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I enjoyed rap music more than RTJ but all three albums are similar. They are too dark and rappidy rap. Killer Mike is technically impressive but his delivery grates on me. I can't unhear his ratatata ratatata flow from that first outkast song he did with the african singing. But I like to read his lyrics. El-P is cool, a favorite of mine, but I can only take a few songs from him until I'm completely numb. His production is overwhelming and not in an entertaining way. I've listened to both RTJ albums multiple times and I was disappointed by both. They never live up the hype and never seem to be better than anything else out there. Flatbush Zombies, Odd Future, even Kanye is doing everything RTJ does. RTJ had good branding and good will with the right internet people to make it buzz. But I can't think of anything on those albums that is noteworthy other than it being real hiphop for people that are too cool for real hiphop. If El-P used break beats, they would probably hate it.
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I really like RTJ but I do agree with you on that, temple: it is a bit intense to listen to. If I listen to the whole album I need to take a break from it for a while and listen to something more chill.
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Oct 27, 2014 16:09
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Pretty much all of those things are stuff I like in hip-hop. It sounds more like RTJ doesn't suit your tastes than like it's overhyped. Also lol, Odd Future. And Flatbush Zombies are fun but I don't really hear the similarities.
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Oct 27, 2014 16:13
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El-P has been solid for years. Look up Cannibal Ox's The Cold Vein from years ago, which El-P produced. It's amazing.
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Oct 27, 2014 16:23
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Henchman of Santa posted:Pretty much all of those things are stuff I like in hip-hop. It sounds more like RTJ doesn't suit your tastes than like it's overhyped. Odd and Flatbush make dark, angry rap to much better effect than Killer Mike's fat mouth trying to say tongue twisters or El-P describing intense alien violence and dick jokes.
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Oct 27, 2014 16:30
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temple posted:It can be both not my taste and overhyped. Can we just cut to the chase and have a katana duel over this album?
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Oct 27, 2014 16:33
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It's overhyped on the internet for sure. It's one of those albums that the really vocal internet music nerds love. It's a blog album. Whether it's intended to be an album that reddits hip hop section or not(almost certainly not) it really resonates with them for whatever reason (which is hilarious). It's angry, anti-establishment, "funny", weird, well-produced, in your face, which is everything internet weirdos love and aspire to be but aren't. I have solved the album and the internet, Thank you god bless
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Oct 27, 2014 16:40
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All valid criticisms but Killer Mike still delivers my favorite political verses. Lie, Cheat, Steal is great. It's kinda weird that El-P's contributions dont really seem to align on that subject matter at all though... And i really agree with the production being too grating across the whole albums (though RTJ2 corrects this or tries to at least) but even sometimes within a singular song... Like Especially on that zach de la rocha song good god that vocal sample did not deserve to be the foundation for an entire beat thathonkey fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Oct 27, 2014 |
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Oct 27, 2014 16:59
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Robert Analog posted:I was hoping Drake was gonna embarrass himself with some fake gang stuff, but after looking it up it's something about Toronto's area codes and it seems dumb. lol, oh Drake. 
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Oct 27, 2014 17:30
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Now i need a Gucci frankentape called "Views from the 6"
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Oct 27, 2014 17:36
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temple posted:It can be both not my taste and overhyped. Can we just cut to the chase and have a katana duel over this album? El-P as a producer stacks up (qualitywise, obv not saleswise) against anyone in the history of rap. Like most good producers have a particular sound that they start, and then wear out because they can't change, or try to change but their efforts fall flat outside whatever style they are known for initially. El-P's a dude who's been able to make amazingly produced albums over a long period of time, while keeping a signature sound and updating it so it's never stale. Like I can't think of but maybe 10 dudes I'd put up with him as a producer (and even that number may be generous).
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Oct 27, 2014 18:06
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I also just don't think of RTJ as dark or angry. The first album is as much fun as I've ever had listening to a rap album. R.A.P. Music is a lot angrier but when I think of "dark" hip-hop I think of like Billy Woods.
