaut, is there some way around that, because bosses seem to sit there wailing on me without being staggered until my Melee pauses, usually when they have just one or two bars of armor left, and tend to knock down my shields and health rapidly in the time it takes me to re-melee them.

Yeah, the heavy melee only lasts so long, which conveniently ends up usually right where you mentioned it (two bars of armor left). I tend to use that time to shoot; it works really well with the Reegar because you'll shoot all the ammo, start to reload, and when you trigger the next heavy melee it should work like a reload cancel and you'll be reloaded for the next one.

quote:

Also, had an interesting Plat run today. One guy had a Harrier, but it seemed to shoot missiles constantly and he never ran out. Like he ended up with six different groups of missile kills per wave, for all 11 waves. (And then an Abomination exploded in the LZ at :01 :argh: ) Gimmick equipment? Hack?

Sounds like a hacked game. Though I've never seen one where guns shoot missiles -- it seems more common just to make the guns instant kills.

sudonim
Oct 6, 2005

Leif. posted:

Sounds like a hacked game. Though I've never seen one where guns shoot missiles -- it seems more common just to make the guns instant kills.
I think the "gun shoots missles" thing is a bug rather than a hack. I saw someone do it with an Adas on a PS3, which would be waaaaay harder to hack.

That said, I have no idea how to do it.

EDIT:
First hit on google has a good write-up
http://girlplaysgame.com/2013/04/01/mass-effect-3-missile-glitch-confirmed-working-after-reckoning-dlc/

sudonim fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Aug 7, 2014

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

My Q-Face posted:

I always have a pause/stagger when using Melee with my Juggernaut, is there some way around that, because bosses seem to sit there wailing on me without being staggered until my Melee pauses, usually when they have just one or two bars of armor left, and tend to knock down my shields and health rapidly in the time it takes me to re-melee them.

Also, had an interesting Plat run today. One guy had a Harrier, but it seemed to shoot missiles constantly and he never ran out. Like he ended up with six different groups of missile kills per wave, for all 11 waves. (And then an Abomination exploded in the LZ at :01 :argh: ) Gimmick equipment? Hack?
Covered, but it's a glitch (missile glitching). You used to be able to report those people but I don't think anyone is monitoring the email anymore. Usually I'll just finish the round and find a new lobby (or boot the person if I'm hosting). I've also been known to drop if hosting and it's an early round, if you're lucky they'll get stuck with host and be hosed :haw: Otherwise if it doesn't bother you take the easy credits and XP.

coke zero mit mayo
Nov 5, 2008
So I'm maxed out on rare stuff and really need cyclonic modulators III/IV, SMG rail amps III/IV. What's the best pack to buy? I would assume premium spectres. Is that right? I don't really care for ultra rare's since I have all the weapons I want at reasonable level already.

coke zero mit mayo fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Aug 7, 2014

Smol
Jun 1, 2011

Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus.

Nezzar posted:

So I'm maxed out on rare stuff and really need cyclonic modulators III/IV, SMG rail amps III/IV. What's the best pack to buy? I would assume premium spectres. Is that right? I don't really care for ultra rare's since I have all the weapons I want at reasonable level already.

Spectre packs for level 3 stuff, Arsenal packs for level 4 stuff (they don't drop character cards in the last 3 slots, so they're slightly better than the other 99k packs when it comes to equipment).

Smol fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Aug 7, 2014

Literal Hamster
Mar 11, 2012

YOSPOS
I haven't played multiplayer since around release. Is the game still supported/has people playing it?

mania
Sep 9, 2004

Daysvala posted:

I haven't played multiplayer since around release. Is the game still supported/has people playing it?

Not supported, yes people are still playing. Make sure you download all the dlc (5 in total) or you're not going to have a lot of people to play with.

coke zero mit mayo
Nov 5, 2008

Smol posted:

Spectre packs for level 3 stuff, Arsenal packs for level 4 stuff (they don't drop character cards in the last 3 slots, so they're slightly better than the other 99k packs when it comes to equipment).

I have all characters maxed with colors and whatever. Does that mean that reserve and arsenal packs are the same in terms of drop rates for level 4 consumables?

quote:

I haven't played multiplayer since around release. Is the game still supported/has people playing it?
People are absolute still playing this. I never have problems with finding a lobby in less than 2 minutes.

coke zero mit mayo fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Aug 7, 2014

El Mido
Feb 22, 2011
You might still get character cards for the generic human characters that serve as a big chunk of xp if you don't buy arsenal packs iirc.

coke zero mit mayo
Nov 5, 2008
Alright, it's really weird that they'd put THAT in one of the most expensive packs.

I just bought arsenal packs for 3 million credits. 5 ultra-rares in there which I don't really want or need. Whole lotta cyclonic modulators, too. So, yay, I guess.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester

Nezzar posted:

People are absolute still playing this. I never have problems with finding a lobby in less than 2 minutes.

Something that worked for me that may not be obvious to new players on PC: If you don't get a lobby within 30-45 seconds, cancel out and launch the search again. Maybe it's just my internet being weird, but if I don't get anything in the first 30 seconds or so, it doesn't matter how long I wait, it won't connect. It's not that the games aren't there, it's just not connecting properly. By canceling out and relaunching, it may sometimes take 3 or 4 tries, but I'm guaranteed to get into a lobby.

tribbledirigible
Jul 27, 2004
I finally beat the internet. The end boss was hard.

Leif. posted:

Something that worked for me that may not be obvious to new players on PC: If you don't get a lobby within 30-45 seconds, cancel out and launch the search again. Maybe it's just my internet being weird, but if I don't get anything in the first 30 seconds or so, it doesn't matter how long I wait, it won't connect. It's not that the games aren't there, it's just not connecting properly. By canceling out and relaunching, it may sometimes take 3 or 4 tries, but I'm guaranteed to get into a lobby.

This works on the 360 too.

Nezzar posted:

Alright, it's really weird that they'd put THAT in one of the most expensive packs.

I just bought arsenal packs for 3 million credits. 5 ultra-rares in there which I don't really want or need. Whole lotta cyclonic modulators, too. So, yay, I guess.


Post them anyway, getting pointers here may lead to a favorite new, even if it is suboptimal, gun.

El Mido
Feb 22, 2011
I for one would love to know how to make the Valkyrie fun to use because even at X it's kinda lame.

JackMackerel
Jun 15, 2011

El Mido posted:

I for one would love to know how to make the Valkyrie fun to use because even at X it's kinda lame.

Don't use burst/select fire rifles, for one. :v: Seriously, though, I'm not sure if they've nerfed it, but it does more damage at close range, and there's the usual option of pairing it with a class that deals headshot damage.

Smol
Jun 1, 2011

Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus.

El Mido posted:

I for one would love to know how to make the Valkyrie fun to use because even at X it's kinda lame.

Decent if you're using scope, dmg, AP IV & slap it on a Turian. Good on a Ghost.

El Mido
Feb 22, 2011
I take it that the scope reduces the spread of the burst? Does that only apply while scoped?

Smol
Jun 1, 2011

Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus.

El Mido posted:

I take it that the scope reduces the spread of the burst? Does that only apply while scoped?

Yes and yes

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Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax
Yeah people are still playing. I tried to find a random pub game yesterday, didn't get connected within 3 minutes so I started my own and clicked "Go!". Halfway through wave 1 I had three new teammates. And pretty good ones too.

Also, despite playing thousands of games at this point, I have never played a Juggernaut or most of the Krogans. Am I weird?

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