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Bonk. Good card. Thanks for drawing attention to it. I kinda wish that I had watched it more closely.
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Yuriy posted:RIP Miguel Torres Load him into the surprise sex van and drive it off a cliff
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Yuriy posted:RIP Miguel Torres 
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Hey all, Cage Warriors has 2 cards on mmajunkie later today, starting at 2 pm EDT. They should be done by 9 pm EDT, when Invicta starts on Fight Pass. More free MMA is always fun, and Cage Warriors is probably the best Euro promotion.
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Yuriy posted:RIP Miguel Torres He had a good run. He got to the very top, let up off the gas, had his chin destroyed by Brian Bowles, tried to drastically change his style, and by then the new wave of BWs had evolved past him. He's a really good example of how quickly this sport evolved in about 5 years and having to work extra hard once you get the belt instead of just coasting.
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DumbWhiteGuy posted:He had a good run. He got to the very top, let up off the gas, had his chin destroyed by Brian Bowles, tried to drastically change his style, and by then the new wave of BWs had evolved past him. He's a really good example of how quickly this sport evolved in about 5 years and having to work extra hard once you get the belt instead of just coasting. I'd argue that he got his chin destroyed by Bowles because he changed his style. When I first started following him the hype was on his jits, but somewhere around the time he fought Mizugaki he decided that he was actually a striker, and that brawling was cool, and he turned into a smaller, mulletier Chris Leben, without the necessary chin credentials.
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CommonShore posted:I'd argue that he got his chin destroyed by Bowles because he changed his style. When I first started following him the hype was on his jits, but somewhere around the time he fought Mizugaki he decided that he was actually a striker, and that brawling was cool, and he turned into a smaller, mulletier Chris Leben, without the necessary chin credentials. You are right that he had a ton of hype about his grappling but he was still striking a lot before Mizu. I'm too lazy to look it up, but his Maeda fight had a lot of striking if I remember correctly. I'd say he was pretty well-rounded before he switched everything after Bowles.
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Really Miguel is an example of what your career looks like when you have terrific offense but awful defense in every area. Striking, wrestling, jiujitsu, that's pretty much how it went.
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fatherdog posted:Really Miguel is an example of what your career looks like when you have terrific offense but awful defense in every area. Striking, wrestling, jiujitsu, that's pretty much how it went. http://gfycat.com/GrimElectricAmericanbulldog
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Lewis Monarch. What a name. He better have a good nickname to go with it. e. if it's not "The Unlimited" or "The Absolute" he's wasted his life. CommonShore fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Nov 1, 2014 |
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Nov 1, 2014 19:05
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I'd argue that Miguel was not athletically gifted and got by on being effectively aggressive. Once he ran into people that were athletic and skilled he got steamrolled.
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Nov 1, 2014 19:10
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Is Invicta still worth watching tonight now that Dandois and Tiburcio were turned back at the Iowa border
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The cards are a lot shallower since UFC took most of their talent, but the last 4-5 matches should be legit.
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Mizuki Inoue is supposedly really good and going to the UFC any day now.
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Nov 1, 2014 21:31
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Invicta cards rule more often than not, so plan accordingly
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yo this kid on cage warriors looks about 13 http://cagewarriors.mmajunkie.com/
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Wow that's about the most savage one-shot cut I ever remember seeing
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the 13 year old kid cut a vagina into his opponent's head and is now dancing in celebration
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Heads up, at 11:30 PM EDT, XFCi, the dronecam Brazilian league will be streaming a Ukraine vs. Brazil card at https://xfcmma.com.
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Are there seperate prelims for Invicta somewhere? The countdown on their website ends at 8 ET but the fightpass page says the stream starts at 9. They have three fights between people with between 0 and 2 pro fights, so that seems like what they've shown for free in the past. I can't recall if they just showed everything on fightpass last time.
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Wise Learned Man posted:Are there seperate prelims for Invicta somewhere? The countdown on their website ends at 8 ET but the fightpass page says the stream starts at 9. They have three fights between people with between 0 and 2 pro fights, so that seems like what they've shown for free in the past. I can't recall if they just showed everything on fightpass last time. I dunno. I can't find a schedule anywhere.
