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Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Are they going to put Daniel Craig in that crazy outfit?

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Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Bobbin Threadbare posted:

Are they going to put Daniel Craig in that crazy outfit?

Ruffles haven't made it back into fashion yet.




Last post on the previous page posted:

Mission 03: Alpine Valley





Countess Teresa, played by Diana Rigg, was the love interest of James Bond in "On Her Majesty's Secret Service". In the movie, Teresa and Bond cross paths several times which ultimately leads James to meeting with her father Marc-Ange Draco, played by Gabriele Ferzetti. In the film, Bond requires Draco's help to get close to his nemesis, Blofeld :argh:, and in return Bond must marry Teresa to quell her rebellious nature.

While Lazenby isn't my favorite Bond, I really like OHMSS and I think the supporting cast really helps the movie. As for the characters in the game, Teresa looks almost exactly like Diana Rigg but isn't voice by her. I guess she's too busy playing... Lady Olenna Tyrell?! Holy poo poo, that's awesome!

This level, however, is not.

Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Oct 21, 2014

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord

pengun101 posted:

Are you loving making GBS threads me, They could have made fun levels out of the courtroom, the tube, and for fucks sake, Skyfall manor fight is practically a Cod set piece, it could have been fun. If you are going to make a cod clone, then at least aim for giant awesome set piece moments.
If Eurocom had went and made an average/decent Skyfall video game, then yes, that would've been cool. But instead Activision decided they couldn't be bothered to pull something like that (they were only two years late to pull a Casino Royale game out their arses, so why not make a couple of levels based on that film and mix with the levels made for Quantum of Solace and put them into one game? Now everybody's happy), their mindset instead was 'making that GoldenEye remake seemed to do fairly well, if only we made more games based off of other classic Bond films...oh I know, let's just make levels out of the popular moments from those films and put them into one game, it's not like the fans care about more thought-out missions for every movie we cover'.

Despite how poo poo EA is, at least they had the decency to make full games of TND and TWINE while they had their theatrical releases at the time.

Also, seeing as it's been two years since the recent Bond game (007 Legends) came out, chances are we may or may not be expecting another one for some time.

Junior Jr. fucked around with this message at 08:37 on Oct 21, 2014

ScotchDK
Aug 14, 2008

mmmh, smooth...
I think OHMSS have the best Bond music in the series, and one of the grizzliest henchmen deaths of the series. http://youtu.be/rIkwS664Qzw?t=1m8s

Gargamel Gibson
Apr 24, 2014
This is a silly thing to complain about in a lovely Call of Duty clone, but I think it's lame to see spiffy modern guns in levels based on old school Bond movies. Cold War era gats would've been way cooler!

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

OHMSS also makes Teresa about as strong of a female supporting character as 1969 audiences could handle (she even gets the major car chase of the film with Bond as the passenger), which really improves the film compared to others (like A View to a Kill) that have downright useless female leads.

OHMSS also has probably the best ending of any James Bond film purely through how it's shot and presented.

Kadorhal
Jun 3, 2013

Look, just sign the stupid petition. I've got stuff to do.
I take it the level lengths are entirely dependent on how well-known and influential that movie's Bond actor was? :v:

Gargamel Gibson posted:

This is a silly thing to complain about in a lovely Call of Duty clone, but I think it's lame to see spiffy modern guns in levels based on old school Bond movies. Cold War era gats would've been way cooler!

I think I can give an explanation for that.

See, this game is basically everything modern FPS games try to be - that is, a blatant clone of Call of Duty 4. One of the things the legion of CoD clones* are known for is completely ignoring anything done by Treyarch in their games in favor of aping Modern Warfare. Treyarch made the only CoD games set during the Cold War. Ergo, the Cold War is now completely off-limits to the imitators, because it is tainted by association with not-Infinity Ward.


*you remember back when FPSes were Doom clones and they were trying to break away from that moniker after the first couple years?

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
One thing that honestly pissed me off is whenever there's a Bond game, there always had to be the Golden Gun.

Don't get me wrong, of course the Golden Gun is awesome, but how many times does it have to be brought up in every single game?

What pissed me off even more was the rendition of the gun in Quantum of Solace...it looked nothing like it! It just looked like some vintage revolver that happened to have a gold finish, and it shot explosive bullets for some reason.

