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Bicyclops posted:When you think about it, do you really need the scarf? You'll never be a great Smash Bros. player with that attitude.
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Twilight Princess has some great minigames. As a game, long winded opening excluded, I think it's more interesting and fun than OOT, although it mostly hits the sane notes as that game.
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Sep 10, 2014 15:15
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mabels big day posted:The spinner thing in the sand dungeon is cool, and kind of fun. How far are you right now? I'm about 5 hours in and haven't reached the first dungeon yet. My current objective is to kill a bunch of bugs and collect their tears.
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Sep 10, 2014 18:15
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Castor Poe posted:I'm about 5 hours in and haven't reached the first dungeon yet. My current objective is to kill a bunch of bugs and collect their tears. Man you're doing it wrong if you are 5 hours in and still collecting the first set of bugs. TP's intro is slow but not that slow. Just ignore any urge to explore since you really can't yet and follow the linear paths until the 3rd dungeon.
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Sep 10, 2014 18:18
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Twilight Princess has great dungeons, but the overworld stuff loving sucks. Keep pushing through it a bit.
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Febreeze posted:Man you're doing it wrong if you are 5 hours in and still collecting the first set of bugs. TP's intro is slow but not that slow Maybe he spent more time in the village to collect rupees and look around and explore. For someone who knows what they're doing, it seems slow, but taking everything in and playing for the first time, 5 hours is perfectly fine.
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Sep 10, 2014 18:19
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Even some of the overworld stuff is okay. Like the controls aren't great, but the bridge joust still owns.
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Sep 10, 2014 18:20
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The first thing you should do after getting out of the village in Twilight Princess is save and quit, then copy your save to another slot. Then, when you're reminded a few years later of how good the dungeons were and decide you want to replay it, that thought won't be followed immediately by "ugh but I'd have to get through that village part first" and playing something else instead
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Sep 10, 2014 18:35
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Suspicious Dish posted:Maybe he spent more time in the village to collect rupees and look around and explore. For someone who knows what they're doing, it seems slow, but taking everything in and playing for the first time, 5 hours is perfectly fine. A real TP pro would have beaten the game in that time
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Sep 10, 2014 18:48
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Only if you beat Morpheel without Zora Armor. And gently caress that.
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Sep 10, 2014 18:50
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mabels big day posted:A real TP pro would have beaten the game in that time Don't get me started on Twilight Princess. I could not for the life of me figure out how to catch a fish at the beginning of the game. I think that's the only time a Zelda game made me rage quit. Stupid motion controls that weren't explained. (My name is Spectacle Rock; I know how to play Zelda!) The first 3 temples in Twilight Princess are great, and the fight on the bridge is great. After that, in my opinion, the rest of the game sucks except for the final boss fight.
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Sep 10, 2014 19:16
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I had some trouble catching the fish the first time too, but admittedly that may have been the surgery drugs.
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Spectacle Rock posted:Don't get me started on Twilight Princess. I could not for the life of me figure out how to catch a fish at the beginning of the game. I think that's the only time a Zelda game made me rage quit. Stupid motion controls that weren't explained. (My name is Spectacle Rock; I know how to play Zelda!)
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Sep 10, 2014 19:31
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You needed a Fish to get the runaway Cat to go home so you could get into the shop so they could do a Slingshot Tutorial for you. You also had to catch a Red Fish to get into the Ice mansion, or to be precise to navigate the area leading to the Ice mansion.
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Sep 10, 2014 19:39
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Bicyclops posted:Even some of the overworld stuff is okay. Like the controls aren't great, but the bridge joust still owns.
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Nihilarian posted:Didn't you have to catch two fish for some reason? I remember doing that and thinking it was dumb. At the beginning of the game you have to catch two fish. The first caught fish makes the cat move closer. The second fish the cat steals from you and then runs home. So, imagine a frustrated me, trying to do twice something that I didn't know how to do. I think I was able to do it once and was all foaming at the mouth I couldn't do it again. And of course the game had JUST launched since I got it at midnight so there was no walkthrough explaining how the fish mechanism worked. I had just gotten my Launch Day Nintendo Wii and stuck on a stupid tutorial in the first town. Not a good way to start my Twilight Princess Experience 
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There are tutorials now, though. Hell you could probably find a video if you wanted to. But yeah the early parts of TP are slow. Nobody working on the game took a step back and said "you know, maybe we shouldn't force people to do chores for the first couple hours of their epic adventure?" That said, it's still better than Skyward Sword's opening.
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Sep 11, 2014 00:54
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Spectacle Rock posted:At the beginning of the game you have to catch two fish. The first caught fish makes the cat move closer. The second fish the cat steals from you and then runs home.
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Sep 11, 2014 01:05
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Oh. Play the Gamecube version of Twilight Princess. It's much better.
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Some more Zelda-related news: -JP Club Nintendo is getting a Link Between Worlds soundtrack! http://club.nintendo.jp/present/P195/index.html -NOE is doing a 3DS promotion that lets you claim a free download game (including Link Between Worlds) if you register a new 3DS/XL/2DS and either Smash 3DS or one of the Pokemon GBA remakes, details here: http://www.nintendo.co.uk/News/2014...ion-917410.html
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Which Oracle game should be played first? edit: Never mind, I went back a few pages in this thread and found the answer. Guy Freeman posted:There is one square of the map in Oracle of Ages that you cannot get to (and therefore will be blank on your map) unless you are playing a linked game. So if that sort of thing bothers you, play Seasons, then Ages. Hell, you should do that anyways, given that Ages is harder and makes for a better overall difficultly curve. Spacebump fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Sep 12, 2014 |
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Spacebump posted:Which Oracle game should be played first? Technically speaking to get all of the rings you have to play through both games twice. 
