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Red Mundus
Oct 22, 2010
Shadowrun Returns is a solid RPG and quite fun. However it's very linear and there aren't a whole lot of choices to be made throughout the game. The final level is a pain in the rear end though.

I enjoyed it for what it was and the story is well told and decent enough to keep you powering through to see what happens. Replay value is limited due to the aforementioned linearity.

The combat tends to sway between being rote or surprisingly deep. One of the best moments of the game was parking my mage over a ley line making GBS threads magic everywhere while my troll mowed down enemies and my hacker was deep in cyberspace trying to open a door. Sadly not all of the levels offer situations like that. Difficulty is just right imo which is a good thing for a crpg.

Dragonfall I haven't played yet but literally everyone I know who has played it has giving it a glowing review. The devs also released the directors cut due to popularity.

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Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Tezzeract posted:

When L4D2 came out, it was the best thing on Steam. I really don't know what happened to it.

The L4D community happened to it. I haven't played such a great game that was ruined by such a toxic multiplayer community since DOTA. L4D's is arguably worse because you can at least still try to learn the ropes in 3v5 games and not get votekicked at every chance.

Red Mundus
Oct 22, 2010
Are we talking about versus mode? I played co-op only and it was a blast with pubbies. Occasionally a brand new player would show up and we'd carry him through levels and such. Versus I played once and never, ever again. So many angry people.

Thoughtless
Feb 1, 2007


Doesn't think, just types.

Red Mundus posted:

Are we talking about versus mode? I played co-op only and it was a blast with pubbies. Occasionally a brand new player would show up and we'd carry him through levels and such. Versus I played once and never, ever again. So many angry people.

Yes, Versus is the one with a terrible community. Co-op is generally friendly.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
I'd honestly take the PC Left 4 Dead 2 community over the Xbox 360 one any day. I used to own that version of the game when I didn't have a PC, and it was impossible to play it without getting votekicked and sent angry PMs.

Then again, the Xbox version of L4D2 was pretty poo poo in general. You had to pay :10bux: for free DLC.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



I think that was a big part of why Portal 2 had no Steam integration on the 360 like it did on PS3, also why TF2 was never really updated there.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Manatee Cannon posted:

I think that was a big part of why Portal 2 had no Steam integration on the 360 like it did on PS3, also why TF2 was never really updated there.
There were a lot of reasons why TF2 was never really updated on the consoles. The biggest one was that the launch version only barely fit in the 360's 512mb of RAM.

Crashbee
May 15, 2007

Stupid people are great at winning arguments, because they're too stupid to realize they've lost.

Darkhold posted:

Most classes in DIII need about 30ish levels before you start to get some interesting builds. I'd say Demon Hunter is one of the worst for this along with Wizard.

Deakul was talking about Van Helsing, for which I'd suggest starting off as a mechanic.

Lonely Rolling Star
Mar 20, 2009

Better than a crowbar.

Eruonen posted:

No, it doesn't require that at all. Palpek is wrong about the community too: it's fine. Not great, but fine.

I wouldn't agree with him about the maps requiring rote memorization, since they are usually pretty linear. But I would agree the community is horrible. Both random public groups and goons were giant babies about the game when I was playing. I had fuckers ragequit while screaming because we weren't winning hard enough.

frank.club
Jan 15, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
It's completely bizarre how people sperg the gently caress out in a non competitive co op game. L4D has it terrible

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Acquire Currency! posted:

It's completely bizarre how people sperg the gently caress out in a non competitive co op game. L4D has it terrible

I always found co-op fine as long as you don't play on the very hardest difficulty because the only people who play on that are the spergs. In all the time I spent playing both games I found one random public game where cool people were trying to beat it. Every other time it was either people who would freak at the slightest hint you were doing something wrong or people who had no business playing on that difficulty and freaked out whenever something went wrong.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



Acquire Currency! posted:

It's completely bizarre how people sperg the gently caress out in a non competitive co op game. L4D has it terrible

The L4D games have a competitive versus mode, which is what people are talking about. I dunno why you'd ever play coop with randoms in the first place, you may as well play with the AI at that point.

