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What I'm saying is fire Zack Ryder and rehire Percy Watson
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Tyson Tomko posted:You could make a similar argument for the Million Dollar Playas or whatever Titus and Daren Young were called. They didn't do NEAR the work Ryder did to get over (because Ryder did 99.9999% of it making random youtube videos in his apartment with his Dad and Big-O) but still got crazy rear end over with the crowd. Titus tapped into a charisma nobody knew he had (remember the "make it a win!" speech haha). The tag division was reborn (for a few months than faded away, imagine that) and every time they on camera or mentioned the camera man would have about a million people to choose from doing the Millions of Dollas dance. like many things from the early part of this year, blame Batista for this
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I really don't see the upside for WWE keeping Ryder on its payroll. It's not like he's gonna bolt to TNA or something and be amazing. If they have no plans for the dude, why keep him around? If they need jobbers, plenty of other people around can fill that roll.
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GAYMIEN SANDOW posted:Prime Time Players god drat dude get it right. I think it was Pancake Patterson and Black Cena actually. MAN that was another thing they could have rolled with for a while, the black Cena gimmick. They teased it here and there but only scratched the surface on the fun potential that could have been.
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To be fair, the Prime Time Players would have won the tag belts ages ago if not for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFgjZ-rI8ZY
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Sep 24, 2014 01:46
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DM Punk posted:I really don't see the upside for WWE keeping Ryder on its payroll. It's not like he's gonna bolt to TNA or something and be amazing. If they have no plans for the dude, why keep him around? If they need jobbers, plenty of other people around can fill that roll. TNA signed Brodus Clay. They will take ANY WWE castoff and push them to the moon.
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tna's dead though
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People were dressing up as Zack in audiences every week. People were constantly spamming WWEShop with inquiries as to when Broski headbands would be available. People were chanting "Woo Woo Woo" and "We Want Zack" during important segments that had nothing to do with him. That's more than you can say of the Bella Twins or Adam Rose or even someone like Randy Orton at times, or any of the other acts they desperately want us to care about without actually desperately trying to get us to on your average 150 minutes of RAW. No matter what you think of his wrestling (and let's be honest, it was never spectacular,) the simple fact of the matter is that he got over, and they responded by squandering it. Outright defying it, making him a crippled cuckold to man audiences have been sick of for years. And you know what? You're right. Why not embrace Percy Watson's OH YEAH!? Why not embrace the Prime Time Players and their MILLIONS OF DOLLARS!? Why not embrace Mark Henry doing that arm lift thing that the whole crowd was doing by the end of that one random episode of RAW? If they had instead embraced it, who knows what could happened. Nobody's saying World Heavyweight Champion here, but I think that's precisely the problem. These days, if you're not a WHC contender, then who cares? That's why we're at a point where they have no plan for Hell in a Cell and have to write RAW as it's airing. Now I've gone and done it again, so while looking for an update on the Jervis/Stoya situation, came across this: 
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OmegaBR posted:Now I've gone and done it again, so while looking for an update on the Jervis/Stoya situation, came across this: Yeah, Jervis aint losing that match.
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Sep 24, 2014 02:09
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So I'm assuming Jervis isn't the same guy returning under the hood and actually a new student? Also is his bowler hat part of his mask?
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Joey Styles live tweeted the Monday Night War episode about ECW. https://twitter.com/JoeyStyles I especially liked:  \
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Rooooooooollerjaaaaaaaaaaaaam
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KungFu Grip posted:So I'm assuming Jervis isn't the same guy returning under the hood and actually a new student? Also is his bowler hat part of his mask? The original Jervis only lasted for three matches in Chikara before getting kicked out for shady backstage stuff (as opposed to the lame and petty backstage stuff Chikara's known for excommunicating people for). Then he returned to England and went back to wrestling as TJ Cain, occasionally returning to the Cottonbelly gimmick. The current Jervis in Chikara is a student, though he's been around since 2012. Sadly, he no longer has the Mr. Belvedere theme when he walks to the ring. And no, the bowler isn't part of his mask.
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Sep 24, 2014 04:10
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RIP Rufus "Pancake" Patterson
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Quick, somebody get Eric Bischoff into prosthetics, stat!
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I want them to change Paige's gimmick to someone who has never had a friend before and literally does not understand what being someone's friend entailed. That would explain all her behavior with AJ, and lead to several other storylines where people mislead and take advantage of her by lying about what it is.
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Sep 24, 2014 14:38
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TheJoker138 posted:I want them to change Paige's gimmick to someone who has never had a friend before and literally does not understand what being someone's friend entailed. That would explain all her behavior with AJ, and lead to several other storylines where people mislead and take advantage of her by lying about what it is. stop projecting
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Sep 24, 2014 14:43
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Yes every female performer in WWE should be on the autism spectrum.
