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keyvin posted:Serious question. Why do I have to download 500mb of outdated packages so I can download 500mb of current packages? What is so hard about automating a process to build a current image every other week or so, and clearly label it as current rather than the official release? Every bit is sacred when AT&T is your only option. hello keyvin have you hear of a "jigdo" image it is a pretty cool thing imagined and abandoned by fedora
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keyvin posted:Serious question. Why do I have to download 500mb of outdated packages so I can download 500mb of current packages? What is so hard about automating a process to build a current image every other week or so, and clearly label it as current rather than the official release? Every bit is sacred when AT&T is your only option. Don't assume Fedora's infrastructure and processes are designed to do anything else than value the packaging community and contributors. This is something I tried to fix three times while I was at Red Hat.
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Network installs have the updates repository enabled in addition to base and get the newest versions automatically.
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poo poo, I didn't realize anyone besides Debian had netinst or jigdo. I burned the full set of debian stable blurays for a friend that lives on top of a mountain with satellite and used jigdo to do it. Edit: Probably because I only ever google for blah xx torrent.
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Suspicious Dish posted:This is something I tried to fix three times while I was at Red Hat. Get an MBA so you can write a sweet proposal titled: "Bringing more to the table at the end of the day to enhace fedora/user synergy". Actually I have no idea if that works at tech companies because I didn't want to move out of flyover country.
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Oct 31, 2014 03:43
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keyvin posted:I burned the full set of debian stable blurays for a friend that lives on top of a mountain with satellite and used jigdo to do it. lol
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Oct 31, 2014 03:48
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ZShakespeare posted:I like debian stable because it's not constantly pushing untested security updates that break your graphics driver. whoa whoa whoa when did Debian stable get graphic support
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Oct 31, 2014 03:50
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I run debian stable on the desktop, it's actually the best linux once you get tired of the bleeding edge getting blood all over your keyboard
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Oct 31, 2014 10:23
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the last release was 19 days ago -- 2.24.25 sounds pretty stagnant to me
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Oct 31, 2014 13:41
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pram posted:lol He said no, but I knew he wanted it.
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Soricidus posted:I run debian stable on the desktop, it's actually the best linux once you get tired of the bleeding edge getting blood all over your keyboard not precisely a debian-specific story but bind people knew about a change in gcc4 that breaks bind back in ... march? committed a workaround fix at the end of september this is what you deal with on the bleeding edge of linux
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api call girl posted:not precisely a debian-specific story this bit me on debian
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Oct 31, 2014 16:02
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http://debianfork.org/ keep loving that chicken
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quote:How long are your beards?
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api call girl posted:http://debianfork.org/ holy poo poo look at all those words in 28pt font that im not going to read fuckin web design by Dr. Gene Ray, Cubic and Wisest Human
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Oct 31, 2014 16:43
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api call girl posted:keep forking that chicken
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api call girl posted:http://debianfork.org/ jesus christ, just loving fork it if you feel so loving strongly about it. these words make me want to kick these people in the shins. i'm not sold on systemd, but this site is making me want to embrace it. e: prob the plan of suspicious dish all along.  he made the site...
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Winkle-Daddy posted:jesus christ, just loving fork it if you feel so loving strongly about it spoiler: spoiled little manchildren throwing a tantrum hoping their parents will give in
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Oct 31, 2014 17:04
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systemd betrays the unix philosophy as much as the linux kernel does
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what's the unix philosophy again?
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is it "do one thing and do it well"? hm, no, can't be that or "everything is a file"? no, not that one either.
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"Wheel group is the appropriate way to handle permissions"
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Oct 31, 2014 17:21
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Suspicious Dish posted:what's the unix philosophy again? Is this one of the "rhetorical" questions you aren't supposed to answer? I thought unix was designed around the ability to play games.
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I'm asking because everybody seems to think that systemd doesn't follow the UNIX philosophy, but nobody has been able to tell me what that is, and why Linux follows it.
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Suspicious Dish posted:I'm asking because everybody seems to think that systemd doesn't follow the UNIX philosophy, but nobody has been able to tell me what that is, and why Linux follows it. Let me ask on the debian mailing list for you. I think it could result in some laffs.
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i think the unix philosophy is to make bespoke scripts to solve problems that shouldn't exist in the first place to ensure job security by obscurity
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Oct 31, 2014 18:01
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Suspicious Dish posted:what's the unix philosophy again? the customer is always wrong.
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Oct 31, 2014 18:08
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Shaggar posted:the customer is always wrong. Shaggar was right.
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Oct 31, 2014 18:17
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the unix philosophy is two things gentlemen. first, its make a program that does one thing well. second is worse is better
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Oct 31, 2014 19:43
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I heard from a friend that the guy that designed power shell is now responsible for a division at microsoft. Finally they are bringing the Unix ease of use to windows.
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Oct 31, 2014 19:49
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pram posted:the unix philosophy is two things gentlemen. first, its make a program that does one thing well. second is worse is better What one thing does Linux do, and what does it do well?
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It annoys Shaggars pretty well?
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Suspicious Dish posted:What one thing does Linux do, and what does it do well? crashes xDDD
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Smythe posted:crashes xDDD $ uptime 16:12:24 up 268 days, 4:59, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05 my irc session is v stable tyvm.
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ya mine doesnt rly crash either xcept firefox blows up a lot idk i use chrome mostly i wa sjust trying 2 razz sum linux ppl hehe  :iamafag:
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Oct 31, 2014 22:18
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pram posted:the unix philosophy is two things gentlemen. first, its make a program that does one thing well. second is worse is better this is also a good yosposting philosophy
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Suspicious Dish posted:What one thing does Linux do, and what does it do well? linux is a kernel my friend, a part of the GNU operating ssytem, which is comprised of many different open source components with contributions from members around the globe!!
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bobbilljim posted:hello keyvin have you hear of a "jigdo" image it is a pretty cool thing imagined and abandoned by fedora is that like a metalink??? another cool linux technology
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Suspicious Dish posted:What one thing does Linux do, and what does it do well?
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keyvin posted:I heard from a friend that the guy that designed power shell is now responsible for a division at microsoft. Finally they are bringing the Unix ease of use to windows. jeff snover? no but he high up in the datacenter management and is like, a vp equivalent
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