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Sweevo posted:Yeah, I think a lot of people tend to forget that people used floppies for 30 years without major problems. It was only when the quality went to poo poo in the late 90s/early 2000s that the thing about them being bad out of the box became true. I've got boxes of Amiga floppies in the loft that all still work fine. 5.25" floppies definitely suffered from quality degradation in later years. Early ones were bulletproof; almost every single one of my 25-30 year old Kodak, BASF, and Elephant 5.25s still work fine despite a decade or two of being beat to death by a 1541 and then sitting mostly unused for years. The later generation Sony disks suffered quite a few failures over the years, though, and none of the lovely last-gen Panasonic disks (which were all I could find near the end of the 5.25" era) lasted more than a couple years (hell, half of them were dead out of the box). Edit: Most of those old floppies are full of C64  that my mom pirated from her friends when I was a kid. 
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dennyk posted:5.25" floppies definitely suffered from quality degradation in later years. Early ones were bulletproof; almost every single one of my 25-30 year old Kodak, BASF, and Elephant 5.25s still work fine despite a decade or two of being beat to death by a 1541 and then sitting mostly unused for years. The later generation Sony disks suffered quite a few failures over the years, though, and none of the lovely last-gen Panasonic disks (which were all I could find near the end of the 5.25" era) lasted more than a couple years (hell, half of them were dead out of the box). I think you might be confused by the fact that early 5.25 disks were often significantly lower density and thus much more tolerant of faults. Especially if what you were doing involved a lot of putting 1.2 MB IBM format designed floppies into your 1541 and trying to use them in its manner.
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Nov 4, 2014 05:44
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Writing detailed documentation about al our services and having coworkers come up and ask me how to troubleshoot it. The doco is there for a reason! ugh
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Nov 4, 2014 05:46
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Not pissing me off at all: the desktop guys at work dug up a couple laptop docks with serial ports so we can stop using the lovely USB to serial to rollover adapters 
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Nov 4, 2014 06:09
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Completed a penetration test of a client's mobile application and found:
The clients response? They accept the risk on all vulnerabilities. It's too expensive to rewrite the application to fix them. 
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Nov 4, 2014 06:40
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edit ^ How can a company be cognitive enough to pay for a pentest but not write in a loving password checkerer? The Melbourne cup (Horse race) ran today. Every year we put it on for the staff to watch. This year I couldn't get a signal through our godawful AV setup. Turns out the TV signal runs through an old analog VCR, and my area has retired analog transmission. To do list: purchase digital tuner for boardroom.
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Nov 4, 2014 06:42
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bossy lady posted:
It's too expensive to fix issues like those but it's just fine to pay for a pentest. What the gently caress is wrong with people.
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Nov 4, 2014 07:01
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KaneTW posted:It's too expensive to fix issues like those but it's just fine to pay for a pentest. Could be a requirement for their ISO certification or whatever to do testing, but there's a loophole since the cert agency just assumed that reasonable loving people would act on the results of those tests.
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Nov 4, 2014 07:09
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Applications people doing their very best to dump problem on us. This one guy actually got his poo poo pushed in over this. He's become well known for just trying to format his problems away, done by the friendly neighborhood desktop guys. Program not working correctly? Format! Server's actually not even working? Format the desktop! He got put on blast over email and told to actually look at problems and talk to users before making it our problem. If I ever took any joy in schadenfreude, this would be the time. It would be nice if he were going to abdicate troubleshooting and foist it on us, to give an account or something so I don't have to keep bugging the user while I do my trial and error thing.
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Nov 4, 2014 07:13
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KaneTW posted:It's too expensive to fix issues like those but it's just fine to pay for a pentest. The client is a subsidiary of a larger / richer company. Daddy warbucks paid for the pen test.
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Nov 4, 2014 07:20
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bossy lady posted:They accept the risk on all vulnerabilities. As long as you have this in writing, have a drink when they show up on Ars Technica I guess? 
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Nov 4, 2014 08:21
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Manslaughter posted:Apparently it starts in spring and ends in fall, which always confused me, wouldn't you want to save daylight when there is less of it? Yeah I don't like waking up with the sun up for an hour and then coming home in the dark. I'd rather we move forward an hour right now and leave it there.
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Nov 4, 2014 14:50
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bossy lady posted:Completed a penetration test of a client's mobile application and found: Who wrote it? Internally? Some fancy 'app studio'? Some foreigner from rentacoder?
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Nov 4, 2014 15:42
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why even bother to do a pentest then? They are worse off now than before, at least before they could have claimed ignorance. Now they are willfully putting severely damaging software out there.
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Nov 4, 2014 16:55
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Coredump posted:Yeah I don't like waking up with the sun up for an hour and then coming home in the dark. I'd rather we move forward an hour right now and leave it there. Yeah I'm pretty grumpy about this, and my kids are all sorts of confused. I work a 9-5:30 usually and live close to work so I usually roll out of bed at 8AM. The lovely part is I like to take my kids to the park in my neighborhood after work so my wife can make dinner in peace, but now it's pitch loving black at 6PM and that's not possible. Thanks DST!
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Nov 4, 2014 18:00
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skipdogg posted:Yeah I'm pretty grumpy about this, and my kids are all sorts of confused. I work a 9-5:30 usually and live close to work so I usually roll out of bed at 8AM. The lovely part is I like to take my kids to the park in my neighborhood after work so my wife can make dinner in peace, but now it's pitch loving black at 6PM and that's not possible. Thanks DST!
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Nov 4, 2014 18:11
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I don't know poo poo about it except it's loving with my life and everyone seems to agree it's stupid.
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Nov 4, 2014 18:13
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They just shitcanned my coworker over high school-level drama that isn't even true. Our IT department is now me plus a contractor here 3 days a week. I'm pretty upset. I guess now I'm surprised that I'm even still here after the whole desk debacle.