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TheJoker138 posted:I want them to change Paige's gimmick to someone who has never had a friend before and literally does not understand what being someone's friend entailed. That would explain all her behavior with AJ, and lead to several other storylines where people mislead and take advantage of her by lying about what it is. Sting can be her mentor because he totally never had issues with his friends mistreating him.
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oatgan posted:stop projecting 
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Charles Gnarwin posted:Sting can be her mentor because he totally never had issues with his friends mistreating him. Paige in The Crow face paint with a baseball bat is my favorite gimmick now.
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flashy_mcflash posted:Yes every female performer in WWE should be on the autism spectrum. What does the spectrum look like, five million slightly different shades of the same color?
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The Bee posted:Paige in The Crow face paint with a baseball bat is my favorite gimmick now. I never knew I wanted this, but holy poo poo.
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Sep 24, 2014 15:14
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To be honest you can put anyone in the sentence "[x] in The Crow face paint with a baseball bat" and it'll be awesome. ed: okay maybe not Eva Marie ed2: no wait I'd kinda like to see Eva Marie try it just for morbid curiosity.
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pressedbunny posted:To be honest you can put anyone in the sentence "[x] in The Crow face paint with a baseball bat" and it'll be awesome. John Cena
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Sep 24, 2014 16:12
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pressedbunny posted:To be honest you can put anyone in the sentence "[x] in The Crow face paint with a baseball bat" and it'll be awesome. I always wanted Chris Masters in Ultimate Warrior facepaint and I'll never know why.
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Sep 24, 2014 16:20
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I've actually considered before that Sting could conceivably pass on the Crow gimmick to an up and coming wrestler. Have him go all vengeance on a heel Starrcade 97 style and have the heel disappear for a year only to come back as the new Sting This could either work or be terrible but it's such a great gimmick it would suck if it only got one WWE match tops. I've considered them doing something similar for the Undertaker but I don't see the fans embracing it.
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Oh and there also should have been a new Kane about 4 years ago and he should have never been unmasked 
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pressedbunny posted:To be honest you can put anyone in the sentence "[x] in The Crow face paint with a baseball bat" and it'll be awesome. Eva wears enough makeup that it counts as facepaint.
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if you wanted to make sure Eva Marie never wrestles again, turning her into crow sting is a good place to start
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oatgan posted:if you wanted to make sure Eva Marie never wrestles again, turning her into crow sting is a good place to start Yeah, no wrestling or talking, it's the perfect gimmick for her.
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That DICK! posted:I've actually considered before that Sting could conceivably pass on the Crow gimmick to an up and coming wrestler. Have him go all vengeance on a heel Starrcade 97 style So he'd lose clean to them?
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Blasmeister posted:So he'd lose clean to them? Hey man, that poo poo ruled right up until the match started.
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Blasmeister posted:So he'd lose clean to them? Hey, that was a fast count! Bret Hart mumbled so!
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That DICK! posted:Hey man, that poo poo ruled right up until the match started. When a man's heart is full of defeat...
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oatgan posted:if you wanted to make sure Eva Marie never wrestles again, turning her into crow sting is a good place to start She'll gently caress up pointing a bat somehow. God help us if they put her anywhere near the rafters.
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Sep 24, 2014 19:13
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TheJoker138 posted:I want them to change Paige's gimmick to someone who has never had a friend before and literally does not understand what being someone's friend entailed. That would explain all her behavior with AJ, and lead to several other storylines where people mislead and take advantage of her by lying about what it is. Pretty sure this is the GOB storyline from Arrested Development season 4.
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DM Punk posted:I really don't see the upside for WWE keeping Ryder on its payroll. It's not like he's gonna bolt to TNA or something and be amazing. If they have no plans for the dude, why keep him around? If they need jobbers, plenty of other people around can fill that roll.
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Ryder got himself over as a character so I'm not all that surprised that fans didn't respond to his random matches or terrible storylines with Eve and Cena. It goes back to that old Heyman/ECW flaw WWE has. Heyman wasn't a genius and ECW wasn't perfect but Heyman understand that when he had limited talents he should focus on their positives and hide their negatives. WWE doesn't work like that. They want every talent to fit into their set molds and ideas and if you don't that's all she wrote. Ryder should have been cutting weekly promos like his youtube bits and played up the same character while having some stories that mixed in with it. If they wanted to see if Ryder would work on a larger scale they should have let him do what was working on a smaller scale. That wasn't random matches and bad soap stories.
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