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2% of the human population vanished into thin air and you can still walk into a store and buy Lucky Charms, get your dry cleaning done and travel to NYC and stay in a hotel. All things considered I would say society is still churning along remarkably well.
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While I'm really enjoying the characters we've seen so far, I really hope that the season finale is decisive and the last time we focus on any of these characters for the time being. I'd love it if Season 2 picked up with new characters in the same universe. Sort of like True Detective, but with the possibility of the characters we know popping up again elsewhere.
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savinhill posted:Yeah there was also Nora saying that her family wouldn't exist as far as the mayor's concerned during the interview.  forgot that bit
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Aug 25, 2014 22:06
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So now we know Lindelof believes that life begins at conception
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Puppy Galaxy posted:So now we know Lindelof believes that life begins at conception yessss lets get into a 20 page abortion argument 
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:yessss lets get into a 20 page abortion argument i guess that could literally happen considering the couple previous pages i just read, but to be clear, this is not my intent. Anyway in a post-Lost world this show is just going to piss all former Lost viewers off because it's all unanswerable questions that fans will clamour to be answered until they're answered in the most unimaginative way possible. Calling it now: they're in purgatory But there's decent acting and good production and no obligation to dole poo poo out over 22 episodes a year, so I'll probably keep watching and complaining. As stand-alone episodes of a television show everything was decent other than last week's shirts-in-the-woods reveal
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Puppy Galaxy posted:So now we know Lindelof believes that life begins at conception The heart generally starts beating at six weeks, but she looked a bit further along than that. So no, not at conception. EDIT: You can't even get a good abdominal scan until around 10 weeks. So she is probably at almost three months.
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Darth Ballz posted:The heart generally starts beating at six weeks, but she looked a bit further along than that. So no, not at conception. Think it says how far along she is on the ultrasound screen.
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Puppy Galaxy posted:So now we know Lindelof believes that life begins at conception Whatever righteousness that one might feel at such a real world development would be sortof scotched by the fact one is still around to make it. Edit: I'm really curious to see how the more dogmatic faiths dealt with the event.
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Subterfrugal posted:Whatever righteousness that one might feel at such a real world development would be sortof scotched by the fact one is still around to make it. I'm surprised they don't have at least one crazy Christian on the show. Matt doesn't count, he doesn't fit the usual stereotype.
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Aug 26, 2014 00:19
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Just watched last nights episode. Goddamn that was some nice backfill on the characters. Sorry I don't have anything insightful to add bit that episode kind of crystallized this show as pretty drat good IMO.
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I may have said this before but I'm fine with not knowing what happened with the "rapture". What will piss me off though is if they don't explain the new mysteries. 1. What's up with Wayne? 2. Is Kevin really crazy? 3. Is the other Kevin crazy? 4. Whats up with the dogs and deers?
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bryn987 posted:I may have said this before but I'm fine with not knowing what happened with the "rapture". What will piss me off though is if they don't explain the new mysteries. Of these questions, only the first one is an actual mystery. There's enough ambiguity about whether or not he's genuine, what his long term plans are, and just how wide spread his influence is to make him a genuine question. I'd be fine with them deferring answering it, though. They have to save something for the second season, after all. Yes, Kevin is crazy. He has hallucinations. He blacks out and attacks other people. There is an "other Kevin." These are not facets of a sane person's personality. The dogs and deer are symbolism, and while there is enough wriggle room for different interpretations of these symbols, there is also enough material to make logical inferences from the existing material. The deer represents Kevin. The dogs represent the Guilty Remnant. Meinberg fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Aug 26, 2014 |
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The only thing I really didn't care for too much with this episode was the women in the car asking Kevin, "Are you ready?" That leaves you thinking that's a hook that will later be built upon but you know they're never going to go back to it. Pretty sure it will only add irritation in the long run and not anything else. Otherwise this was a super duper episode, just about the best flashback story I can remember seeing. e: Meinberg posted:Yes, Kevin is crazy. He has hallucinations. He blacks out and attacks other people. There is an "other Kevin." These are facets of a sane person's personality. Forgive me for not trusting Lindelof to take Kevin's insanity at face value. It really burned me when Patti killed herself, I think to give Crazy Kevin plausible deniability. It's aggravating because I saw it coming the moment they showed her tied up and with Imaginary Friend going all "Well you're in a some sticky poo poo now good buddy!" Flesh Forge fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Aug 26, 2014 |
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Loved this episode. I thought from a visuals perspective, it was tasteful to still not actually show what the departure-ing looked like. Otherwise we would have seen Kevin hurriedly patting down his wang and sighing in relief before searching the sheets for his illicit partner.
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Matt's wife....... When I saw her walking around at the party I recognized her face but couldn't place the character..... Because she was walking around. Then it hit me. Awesome episode.
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Aug 26, 2014 02:52
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There were a lot of great little details in this episode. One of the subtle things I noticed was Jill's science project was on entropy, which could describe the entire show.
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Aug 26, 2014 02:57
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life is killing me posted:Think it says how far along she is on the ultrasound screen. It said 11 weeks but that baby looked older.
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Aug 26, 2014 02:58
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Maybe they got an older fetus to play the role, like with the 25 year old playing Aimee.