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Nov 4, 2014 18:24
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skipdogg posted:Yeah I'm pretty grumpy about this, and my kids are all sorts of confused. I work a 9-5:30 usually and live close to work so I usually roll out of bed at 8AM. The lovely part is I like to take my kids to the park in my neighborhood after work so my wife can make dinner in peace, but now it's pitch loving black at 6PM and that's not possible. Thanks DST! On the flip side, it's better than it being pitch black at 6AM when you're trying to drive to work with Boston drivers in the snow. Also farm hours best hours
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Nov 4, 2014 18:29
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Sirotan posted:They just shitcanned my coworker over high school-level drama that isn't even true. Our IT department is now me plus a contractor here 3 days a week. I'm pretty upset. desk debacle? Did I miss something?
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nitrogen posted:desk debacle? Did I miss something? The standing desk thing where nobody would give them a straight answer e: this mewse fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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Nov 4, 2014 18:44
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Sirotan posted:They just shitcanned my coworker over high school-level drama that isn't even true. Our IT department is now me plus a contractor here 3 days a week. I'm pretty upset. You know what to do. 
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rolleyes posted:Combined with cheap-rear end beige box cases, I swear to god that was worse than sticking your hand in a bucket of razor wire. I remember the first computer I ever built, it was for my dad. It was all parts sourced from the old phone-book thickness Computer Shopper. My hands and arms looked like I'd fought a wild badger. I got viciously ill for a week afterward, too.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:23
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Today I discovered that Trumpet Winsock is still a thing. You can, as of V5.0, use it to add IPv6 support to your box running Windows 95, 98 or NT4. It's shareware so you're supposed to pay for it, like anyone ever paid for it in the 90s!
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Nov 4, 2014 22:00
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Lum posted:Today I discovered that Trumpet Winsock is still a thing. Did anyone pay for shareware? Ever? I'm sure that if you had a computer used at the Vatican in the late 90's, there would be a winzip crack on the desktop.
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CitizenKain posted:Did anyone pay for shareware? Ever? Have you seen the price and feature bloat in the latest version of WinZip. It's £35/$50 per user! poo poo that pisses me off. Some of my government customers deploy that poo poo on every desktop, no idea how much that costs because it's the obligatory Enterprise Edition with  support.
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Nov 4, 2014 22:15
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It pisses me off even more when 3rd parties use winzip to zip up data they send to us on hard drives in such a way that I can't unzip it without winzip. Guys...use anything but winzip, please! 
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AlternateAccount posted:I remember the first computer I ever built, it was for my dad. It was all parts sourced from the old phone-book thickness Computer Shopper. My hands and arms looked like I'd fought a wild badger. I got viciously ill for a week afterward, too. I still have a scar on my hand from my first 386DX (not SuX lol) case. It's like those german guys who would get dueling scars and rub charcoal, pine sap, whatever into them to make them stick. Except in this case it was probably powdered aluminum, cooked off capacitor components, and probably brake fluid or something.
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Erwin posted:It pisses me off even more when 3rd parties use winzip to zip up data they send to us on hard drives in such a way that I can't unzip it without winzip. Guys...use anything but winzip, please! IMO if it's not a *nix app (in which case use GZipped Tarballs) or a Mac app (in which case use DMG) I say anything other than a plain zip file is probably the wrong choice for distribution. Every OS that matters has basic zip support built in to the base install. Sure, RAR, 7zip, BZ2, and the like have their advantages in certain situations but it's really hard for that to outweigh the annoyance of having to download and install some random third party tool because whoever made the archive likes a special snowflake format.
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I did. I was the guy who paid for WinZip. I also paid for a dice-rolling app. This was back when we still said the whole word: "application".
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Ynglaur posted:I did. I was the guy who paid for WinZip. I also paid for a dice-rolling app. This was back when we still said the whole word: "application". I never paid for Winzip, but I did end up paying for WinRar and mIRC.
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You can make WinRAR stop complaining by just deleting the resource key for the nag dialog that pops up on program start. On the bright side, there's plenty of utterly pointless "apps" now, they're just in the actual device app stores now.
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Nov 5, 2014 03:02
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Just use 7zip though. No one ever has reason to create a RAR, but 7zip can read them and every other compression pretty much and it's 100% free.
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I learned a very valuable lesson today to never tell "that guy" about GNS3. No, I won't give you IOS copies from our TFTP server. No, I won't help you set it up beyond telling you it's easy to Google for. No, you can't use my special-flower Linux box for IOU. Jesus loving christ, it was every 5 minutes. I don't have high hopes for him and his CCNA.
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Nov 5, 2014 04:19
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Erwin posted:It pisses me off even more when 3rd parties use winzip to zip up data they send to us on hard drives in such a way that I can't unzip it without winzip. Guys...use anything but winzip, please! I thought a zip file was a zip file. What is winzip doing differently now?
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Stealthgerbil posted:I thought a zip file was a zip file. What is winzip doing differently now? If you encrypt with current winzip you get a zip2 file or something that is completely proprietary
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Yeah I've never encountered a non password protected archive that can't be opened by any number of programs. 7zip my particular app of choice. Remember the days of having winrar and winace on your computer? Ahh, winrar and winace, I miss you guys. Also I miss trillian.
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I paid for Trillian :tea: That was back when I was still mainly using ICQ but some people had started using MSN Messenger. Bugger running two clients!
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:Yeah I've never encountered a non password protected archive that can't be opened by any number of programs. 7zip my particular app of choice. I still use winrar when I am in windows. 
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ratbert90 posted:I still use winrar when I am in windows. There is zero reason to use it over 7zip
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