Nasgate
Jun 7, 2011
Idk if the OP gets updated, but I would like to point out that the Can You Run it website automatically assumes integrated graphics can't handle any games. It tells me my PC can't handle Dota 2 or Fallout: NV, both of which i run on max without issue.

On another note. Can anyone say something on Transistor? I know Bastion was a hit, and I like the art style, but it screams "This game is innovative because the protagonist is a girl"

Orv
May 4, 2011
And now the L4D guys are making another game that requires extreme competence from all parties to be enjoyable. To wit;

Hobo Siege posted:

So has anyone had a monster say "1v1 me and then u see what happen fgt" yet?

oblomov
Jun 20, 2002

Meh... #overrated
On D3 - this is one of the very very few times when I would recommend a console port if you have Xbone or PS4. I am just having a much better time on PS4 vs PC, it's almost a different game. However, if that's not an option then it's certainly still good on PC. I tried Torchlight 2, Path of Exile, and most of other loot based ARPGs and D3 with expansion is just a better game, IMO, unless you are into the whole "hardcore" poo poo then PoE might be better, but it's not as fun, IMO. Grim Dawn looks promising as well, but I am not feeling it enough to buy into EA version.

Van Helsing is actually pretty great and I recommend it. It's cheap and it's a good game. I don't think it has much replay value but at $6.79 including all DLCs, it's a great value. I haven't played the sequel so no idea if that one is better.

Reminder - buy Valkyrie Chronicles through GMG or G2A for like $15 (never used G2A but GMG doesn't work for some). It's a great SRPG and one of the best PS3 exclusives and games in general. It's also going to be a great port with high res support, customizable controls, 60fps, and low requirements. Get this game!

Btw, if you bought Sleeping Dogs on Steam, you have another day or so to get the upgraded edition for $15. Looks like they patched up some early graphics issues and there are a few cool things about it like people density in the city. I am debating on grabbing that since I never finished the original (gaming ADD here).

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Nasgate posted:


On another note. Can anyone say something on Transistor? I know Bastion was a hit, and I like the art style, but it screams "This game is innovative because the protagonist is a girl"

I really had fun with how Bastion came out and thought it was nice that Transistor broke away from that mold a little, but Transistor is lifeless compared to Bastion. It has a nice soundtrack and the combat mechanics are okay-ish enough to hold your attention for a few hours, but it is just utterly emotionless and lifeless. It's not a thing I could recommend to anyone with any sort of excitement.

It's not bad, it's just 'meh'.

Terminally Bored
Oct 31, 2011

Twenty-five dollars and a six pack to my name

Nasgate posted:

Idk if the OP gets updated, but I would like to point out that the Can You Run it website automatically assumes integrated graphics can't handle any games. It tells me my PC can't handle Dota 2 or Fallout: NV, both of which i run on max without issue.

On another note. Can anyone say something on Transistor? I know Bastion was a hit, and I like the art style, but it screams "This game is innovative because the protagonist is a girl"

Literally the best thing about this game is that you can hold a button during non-combat gameplay and the main character will hum along the soundtrack. Other than that, what Drifter said. Bastion had soul, Transistor just sorta is out there. Pretty good combat system, but the fights get monotonous after a while.

Safari Disco Lion
Jul 21, 2011

Boss, if they make us find seven lost crystals, I'm quitting.

oblomov posted:

Btw, if you bought Sleeping Dogs on Steam, you have another day or so to get the upgraded edition for $15. Looks like they patched up some early graphics issues and there are a few cool things about it like people density in the city. I am debating on grabbing that since I never finished the original (gaming ADD here).

I'm slightly concerned about this, since it says it includes all the old DLC, and I remember there being a few that you actively wouldn't want to get because it would automatically give you tons of money at the start of the game or something and would just break it. Is this the case?

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
The soundtrack is good. I didn't like it as much as the one in Bastion though!