How can they gently caress up a gun that's just as iconic and memorable as the Walther PPK!?

Sure they learned from that mistake now, but back then, it was insulting.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Speaking of guns, here's the IMFDB page. It identifies all of the weapons used in the game by their real identities. Be warned that the page will have spoilers for future weapons and levels, so read it only if you don't care about that.

quote:

What pissed me off even more was the rendition of the gun in Quantum of Solace...it looked nothing like it! It just looked like some vintage revolver that happened to have a gold finish, and it shot explosive bullets for some reason.

It wasn't even a vintage gun. It was a S&W Model 686 (which is pretty modern) with a gold finish and scope. It would have made more sense if they used a Single Action Army, since Scaramanga actually used a gold-plated SAA in the original novel (and used one in the film in one scene as a reference to it), but they just reskinned a regular gun.

chitoryu12 fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Oct 21, 2014

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Junior Jr. posted:

One thing that honestly pissed me off is whenever there's a Bond game, there always had to be the Golden Gun.

Don't get me wrong, of course the Golden Gun is awesome, but how many times does it have to be brought up in every single game?

I think the "issue" with the Golden Gun was that it has a great backstory to it. It's the gun that kills in one shot, except that (I guess?) people tend to forget that it was Scaramanga who made that gun so deadly. So he only needed one shot, but how do you translate that into a video game weapon? Obviously you make it a one shot, one kill weapon and give it its own game mode in Goldeneye. It becomes super popular and well-known, so of course other developers try to cash in on previous successes.

I honestly don't have a problem with the Golden Gun, I just wish they wouldn't try to convince be that the Golden Gun was anything but a single shot, ergonomic nightmare assembled from a vintage golden cigarette holder.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Jobbo_Fett posted:

I think the "issue" with the Golden Gun was that it has a great backstory to it. It's the gun that kills in one shot, except that (I guess?) people tend to forget that it was Scaramanga who made that gun so deadly. So he only needed one shot, but how do you translate that into a video game weapon? Obviously you make it a one shot, one kill weapon and give it its own game mode in Goldeneye. It becomes super popular and well-known, so of course other developers try to cash in on previous successes.

I honestly don't have a problem with the Golden Gun, I just wish they wouldn't try to convince be that the Golden Gun was anything but a single shot, ergonomic nightmare assembled from a vintage golden cigarette holder.

Well, the gun itself was inordinately powerful; the use of gold-nickel bullets meant that its tiny 4.2mm rounds fired 308 grain bullets (in the same weight range as a .45-70 rifle bullet) and they were dum-dum expanding rounds made from a very soft metal. So the bullet would hit like a freight train despite its size. That said, Scaramanga was so fatal because he was a circus trickshooter and could pop a guy in the forehead from 30 yards away firing one-handed with nothing but a simple front sight post.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

chitoryu12 posted:

That said, Scaramanga was so fatal because he was a circus trickshooter and could pop a guy in the forehead from 30 yards away firing one-handed with nothing but a simple front sight post.

Well, that and he had a cooler car than bond. I mean, it was so retarded just think of all the dorks that burst a blood vessel frothing at the mouth over it.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

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FoolyCharged posted:

Well, that and he had a cooler car than bond. I mean, it was so retarded just think of all the dorks that burst a blood vessel frothing at the mouth over it.

Every time i see JW Pepper, i need all my willpower to stop me from snapping the disc in two. Scaramangas car is cool.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
As cool as Scaramanga's car was, it boggles my mind how on earth can that plane frame even support that car's weight, and how much more when Scaramanga, Nick Nack, and Goodnight are added to that.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Junior Jr. posted:

As cool as Scaramanga's car was, it boggles my mind how on earth can that plane frame even support that car's weight, and how much more when Scaramanga, Nick Nack, and Goodnight are added to that.

To be fair, nick nack and goodnight combined weighed less than scaramanga. And he probably used it all the time with that other girl i cant remember.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Every time i see JW Pepper, i need all my willpower to stop me from snapping the disc in two. Scaramangas car is cool.

My client is an Alabama redneck who married into wealth from a blue collar background and is the quintessential racist, sexist, homophobic Baby Boomer. Talking to him is literally exactly like talking to a senior citizen J.W. Pepper right down to the speech patterns.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Every time i see JW Pepper, i need all my willpower to stop me from snapping the disc in two. Scaramangas car is cool.

