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OMFG FURRY: Jul 10, 2006; [snarky comment]

redshirt posted:

Isn't beaching usually a consequence of some sickness with the whale? Or just stupidity?

high tides is one theory, another is a bad storm, but it's been happening for a couple centuries that we can almost rule out humans causing it with sonar or ships

# ? Aug 8, 2014 22:26

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Zzulu: May 15, 2009; (â°ËvËâ°)

can you imagine all the accumulated ghosts over the last 50.000 years of humanity? so many ghosts

# ? Aug 8, 2014 22:27

Prettz: Sep 3, 2002

redshirt posted:

Tangentally, is the lady in your AV getting it from behind in that picture? If not, what is going on there?

she's getting it from a cactus, actually

# ? Aug 8, 2014 22:27

Frostwerks: Sep 24, 2007; by Lowtax

redshirt posted:

Isn't beaching usually a consequence of some sickness with the whale? Or just stupidity?

idk, go ask your mother :smug:

# ? Aug 8, 2014 22:31

treasured8elief: Jul 25, 2011; Salad Prong

Zzulu posted:

can you imagine all the accumulated ghosts over the last 50.000 years of humanity? so many ghosts

spooky

# ? Aug 8, 2014 22:37

Zzulu: May 15, 2009; (â°ËvËâ°)

soon our ghosts will be added to their numbers

in the end, we will all be ghost

# ? Aug 8, 2014 22:40

Explosive Tampons: Jul 9, 2014; Your days are gone!!!

redshirt posted:

Tangentally, is the lady in your AV getting it from behind in that picture? If not, what is going on there?

It is a woman "sitting" on a cactus while on top of an alluminium ladder. A true manifestation of the human race's superior intelligence.

# ? Aug 8, 2014 22:54

SirEvelynTremble: Dec 25, 2013; FUCK YOU HITLER
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Japanese Phone Box posted:

It is a woman "sitting" on a cactus while on top of an alluminium ladder. A true manifestation of the human race's superior intelligence.

and i'm not sure if she's enjoying the situation

# ? Aug 8, 2014 23:00

bigzak: Aug 15, 2003

Neat thread. I might get that book you're chiming on about

# ? Aug 8, 2014 23:04

Panamaniac: Jun 18, 2007; HEROES NEVER DIE

Zzulu posted:

can you imagine all the accumulated ghosts over the last 50.000 years of humanity? so many ghosts

With how many ghosts there are, do you ever try to think about how many of them are in your butt at any given time?

# ? Aug 8, 2014 23:55

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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Lawman 0 posted:

don't read that book though it sucks

agreed we need to kill all xenos before they kill us

# ? Aug 9, 2014 00:33

redshirt: Aug 11, 2007

bigzak posted:

Neat thread. I might get that book you're chiming on about

If you like maps and history you'll love it.

# ? Aug 9, 2014 00:55

Lawman 0: Aug 17, 2010

Fojar38 posted:

agreed we need to kill all xenos before they kill us

purge the heretic imo

# ? Aug 9, 2014 00:56

redshirt: Aug 11, 2007

Now we get down to the nitty gritty:

I'm super impressed by Iranian culture surviving and thriving for 6000 years. Conquerors came and went, empires rose and fell, and through it all the Iranians persisted. They even kinda kept a version of Zoroaster going.

# ? Aug 9, 2014 00:58

America Inc.: Nov 22, 2013; I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.

nomadologique posted:

I think it's an open question whether animals are making art in the wild. Whether or not elephants learn art from humans doesn't change their artistic capacity.

I think humans are differentiated from other animals, and the evidence is all around us. But what exactly differentiates us is incredibly complex and as yet poorly articulated. This involves but is not reducible to our biological differentiation as a more or less stable and individuated species. I think any thorough articulation would involve art, but it's not as simple as "art is uniquely human," which is demonstrably false. I think it would require exploration of the variety of human relationships to art, like how much art we make, why we make art and what we use it for, what we think about our art, etc.

In my gay opinion, we can think of animal brains in general as machines which categorize differences, or information, and that coordinate sensory information with preprogrammed physical responses (eg. fight-or-flight, Imprinting, sex). But non-human animals do not have the ability to think of objects in anything other than concrete terms, where information is bound to physical objects. A hawk is a hawk, a mate a mate, and nothing else. There is no room for metaphor or insight. Humans have the ability to separate the information contained in a physical object from the object itself and communicate information with symbols alone, which we would call abstraction. Language, math, music, and art are some of these abstractions. Notice how many early languages used pictographs. drawing a picture of a horse to represent a horse, gradually moving to further and further levels of abstraction until I can write "horse" and instantly convey a picture of a particular four-legged animal that neighs despite "horse" having no real connection to horses whatsoever. By being able to divorce meaning from physical objects, we can then make generalizations and make novel associations between objects which otherwise might seem completely unrelated, leading to technology, logic, and civilization.

America Inc. fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Aug 9, 2014

# ? Aug 9, 2014 01:59

redshirt: Aug 11, 2007

Negative Entropy posted:

In my gay opinion, we can think of animal brains in general as machines which categorize differences, or information, and that coordinate sensory information with preprogrammed physical responses (eg. fight-or-flight, Imprinting, sex). But non-human animals do not have the ability to think of objects in anything other than concrete terms, where information is bound to physical objects. A hawk is a hawk, a mate a mate, and nothing else. There is no room for metaphor or insight. Humans have the ability to separate the information contained in a physical object from the object itself and communicate information with symbols alone, which we would call abstraction. Language, math, music, and art are some of these abstractions. Notice how many early languages used pictographs. drawing a picture of a horse to represent a horse, gradually moving to further and further levels of abstraction until I can write "horse" and instantly convey a picture of a particular four-legged animal that neighs despite "horse" having no real connection to horses whatsoever. By being able to divorce meaning from physical objects, we can then make generalizations and make novel associations between objects which otherwise might seem completely unrelated, leading to technology, logic, and civilization.

# ? Aug 9, 2014 03:52

redshirt: Aug 11, 2007

Seriously though, you're all gay.

# ? Aug 9, 2014 08:50

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Oberst: May 24, 2010; Fertilizing threads since 2010

Zzulu posted:

can you imagine all the accumulated ghosts over the last 50.000 years of humanity? so many ghosts

Oh god now I'm afraid of homo habilis ghosts

# ? Aug 9, 2014 08:59

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