Also, Payday 2 is stupid fun. That's all.

abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010

:darksouls:
no, bad Steam



this is what I get for playing Long Live the Queen, isn't it

e: all of the other recommended games are anime bullshit, oh god no

Orv
May 4, 2011

Safari Disco Lion posted:

I'm slightly concerned about this, since it says it includes all the old DLC, and I remember there being a few that you actively wouldn't want to get because it would automatically give you tons of money at the start of the game or something and would just break it. Is this the case?

It is the case, but you can disable all of those with an ini tweak.

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

abraham linksys posted:

no, bad Steam



this is what I get for playing Long Live the Queen, isn't it

e: all of the other recommended games are anime bullshit, oh god no

no they scanned your pc and found your porn stash

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord
Yeah, if you're not going to like the combat Transistor has little for you. As been stated it feels kind of like a hollow retread of Bastion without a lot of the heart and quality writing. It looks nice and it has a quality soundtrack but its really forgettable, unlike Bastion.

Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I
Whelp, I just beat RE4 and it crashed to desktop after the end credits, wiping my save. Now I have to play through the QTE boss and the dumb jetski segment again, but for all I know it's just going to crash again.

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


The newest game on Steam: The Slaughtering Grounds.







quote:

The Slaughtering Grounds delivers a constant intense experience while tossing in comical use of excessive physics and blood for those Laugh out loud moments. Never a shortage of zombies to slay and random events are happening all the time. Play single player or 64 player arena FFA's.

This can't be real, right? Those low-res blood splatters with not fully removed noise, my god.

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!

abraham linksys posted:

no, bad Steam



this is what I get for playing Long Live the Queen, isn't it

e: all of the other recommended games are anime bullshit, oh god no

That's extremely spooky.

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord

Palpek posted:

The newest game on Steam: The Slaughtering Grounds.

This can't be real, right? Those low-res blood splatters with not fully removed noise, my god.
I think I'll just continuing waiting for Killing Floor 2, thanks.

Darkhold
Feb 19, 2011

No Heart❤️
No Soul👻
No Service🙅

Crashbee posted:

Deakul was talking about Van Helsing, for which I'd suggest starting off as a mechanic.
Erm whoops. Guess my reading comprehension is pretty bad today.

lordfrikk
Mar 11, 2010

Oh, say it ain't fuckin' so,
you stupid fuck!
Transistor should've been much better that it ended being. It started out amazing with pretty interesting premise but when it started to look like it's starting to go somewhere, it just sorta ended. I'm usually not one to harp on games for being short, but man I swear like there was a chunk missing.

Ragequit
Jun 1, 2006


Lipstick Apathy
I thought Transistor had a lot of heart. It looked better than Bastion, had music on par with Bastion, and had combat better than Bastion. You only got to use two weapons with very little customization in Bastion, but in Transistor you can combine any of your skills in a button slot for fairly unique effects. I quite liked the story as well. It left a few things to your imagination/interpretation which was great. Also a few different things happened on each new game +.

Absolutely worth your $10 if you enjoyed Bastion in any capacity.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Palpek posted:

The newest game on Steam: The Slaughtering Grounds.








This can't be real, right? Those low-res blood splatters with not fully removed noise, my god.
Bloody screen - so real.

Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!

Darkhold posted:

Most classes in DIII need about 30ish levels before you start to get some interesting builds. I'd say Demon Hunter is one of the worst for this along with Wizard.

Good thing is you only need to level each class once as you can always switch around your build on the fly if you see some more interesting skills you want to try out.

Make sure you start on hard (not normal it's pointless) and blow through the story mode as fast as you can so you can unlock adventure mode. Good thing is though for a few more days your XP is doubled for Halloween (on top of the difficulty XP bonus) so you should be able to level a couple of characters very quickly and find what you like.

If you're looking for Goons to play with make sure you join the community LLJK and the guild. You'll probably want to start a seasonal character as well because there's currently a slight majority of goons playing seasons and as you're starting fresh anyway it won't matter to you.

Edit: oh and I'll happily powerlevel you if I'm on and that's your thing. Darkhold#1887

I was actually talking about Van Helsing but noted nonetheless!
I'd like to play through singleplayer by myself atleast once but I'll definitely hit you up for future playthroughs.