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Flesh Forge posted:The only thing I really didn't care for too much with this episode was the women in the car asking Kevin, "Are you ready?" That leaves you thinking that's a hook that will later be built upon but you know they're never going to go back to it. Pretty sure it will only add irritation in the long run and not anything else. Otherwise this was a super duper episode, just about the best flashback story I can remember seeing. This show has been pretty deliberate with its breadcrumbs so I really don't see them not coming back to that scene at some point.
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Tomahawk posted:This show has been pretty deliberate with its breadcrumbs so I really don't see them not coming back to that scene at some point. Yeah, it really looks like the show's presenting us with the idea that some people knew what was coming to varying degrees. I can't imagine them dropping that idea.
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Last Chance posted:Yeah, it really looks like the show's presenting us with the idea that some people knew what was coming to varying degrees. I can't imagine them dropping that idea. Maybe it will be this show's outrigger shooting.
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Aug 26, 2014 03:26
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Aug 26, 2014 03:40
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Who was Michael, Tommy's bio-dad? He looked familiar but I can't remember what he's done in previous episodes.
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Last Chance posted:Yeah, it really looks like the show's presenting us with the idea that some people knew what was coming to varying degrees. I can't imagine them dropping that idea. There's no time left this season at least, and I'm not sure there are any plans for a second season. In any case I genuinely hope they DON'T go back to it because that opens the whole can of worms of the audience expecting resolution of the rapture/not-rapture mysteries. Kevyn posted:What was the deal with the exploding manhole? signs and portents
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Flesh Forge posted:There's no time left this season at least, and I'm not sure there are any plans for a second season. In any case I genuinely hope they DON'T go back to it because that opens the whole can of worms of the audience expecting resolution of the rapture/not-rapture mysteries. They announced on the 13th it was renewed. http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/the-leftovers-renewed-for-season-2-at-hbo-1201282061/
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Huh, okay. It looks like they're going to cover everything they're trying to adapt from the book by the end of this season, so future episodes will be totally new. I have no idea what they'll do with subsequent seasons but oh god I hope the plotters/writers do.
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Kevyn posted:What was the deal with the exploding manhole? You mean The Hatch?
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fullroundaction posted:You mean The Hatch? Yeah, I can't tell if the manhole thing was actually important or if that was a just some sort of nod to blowing the door off the hatch and discovering Dharma (after we met creepy car people, possibly this show's Dharma?)
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Aug 26, 2014 04:41
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Tagichatn posted:Who was Michael, Tommy's bio-dad? He looked familiar but I can't remember what he's done in previous episodes. Nothing in previous episodes, but that's Scott Winters, 'Cyril O'Reilly' from Oz.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Nothing in previous episodes, but that's Scott Winters, 'Cyril O'Reilly' from Oz. He showed up previously in a picture of pregnant Laurie.
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Kevyn posted:Maybe they got an older fetus to play the role I'll have to read up on SAG rules but this is probably a thing that happens all the time. Often shows will hire fetus twins to get around labour laws, etc.
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bryn987 posted:4. Whats up with the dogs and deers? I thought this might be relevant, seeing how to this show makes heavy use of religious symbolism. (Not sure if it's been mentioned yet; I did check but I might have missed it.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Eustace quote:According to legend, prior to his conversion to Christianity, Eustace was a Roman general named Placidus, who served the emperor Trajan. While hunting a stag in Tivoli near Rome, Placidus saw a vision of a crucifix lodged between the stag's antlers. He was immediately converted, had himself and his family baptized, and changed his name to Eustace (Greek: Ευστάθιος (Eustáthios), "well stable", or Ευστάχιος (Eustáchios), "fruitful/rich grain"). This painting is in the Canterbury Cathedral: 
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On thing I thought was oddly really satisfying was the mylar balloon that had been stuck on the deer's antlers, implying that - before the disappearances anyway - there were rational explanations for everything, but not after.
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hollylolly posted:He showed up previously in a picture of pregnant Laurie. Ah, must've missed that.
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ehh, I think I'm pretty much done with People Being Sad While Sad Music Plays: The TV Series. I'll probably watch the finale, but everything points towards the second series having even more of the things I find annoying about it. Oh well.
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Kevyn posted:What was the deal with the exploding manhole? MacBeth reference maybe? Garvey as MacBeth meets three witches out in the wilderness and they impart to future to him. Exploding manhole as cauldron, it's a stretch but that's what immediately crept to mind when I saw that scene.
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It's clearly a reference to the idea of transcendental idealism in neo-kantian thought, as described in the seminal work of Friedrich Albert Lange Geschichte des Materialismus. I mean c'mon, it's like you're not even trying.
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LmaoTheKid posted:Just watched last nights episode. Goddamn that was some nice backfill on the characters. Sorry I don't have anything insightful to add bit that episode kind of crystallized this show as pretty drat good IMO. I think this last episode was probably my favorite, because it showed how different the characters were before the Departure; it really drove the point of how much that event changed everybody. It even changed by opinion on Laurie, from thinking that she was a horrible person for abandoning her family to having sympathy for her and understanding what drove her. Really, loosing your baby like that? Geesh...
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grate deceiver posted:It's clearly a reference to the idea of transcendental idealism in neo-kantian thought, as described in the seminal work of Friedrich Albert Lange Geschichte des Materialismus. I mean c'mon, it's like you're not even trying. I almost thought that too but couldn't square that with how the car was clearly full of Jungians.
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