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Billy the Mountain posted:No, I'm still here. welp
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Aug 30, 2014 03:18
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 This can only end well.
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Aug 30, 2014 03:20
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That seems like the worst possible choice to have made...
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Aug 30, 2014 03:50
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Billy the Mountain posted:No, I'm still here. ...... Wow, why the hell not? Whistle blow that poo poo asap.
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Aug 30, 2014 03:51
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Billy the Mountain posted:No, I'm still here. 
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Aug 30, 2014 04:23
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Billy the Mountain posted:No, I'm still here. fyi you should be taking this time to update your resume
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Aug 30, 2014 04:25
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If the firm never needs to access any of that stuff, it won't be a problem. It could happen!
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Aug 30, 2014 07:09
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Gunjin posted:gently caress connectors without screws.It may take a few more seconds to tighten down screws, but then I don't have clients coming to me with intermittent mystery issues from cables that are ever so slightly not fully engaged. Even with screws you can have these mystery issues, they had very flexible monitor stands at the public computers of my last job and people always twisted and turned them so much the cable would eventually become disengaged. I never got the other librarians to reach behind the monitor and check the cable before they deemed the computer broken and put on an out of order sign. 
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Aug 30, 2014 07:52
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Billy the Mountain posted:No, I'm still here. Ah, the Ostrich approach to tech support. 
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Aug 30, 2014 12:07
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Hm, yes, I'm sure they will prefer to find out when they NEED the backup, rather than now. They're sure to be on your side then!
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Aug 30, 2014 14:33
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Billy the Mountain posted:No, I'm still here. That's bad. Really bad.
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Aug 30, 2014 14:40
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Make sure CYA efforts are in full swing.
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Aug 30, 2014 14:44
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If there isn't an actual disaster recovery event going on right now, this isn't even that difficult of a thing to tell your client about. "welp looks like a backup is hosed, we have better, stronger backups but that one is gone lol"
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Aug 30, 2014 14:48
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EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:If there isn't an actual disaster recovery event going on right now, this isn't even that difficult of a thing to tell your client about. Unless these are archives, intentional or not. How many requests are there a month for "trying to find a file, I know I had it in May of 2011."
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Aug 30, 2014 15:15
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EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:If there isn't an actual disaster recovery event going on right now, this isn't even that difficult of a thing to tell your client about. Two things. One, I don't think they do have better backups -- wasn't this all of the backups? Two, it's a law firm. They are probably legally required to keep records for a specified amount of time.
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Aug 30, 2014 15:18
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guppy posted:Two things. One, I don't think they do have better backups -- wasn't this all of the backups? Two, it's a law firm. They are probably legally required to keep records for a specified amount of time. Yeah, this. There's probably a massive liability issue here.
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Aug 30, 2014 15:23
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Was this the issue with some storage company taking ownership of/deleting your data once you cancelled a contract? Maybe they still have it. Or blame them 
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Aug 30, 2014 15:42
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Roargasm posted:Maybe they still have it. And blame you Fixed.
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Aug 30, 2014 16:00
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Billy the Mountain posted:No, I'm still here. I figured that situation was going to get worse, but not for THAT reason. 
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Aug 30, 2014 16:05
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Billy the Mountain posted:No, I'm still here. what is malpractice
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Aug 30, 2014 17:19
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how is lawsuit formed
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Aug 30, 2014 17:24
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they need to do way instain bckup software> who kill their bckups. becuse these bckups cant frigth back?
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Aug 30, 2014 17:29
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:w-hat:
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Aug 30, 2014 17:34
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i am truley sorry for your lots
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Aug 30, 2014 17:50
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So do you think that this law firm is going to sue Billy's employer directly, or will they hire a third party to sue them into dust?
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Aug 30, 2014 18:36
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All depends on what the focus of the law firm is, tbh.