:clint: Look fellah, we all know wut makes people wanna snap their MWTGG dvds in two, an' it sure ain't just Sheriff J. W. Pepper.
*Slide-whistle*

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Pesky Splinter posted:

:clint: Look fellah, we all know wut makes people wanna snap their MWTGG dvds in two, an' it sure ain't just Sheriff J. W. Pepper.
*Slide-whistle*

That sound effect was amazing and you should be sad for disliking it. :colbert:

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

FoolyCharged posted:

That sound effect was amazing and you should be sad for disliking it. :colbert:

Campy silly Bond stuff is fine. Campy silly stuff that ruins that stunt, is not :colbert:

Atomikus
Jun 4, 2010

Muncie? Muncie! MUNCIE!

Junior Jr. posted:

As cool as Scaramanga's car was, it boggles my mind how on earth can that plane frame even support that car's weight, and how much more when Scaramanga, Nick Nack, and Goodnight are added to that.

Since the car it was based on had its wings snap in-flight, killing the passengers and the production crew instead opted to use a model instead of the real deal, that should explain a whole deal about how it could support the car's weight: not very well.

Xenoveritas
May 9, 2010
Dinosaur Gum

Pesky Splinter posted:

Campy silly Bond stuff is fine. Campy silly stuff that ruins that stunt, is not :colbert:

Which is probably why when the Mythbusters took on this stunt, while they did show the original movie clip several times, they completely removed the slide whistle.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
Speaking of the 'shameless Sony Xperia advertising' featured in the game (as well as in Skyfall), at the time Skyfall was playing in cinemas here in the UK, the Sony Xperia T (or the 'Bond phone') was an 'O2 exclusive' (O2 is a UK mobile/smartphone services provider). Anyone who bought it (or the Xperia S or U, etc.) also received a free copy of 007 Legends on the platform of their choice.

I had an Xperia phone at the time (not a T model though), but I sadly didn't receive the free offer.

But then again, who would want to buy a high-priced smartphone just to own a copy of this game? I was better off with a Samsung anyways.

References: Digital Spy O2

Junior Jr. fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Oct 23, 2014

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
I went to my gun range to shoot some of my old milsurp with a buddy and he had a Sony Xperia. I couldn't help laughing when I saw it.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Mission 04: Blofeld's Lair






Who is Ernst Stavro Blofeld?

Head of the global criminal group called SPECTRE (Special Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion), Blofeld is a megalomaniac with an aspiration to rule the world! (Of course!)

In the very early James Bond films, Blofeld is referred to as Number One by members of SPECTRE and his face is always concealed. His black dress suit and white cat are his trademarks until they changed his attire, however he always has a cat with him. In From Russia With Love, Blofeld wants to kill Bond as revenge for the death of Dr. No. In his second appearance, in Thunderball, he steals two nuclear weapons from the British and plans to ransom them for a hefty sum. In those two movies, he also eliminates several members of his organization, either due to the failure of their operation or for their disloyalty.



After FRWL and Thunderball, Blofeld would be portrayed by several different actors. The first of these was Donald Pleasence in the movie You Only Live Twice. Blofeld's plan involves capturing space shuttles while in orbit in order to provoke a war between the US and Russia. 007 Legends' Blofeld resemblences Pleasence very closely, but it seems to be off somewhat, sort of like two other characters we shall see later on.



In On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Blofeld is played by Telly Savalas. By this point, Blofeld is working independently or at the very least SPECTRE is rarely, if ever, mentioned again. This time around, he develops a special virus that will stop people, and only people, from reproducing. The virus will be taken to several points around the world and subsequently released by his so-called "Angels of Death". In return for not dooming humanity, he simply wishes amnesty and that all his past crimes be forgotten and cleared.



For Diamonds are Forever, Blofeld returns once again to terrorize the world for the final time. Played by Charles Gray, Blofeld's goal involves capturing and then pretending to be a millionaire tycoon and using his facilities to send an orbital laser into space. He then destroys several nuclear silos across the globe before threatening to destroy a country's nuclear arsenal to the highest bidder. As in the last movie featuring Blofeld, his different appearance is explained as a way to stay under the radar of MI6 and other intelligence agencies.