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Oct 27, 2014 18:27
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echronorian posted:I've been waiting for a Despot album for more than a third of my life http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYQOGH_IqCY Dude can rock a mic, how come I can't buy his album  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1hjNTR4AQw
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Oct 27, 2014 19:39
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Rae Sremmurd did a nice track with Baauer and Alunageorge: http://www.thefader.com/2014/10/27/bauuer-rae-sremmurd-alunageorge-one-touch Also holy poo poo why have I been sleeping on OG Maco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsag6pbNYR4
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Oct 27, 2014 21:31
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polpotpotpotpotpot posted:Dude can rock a mic, how come I can't buy his album Crap Artists gives me goosebumps still and I've heard it at least a hundred times, starting with his MySpace page like 9 years ago.
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Oct 27, 2014 21:36
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temple posted:I can't unhear his ratatata ratatata flow from that first outkast song he did with the african singing. that's honestly really unfortunate and I am not going to try to change your mind about something like that but out of curiousity is this the song you were talking about - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udmTfK6_aM8 ? edit: anyway he has come a long way since then (2001) at least but yeah he will occasionally fallback on that same flow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbMy-mXMH-0 thathonkey fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Oct 27, 2014 |
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Oct 27, 2014 21:44
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temple posted:El-P is cool, a favorite of mine, but I can only take a few songs from him until I'm completely numb. His production is overwhelming and not in an entertaining way. I get what you're saying. El-P tends to come in two flavors: schizophrenic and dystopian (or both). I definitely have to be in the right mood to listen to him or it just isn't particularly enjoyable.
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Oct 27, 2014 21:45
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Just bought the new Ugly Mane and I have RTJ2 still to listen to  Also Carter V got delayed for anyone who cares
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Oct 27, 2014 21:52
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Time for Sorry for the Wait pt 2
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Oct 27, 2014 22:14
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Rich Gang is the best group of the 2010s
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I hope when he comes he comes out hard as he implies there. I like Gucci and think he can make better music than he is.
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Oct 28, 2014 00:12
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More like Traps God hahahaha
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Civil posted:El-P has been solid for years. Look up Cannibal Ox's The Cold Vein from years ago, which El-P produced. It's amazing. This is real true. The Cold Vein is a great album, I still remember some dipshit in this thread telling me he thought Exquire's rapping over those beats was better than the Cannibal Ox stuff, and I wanted to kick dude in the forehead.
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InnercityGriot posted:This is real true. The Cold Vein is a great album, I still remember some dipshit in this thread telling me he thought Exquire's rapping over those beats was better than the Cannibal Ox stuff, and I wanted to kick dude in the forehead. sounds traumatizing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3yxCBcjh2E More importantly: OLD SCHOOL EARL https://soundcloud.com/imremark/earl-sweatshirt-rats-full-version Alan Smithee where are you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHFsciJcR1k spoils fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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Oct 28, 2014 03:47
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That new Lupe track is really good. http://youtu.be/01MMgG7bYBE
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Oct 28, 2014 05:24
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I don't post much but I had to share these two tracks by Inglewood's own Skeme, https://soundcloud.com/skemesgodb/peace-of-mind https://soundcloud.com/skemesgodb/promise
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Carter V got pushed back too but everyone expects that.
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YMCMB crumblin' if it weren't for drake
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:Rich Gang is the best group of the 2010s i super hope you are talking about thugga/quan and not the super butthole ymcmb b-track posse cut albums. if youre talking about thugga/quan yeah that album loving rules
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Thanks I forgot about this cool song
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Future's tape is out at 10:28 tonight http://www.datpiff.com/Future-Monster-mixtape.652571.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjzQI2VFR-k 
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thathonkey posted:but out of curiousity is this the song you were talking about - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udmTfK6_aM8 ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZr89H66hSY
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:Rich Gang is the best group of the 2010s Speaking of https://twitter.com/ComplexMusic/status/526912580787654657
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aha holy crap forgot about this song altogether. flow is admittedly weak but......... song still owns man thanks for reminding me  K-I-L-L fake edit: anyway, wanted to also point out that I wasn't really feeling the Boots song from RTJ 2 at all but the chorus part that he does got stuck in my head today and Mike's verse is really good on there even though the two sound kinda weird together https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeR41A4w69Y
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Oct 28, 2014 22:01
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Ahhhh this will be the best thanksgiving
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it sounds like this is supposed to be an itunes bonus track or something? not sure what that means for a free album but it's on soundcloud again now Run the Jewels - Blockbuster Night Part 2 (feat. Despot) god hell yes.
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