My bnet name is Deakul#1952 for any goons that feel like being bnet friends with me. :buddy:

Deakul fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Nov 1, 2014

Babby Formed
Jan 2, 2009
Transistor had an amazing combat system that could have made a fun as heck game. They only used it for the last boss fight. The other 95% of it is very dull.

EDIT: that's not completely fair, the other 95% of it is very dull but has an amazing soundtrack.

Babby Formed fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Nov 1, 2014

Malek
Jun 22, 2003

Shut up Girl!
And as always: Kill Hitler.

Babby Formed posted:

Transistor had an amazing combat system that could have made a fun as heck game. They only used it for the last boss fight. The other 95% of it is very dull.

EDIT: that's not completely fair, the other 95% of it is very dull but has an amazing soundtrack.

and that ending... :smith:

Ragequit
Jun 1, 2006


Lipstick Apathy

Babby Formed posted:

Transistor had an amazing combat system that could have made a fun as heck game. They only used it for the last boss fight. The other 95% of it is very dull.

EDIT: that's not completely fair, the other 95% of it is very dull but has an amazing soundtrack.

That's pretty crazy. I used the combat system the entire game!

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
Transistor has a great soundtrack and absolutely beautiful artwork, and even manages to solve the problem Bastion had where The Kid looked great in promo art but looked like a gremlin with a massive head in motion. Every frame of Transistor is totally gorgeous.

It's a shame that the gameplay is built to encourage experimentation, but that doesn't necessarily mean depth, because it's usually just "find the most-agreed-upon combo and spam it." I remember people playing at the idea of it being good enough combat to sustain replayability, but that hype died off pretty quickly, for obvious reasons.

frank.club
Jan 15, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Malek posted:

and that ending... :smith:

Actually the first thing you hear on NG+ is the :stare: moment.
The soundtrack is whoa

Malek
Jun 22, 2003

Shut up Girl!
And as always: Kill Hitler.

Acquire Currency! posted:

Actually the first thing you hear on NG+ is the :stare: moment.
The soundtrack is whoa

WAIT WHAT!? I need to reply this again?

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Drifter posted:

I really had fun with how Bastion came out and thought it was nice that Transistor broke away from that mold a little, but Transistor is lifeless compared to Bastion. It has a nice soundtrack and the combat mechanics are okay-ish enough to hold your attention for a few hours, but it is just utterly emotionless and lifeless. It's not a thing I could recommend to anyone with any sort of excitement.

It's not bad, it's just 'meh'.

I'll back you there. The combat was really cool and did have a lot more depth/uniquness than Bastion, but hot drat the world and everything was rather soulless whereas I actually felt compared enough to play Bastion twice with its very rich and vibrant world.

Like I get that could have been the devs intent to make an empty lifeless world, but it didn't make for an exciting game. Still, it's probably worth about <$7.50-$10

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Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch

Palpek posted:

The newest game on Steam: The Slaughtering Grounds.








This can't be real, right? Those low-res blood splatters with not fully removed noise, my god.

Just want to let you know this is not a $50 copy of Call of Duty made by a corporate dev team. This is a FPS shooter made by 1 guy for the price of a movie ticket. If you want to be toxic, rude, threaten my life, or any of the other fun things currently happening (which only people on the internet say) your post will be removed and you will be banned. If you don't care for the game that is totally fine leave a review or even better submit a bug report so i can fix it and make your experience better, if you just want to be rude don't expect anything other than a quick ban.

The absolute awful behavior towards not only this title but lots of other 1-3 man projects released on steam is truely revolting. Do i truely deserve death threats for the game i created? It's absolutely amazing, and alot of other developers feel the exact same but refrain from saying anything concrete to avoid a loss of sales. Does it matter though? Anyone can leave an unfair review stating the game is unplayable even though it is completely playable, and there is nothing that can be done from a developers point of view. We get to enjoy death threats, lies, and actual internet stalkers who check in daily just to be assholes, for making you a game to have some fun with.

That's about all i have, enjoy the game i will be checking the bug reports and apply hotfixes to anything that might be wrong. If you aren't one of the toxic crowd this isn't meant for you and i hope you have a great day.

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