Ersnt Stavro Blofeld makes two other appearances. In the opening sequence to For Your Eyes Only, Blofeld is disposed of by Bond. It's really dumb and a waste of a potentially great conclusion between the two. Lastly, Max Von Sydow played Blofeld in the non-EON film Never Say Never Again which was a remake of Thunderball.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
Oh, so that's where all the cat-petting-world-overtaking jokes come from.

anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Oct 25, 2014

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

anilEhilated posted:

Oh, so that's where all the cat-petting-world-overtaking jokes come from.

Raul Julia immortalised the "evil mastermind chewing the scenery" with his line delivery but Blofeld is, as far as I know, the first super bad guy to have a cat and is obscured from view.

Theres never a moment with Blofeld where he over enthusiastically declares his rulership of the world. :(

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Ersnt Stavro Blofeld makes two other appearances. In the opening sequence to For Your Eyes Only, Blofeld is disposed of by Bond. It's really dumb and a waste of a potentially great conclusion between the two.

I did some reading about this and apparently it was a take-that against Kevin McClory. McClory sued Ian Fleming after they got together to work on a James Bond film starting in 1958 and Fleming took the content of the script and turned it into the Thunderball novel. McClory won the film and literary rights to the screenplay while Fleming was allowed to keep the novel; the trial was stressful on Fleming's poor health and he died less than a year after it concluded. When EON Productions wanted to make a Thunderball adaptation, they had to work with McClory to give him producer and partial writing credit (since it was listed as being based on his screenplay) in return for him not making a Thunderball adaptation for 10 years. Never Say Never Again was the film that resulted from McClory making his own adaptation.

So when EON wanted to bring back Blofeld, they found that McClory had held the rights to everything in Thunderball and he was insisting that this also included SPECTRE and Blofeld. They disputed it, but eventually stopped bothering. They included a not-directly-named-or-seen Blofeld and rapidly killed him off in a degrading way to show that they didn't need to use the character to make good Bond films. McClory ended up making multiple attempts to produce films based on his old script (with Never Say Never Again being the only successful one) and repeatedly being hampered by United Artists and the Fleming estate until he finally died in 2006, with MGM and Danjaq, LLC inheriting all rights and interests of his estate last year. And so the circle is closed.

chitoryu12 fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Oct 25, 2014

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Jobbo_Fett posted:

007 Legends' Blofeld resemblences Pleasence very closely, but it seems to be off somewhat, sort of like two other characters we shall see later on.

I remember reading somewhere that the idea behind Legends!Blofeld's appearance was making him sort of an amalgam of all the Blofelds.

Given the rest of the game, I think we should consider ourselves lucky that they didn't just flat out base the model on Dr. Evil.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

A few other things from this latest video:

* I'm 100% sure this is on the Call of Duty engine, as the IW 3.0 engine from Call of Duty 4 is confirmed to have been used for the Quantum of Solace video game and IMFDB says that Goldeneye: Reloaded was ported to it from its original Wii engine.

* The way Bond empty reloads the MP5 is neat. I've gotten the chance to fire a real one and I own an airsoft MP5K-PDW, and that really is the best way to handle it. It's more attention to detail than I would have expected, since most developers just make sure to get the HK Slap in and that's as far as it goes.

* The weirdo bedrooms are a relic of the film. They were still going off of 1960s sci-fi pseudoscience for their brainwashing scene, so the girls are brainwashed simply by playing subliminal messages to them in their sleep. "You looooove chickens."

Grimthwacker
Aug 7, 2014

Goddrat Blofeld has one swanky lair. Comfy-looking furniture and nice bedrooms all over the place.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Yeah the whole issue about ownership of certain stories/characters/etc was pretty strange, and it spawned a really lovely movie. I know they couldn't name Blofeld when they finally killed him off for good but I wonder what it would've been like if they'd had a grand finale between the two.


Overflight posted:

I remember reading somewhere that the idea behind Legends!Blofeld's appearance was making him sort of an amalgam of all the Blofelds.

Given the rest of the game, I think we should consider ourselves lucky that they didn't just flat out base the model on Dr. Evil.