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@InvictaFights · 25m 25 minutes ago Every fight tonight airs exclusively on @UFCFightPass including prelims. First fight is at 9pm EST. Dont miss any of the action! #InvictaFC9
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first time properly watching invicta, it's like pfc but with michael schiavello instead of somebody from sherdog and not streamed via isdn
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I figured Invicta deserved a thread. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3678262
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Triticum Guzzler posted:first time properly watching invicta, it's like pfc but with michael schiavello instead of somebody from sherdog and not streamed via isdn anything not involving TJ De Santis and his one ill-fitting grey suit is a-okay in my book
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It looks like I am going to be going to Bellator131 to watch my coach fight (Nam). Any other goons going? Or know where to get good taco's in San Diego?
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I'm going. Food in that part of town sucks so I'm probably hitting up downtown and then taking an Uber to the Sports Arena.
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fatherdog posted:Really Miguel is an example of what your career looks like when you have terrific offense but awful defense in every area. Striking, wrestling, jiujitsu, that's pretty much how it went.
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TheRationalRedditor posted:You're right. It's downright bizarre how his streak of overwhelming victories based on that offense fell off so sharply, but that assessment completely explains it. It's not that strange once you think about it a bit, really. The time at which he fell off was that same period in which submission defense really started to go up and bring us to this point at which four ufc kimuras in a year seems like a lot of kimuras (for reference, he lost to Bowles the night after UFC 101 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_101, just to give an idea of where we were). He was fighting top-level guys, so he was against the guys who were at the top because they were first starting to show actual defense in their games, generally. This is a sport in which you're either good or you're not. I wonder if we'll see the same thing happen to Rousey.
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http://www.sherdog.com/events/Bellator-131-Tito-vs-Bonnar-40331 You know that TV card isn't bad Nam Phan, Manhoef, King Mo, Brooks/Chandler and Tito/Bonnar are all things I kind of wanna see Shame it's going against a UFC card and a WSOF card
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CommonShore posted:He was fighting top-level guys, so he was against the guys who were at the top because they were first starting to show actual defense in their games, generally. This is a sport in which you're either good or you're not.
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Miguel said himself he fell off because on his way up he was a goon (zero friends, never smoked or drank, no girlfriends ever). He claims he did absolutely nothing but train. Then when he became champ he suddenly had friends, VIP tables at clubs, and women. He also quit training in order to enjoy those things. Now he is old and scrawny and not athletic enough to compete. The Mizugaki fight was a wake up call for his fans, seeing him eeek out a decision against a last minute replacement from another org, albeit a top fighter. It's crazy to think Torres actually had a really close fight against Mighty Mouse in the UFC. I remember him sweeping MM a lot.
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Well I'm pretty sure Mighty Mouse was still working full time in a warehouse at that point in his career.
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tesilential posted:It's crazy to think Torres actually had a really close fight against Mighty Mouse in the UFC. I remember him sweeping MM a lot. I kinda thought that Torres could have gotten the nod in that one because my impression at the time was that he was more active from his back than MM was on top.
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CommonShore posted:It's not that strange once you think about it a bit, really. The time at which he fell off was that same period in which submission defense really started to go up and bring us to this point at which four ufc kimuras in a year seems like a lot of kimuras (for reference, he lost to Bowles the night after UFC 101 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_101, just to give an idea of where we were). He was fighting top-level guys, so he was against the guys who were at the top because they were first starting to show actual defense in their games, generally. This is a sport in which you're either good or you're not. Yeah, imagine what would happen if Rousey were to wind up in the clinch with an Olympic wrestling medalist.
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The only way that Rousey is gonna lose is if a WMMA Frankie Edgar shows up. Being inside clinch range with Ronda is a sure fire prediction of loss at this point.
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Fat Twitter Man posted:Yeah, imagine what would happen if Rousey were to wind up in the clinch with an Olympic wrestling medalist. 1st AD posted:The only way that Rousey is gonna lose is if a WMMA Frankie Edgar shows up. Being inside clinch range with Ronda is a sure fire prediction of loss at this point. The women who she has been fighting have mostly lovely defense, so her amazing offense carries her through. WMMA Machida would also give her a ton of trouble.
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Now that Invicta is starting to run cards regularly, I hope they can get together a stable of recognizable fighters. Watching Barb and Karate Hottie hospitalize japanese cans, while funny, doesn't pay the bills.
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Barb Honchak has boring fights sometimes, Waterson never does. Edit: gently caress me Bellator is on the same night Mark Hunt becomes a world champion
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