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Sep 12, 2014 04:29
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Twilight Princess owns and is better than Ocarina of Time. The only disappointing parts are the opening, lack of use for the spinner, and how empty the world feels (and how nobody minds the giant yellow diamond around the castle).
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Sep 12, 2014 04:32
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The canon terminology is "wack rear end crystal prison".
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Sep 12, 2014 05:29
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I'm pretty sure most of the townsfolk even use those exact same words.
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They're demo-ing Hyrule Warriors in the Treehouse stream, if anyone is interested.
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:City in the Sky is also a really great dungeon. The dungeons are really the only good thing about that game. Let's not forget about Rollgoal.
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Big dork milestone for me just now. It took until I was 30, but I finally beat Zelda II about five minutes ago. I had the game for the NES growing up as a kid. For a long time I couldn't get real far, getting the hammer was an achievement, eventually I got to the Grand Palace and was unable to complete it even with the NES Game Atlas. Once -- once -- I managed to beat Thunderbird, and Dark Link murdered me through my remaining lives and I turned it off in frustration. I never played the Grand Palace again. For the last few years, ever since I got the Ambassador version as an apology for overcharging me for a 3DS, I've played through it a bunch of times. I got really good at it, but I always stopped when it was time to go to the Grand Palace, because frankly getting to the Grand Palace is a pain in the rear end, much less going through it. I started playing it again yesterday or the day before, and I thought, you know what? gently caress it, I know this game backwards and forwards by now. I'll push through. Had less trouble than expected getting to the Grand Palace. (Actually wound up doing it a second time, because I forgot a Heart Container and hadn't maxed my stats, so I went back and did that.) It took a few tries, but I beat Thunderbird after a few continues and killed Dark Link with a couple squares of health left, no problem. This is probably my oldest video game kryptonite. It's a small and nerdy thing, but I'm proud of myself.
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I'm working on all the Zeldas, (currently on Spirit Tracks and Skyward Sword) Definitely saving Zelda2 for last.
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guppy posted:Big dork milestone for me just now. It took until I was 30, but I finally beat Zelda II about five minutes ago. You know, to beat Dark Link all you have to do is trigger him to follow you, go left and duck. Then just duck attack. He'll run into your sword over and over until he dies. Should take like 30 seconds to beat him.
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Shadow Link is a gently caress of a lot easier than the giant deathbird you have to fight before him, at the very least.
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Twilight Princess is good, and catching fish is fun. It feels like a retread of Ocarina of Time but a good one. The opening definitely takes to long for me to desire to revisit it, but I enjoyed myself. I wasn't ever going "jesus gently caress this game sucks"
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Austrian mook posted:Twilight Princess is good, and catching fish is fun. It feels like a retread of Ocarina of Time but a good one. The opening definitely takes to long for me to desire to revisit it, but I enjoyed myself. I wasn't ever going "jesus gently caress this game sucks" I really like Twilight Princess but the Wii controls for fishing flat out suck, they really just do.
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Bicyclops posted:I really like Twilight Princess but the Wii controls for fishing flat out suck, they really just do. I wouldn't know, I played the gamecube version
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Hm, I don't remember having any trouble at all with the fish. But I guess Nintendo got me back by bitch slapping me with the sensor controls for Skyward Sword. gently caress that. I quit and never went back after like the third temple. Just no man. No thank you. I do remember one part in TP though, where you have to make the giant statue with the hammer break those barriers in the temple. I did exactly what I was supposed to do, and the hammer just hit it and went "clink" and bounced off. So I figured they were indestructible. I spent probably over an hour stuck behind that barrier hitting everything in sight with the statue's hammer and nothing at all worked. I eventually Googled it and found out I was doing the right thing all along. So I went back and hit it again and it suddenly worked the very first time! I think it knew I caught it being a dick red handed.
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I had no problem with the Skyward Sword motion controls like 90 percent of the time but that fish gave me a world of trouble.
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Bicyclops posted:I had no problem with the Skyward Sword motion controls like 90 percent of the time but that fish gave me a world of trouble. Together we are unstoppable. E: I read an explanation once about why so many people like me had trouble with the Skyward Sword controls. There are parts where you have to swing left or right to defeat certain enemies or complete certain tasks. But a normal human winds to the right before they swing left with a sword or vice versa, so tons of people always went the opposite direction on accident because the wiimote registered that tiny pre-swing wind-up as the swing itself. But none of the players (me included) realized they were doing it, or why Link was always swinging the wrong direction. Space T Rex fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Sep 14, 2014 |
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For me, it's just that the mechanics of my wrist movement confused the Wiimote. I would try to slash on a diagonal, but my movement was I guess closer to a vertical slash or something, so fighting dudes was just really painful for me. I had an easier time making vertical or horizontal slashes in Skyrim, for fucks sake.
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I will admit it took me five to ten minutes of playing like someone's dad who's never picked up a controller to properly adjust to aiming with the gamepad in Windwaker HD, but once I got used to it, it was fine.
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MartianAgitator posted:You know, to beat Dark Link all you have to do is trigger him to follow you, go left and duck. Then just duck attack. He'll run into your sword over and over until he dies. Should take like 30 seconds to beat him. That's *the* ideal strat, but from my personal experiences it's definitely not a 100% guarantee. Dark Link loves trolling. From what I recall, the Famicom Disk System version is even harder, and he's less likely to run into your stabs. Zelda II is just a demoralizing game for casual play in general I feel like.
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