I guess I can see him as a mix between Pleasence and Salavas but I have no clue how Gray influences the Legends design. I might actually prefer a Dr. Evil skin...



chitoryu12 posted:

* The weirdo bedrooms are a relic of the film. They were still going off of 1960s sci-fi pseudoscience for their brainwashing scene, so the girls are brainwashed simply by playing subliminal messages to them in their sleep. "You looooove chickens."

Oh I know all about the weird rooms, but the level layout is just completely stupid. The movie had a simple hallway with connecting rooms, not some weird bedroom arrangements that would confuse the living hell out of any guests.



Grimthwacker posted:

Goddrat Blofeld has one swanky lair. Comfy-looking furniture and nice bedrooms all over the place.

I'd totally live in Blofeld's Lair if it existed and looked like that the movie version.

Inco
Apr 3, 2009

I have been working out! My modem is broken and my phone eats half the posts I try to make, including all the posts I've tried to make here. I'll try this one more time.

Jobbo_Fett posted:


I guess I can see him as a mix between Pleasence and Salavas but I have no clue how Gray influences the Legends design. I might actually prefer a Dr. Evil skin...


I think it's supposed to be Savalas' face with Pleasance's scar and Gray's jawline (maybe eye colour as well?).

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



One thing that bothered me (after rewatching all of the Bond films in order) was seeing Charles Gray appear in a role I had forgotten in 'You Only Live Twice', only to come back a few years later as Blofeld.

It's similar to how Joe Don Baker was in The Living Daylights as one of the main villains, but then reappeared in both Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies as a CIA Agent.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

FlamingLiberal posted:

One thing that bothered me (after rewatching all of the Bond films in order) was seeing Charles Gray appear in a role I had forgotten in 'You Only Live Twice', only to come back a few years later as Blofeld.

It's similar to how Joe Don Baker was in The Living Daylights as one of the main villains, but then reappeared in both Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies as a CIA Agent.

They've got nothing on Maud Adams. Leading female in Octopussy, femme fatale in Man with the Golden Gun, and an uncredited cameo as an extra in View to a Kill (she happened to be in town).

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

chitoryu12 posted:

They've got nothing on Maud Adams. Leading female in Octopussy, femme fatale in Man with the Golden Gun, and an uncredited cameo as an extra in View to a Kill (she happened to be in town).


FlamingLiberal posted:

One thing that bothered me (after rewatching all of the Bond films in order) was seeing Charles Gray appear in a role I had forgotten in 'You Only Live Twice', only to come back a few years later as Blofeld.

It's similar to how Joe Don Baker was in The Living Daylights as one of the main villains, but then reappeared in both Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies as a CIA Agent.

Y'all motherfuckers need to watch OPERATION DOUBLE 007 featuring none other than: Bernard Lee - M (As M), Lois Maxwell - Moneypenny (As Moneypenny), Adolfo Celi - Emilio Largo (#2 as... #2), Anthony Dawson - Professor Dent (As #1 or Alpha), Daniela Bianchi - Tatiana Romanova (As Female Love Interest) and Neil Connery - Sean Connery's Brother (As Sean Connery's Brother!)

Seriously, Operation Double 007 (A.K.A. Operation Kid Brother, OK Connery or Secret Agent 00) is an incredibly bad movie which is why it's such a good movie. The story is dumb, the characters are worse and the movie even got the MST3K treatment.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying

Jobbo_Fett posted:

OPERATION DOUBLE 007
"Operation double double-O seven"?

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Sindai posted:

"Operation double double-O seven"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Double_007

Yup

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Sindai posted:

"Operation double double-O seven"?

Yes. It is campy as hell, it doesn't take itself seriously for a single moment, and it is amazing if you watch it as a straight-faced comedy. Neil Connery (as Neil Connery) has magic hypnotism powers and at one point not-Blofeld's minions dress up as showgirls to hijack a nuclear weapon. You can see it here.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
Double DOUBLE O-SEVEN!? I thought Bond couldn't get more goofier than that 60's Casino Royale...guess I thought wrong.

But this film better have a good theme song, because I really liked the soundtrack for Casino Royale...and they better have a funnier scene than the last scene of that film.

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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Junior Jr. posted:

Double DOUBLE O-SEVEN!? I thought Bond couldn't get more goofier than that 60's Casino Royale...guess I thought wrong.

Strong words from Junior Jr.

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