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Aug 30, 2014 18:41
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The decision to tell the client or not was made way above my head, and for me to blow the whistle would result in my immediate termination. I got one kid with a second on the way, and I know for a fact I will not find another job doing what I do and making what I make. But yeah. It is the "Hope they don't ask for backups older than a month. We racked and fired up a Datto the day the Zenith BDR got pulled, so they do have backups, just not going back more than a month. Since this law firm is used to keeping everything and never deleting anything, most of our restores for them are usually the "restore something accidentally deleted within the last day" variety. I don't agree with the decision, it is unethical, immoral, and short sighted. Everything I did is documented to hell and back, and my team lead witnessed what I did and has my back 110%.
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Aug 30, 2014 19:05
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You better hope no one gets fired and then is pissed off enough to blow the whistle.
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Aug 30, 2014 19:17
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Anonymous email?
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Aug 30, 2014 19:23
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Billy the Mountain posted:The decision to tell the client or not was made way above my head, and for me to blow the whistle would result in my immediate termination. I got one kid with a second on the way, and I know for a fact I will not find another job doing what I do and making what I make. You are looking for a new job, right? Because they will find out and when they do your employer is very hosed.
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Aug 30, 2014 19:24
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Also, make sure you have a cover your rear end folder of documentation and a write up of your point of view backed up to a couple places. I assume you've done most if this, but it doesn't hurt to have a contemporaneous journal of poo poo as it goes down, instead of having to go off of memory when it all blows up.
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Aug 30, 2014 19:29
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And stop talking about this on the Internet!
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Aug 30, 2014 20:46
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Billy the Mountain posted:The decision to tell the client or not was made way above my head, and for me to blow the whistle would result in my immediate termination. I got one kid with a second on the way, and I know for a fact I will not find another job doing what I do and making what I make. Imagine that I posted some kind of 'holy poo poo' macro or gif here. Because, just wow.
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Aug 30, 2014 21:16
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jim truds posted:You are looking for a new job, right? Because they will find out and when they do your employer is very hosed. He made his bed let him sleep in it
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Aug 30, 2014 22:29
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Billy the Mountain posted:The decision to tell the client or not was made way above my head, and for me to blow the whistle would result in my immediate termination. I got one kid with a second on the way, and I know for a fact I will not find another job doing what I do and making what I make. Like gently caress there's no SOX control related to this. Especially if you're working for a public corporation. What a slimy loving company why aren't you looking for a new job yesterday and blow the loving whistle, hard.
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Aug 30, 2014 23:10
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I don't really know what situation Billy the Mountain is in, but it's not always that simple to throw a job in and get another one. I'm sure if it was then  would have occurred before this point.Yes it sucks, but what sucks more is not having that income.
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Aug 30, 2014 23:13
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Thanks Ants posted:I don't really know what situation Billy the Mountain is in, but it's not always that simple to throw a job in and get another one. I'm sure if it was then There weren't any posts that said quit on the spot or get yourself fired, but to be complacent in this is not only going to be a bad decision for your career, but also one for your mental health.
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Aug 30, 2014 23:18
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Billy the Mountain posted:The decision to tell the client or not was made way above my head, and for me to blow the whistle would result in my immediate termination. I got one kid with a second on the way, and I know for a fact I will not find another job doing what I do and making what I make. If your company was handling backups, couldn't they theoretically have original data somewhere at their facility that you could then re-backup? At least going back some amount of time. I have no idea how law firms work, I'm picturing giant boxes of old papers scanned and then shredded because HEY WE HAVE BACKUPS. But that only helps if you, you know, loving tell them their backups are gone. No seriously, start poking around for new jobs.
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Aug 30, 2014 23:23
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Even with a CYA paper trail if you wilfully hide something you can still do jail time when it involves legal matters depending on context. At the minimum you should be consulting a good lawyer about your liability while spending every waking moment looking for a new job. No way in hell your bosses are going to cover your back when the lawyer-clients turn on them.
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Verizian posted:Even with a CYA paper trail if you wilfully hide something you can still do jail time when it involves legal matters depending on context. At the minimum you should be consulting a good lawyer about your liability while spending every waking moment looking for a new job. No way in hell your bosses are going to cover your back when the lawyer-clients turn on them. This is the dumbest thing to be said in this thread in a long time. Joe blow IT guy is not going to face jailtime in this situation and its incredibly dumb to say otherwise. Jesus Christ, some of you sensationalize poo poo so much its embarrassing.
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