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FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

They kick up stones, are very loud, might throw 150lbs of tire tread at you, but I wouldn't say they're any more unpredictable than any other driver. Due to reasons of momentum, its pretty predictable that they're going to merge onto the highway where they want to. They might be governed to 61 mph, and you might have some terrified person or a truck from another fleet passing them at 62 mph.

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revmoo
May 25, 2006

#basta
Trucks are really easy to drive around EXCEPT the scenario that happened to me last week. I was passing him and he swerved over into my lane without looking. This is on a two-lane interstate with no shoulder. In that situation it's a physics question of "will my brakes get me behind this guy before his trailer finishes swinging into me?"

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

revmoo posted:

Trucks are really easy to drive around EXCEPT the scenario that happened to me last week. I was passing him and he swerved over into my lane without looking. This is on a two-lane interstate with no shoulder. In that situation it's a physics question of "will my brakes get me behind this guy before his trailer finishes swinging into me?"

Exactly. They may accelerate and decelerate slowly and predictably, but turning or merging are entirely different stories

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

The Door Frame posted:

Exactly. They may accelerate and decelerate slowly and predictably, but turning or merging are entirely different stories

Big trucks want to keep going a constant speed. From this lemma, we can derive a handful of rules about driving around big trucks.

- Big trucks would rather swerve than panic brake
-- Don't drive next to them you idiot.
-- Pass with caution, making sure the driver has had time to see you in his/her mirrors.

- Big trucks would rather change lanes than brake
-- They will get out of the far right lane when passing on-ramps. Learn to anticipate this.
-- They will pass slower big trucks even though the speed differential might be .00001 mph. Learn to anticipate this.
-- In both of the above cases, they will signal for way longer than a passenger car would.

Seriously. Big trucks are the most predictable vehicles on the interstate. I'd much rather drive around them than any group of random idiots.

Wamsutta
Sep 9, 2001

Safety Dance posted:

-- They will pass slower big trucks even though the speed differential might be .00001 mph. Learn to anticipate this.

On a two-lane highway this is honestly the loving worst and will one day probably kill me as a result of my own road-rage aneurysm. I80 through PA is a god drat nightmare because you probably spend half of your journey stuck behind a truck passing an ever so slightly slower truck.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Suck it up, Nancy. Hang out in the left lane and don't let dickbags cut in front of you, then revel in the open road once the slightly-faster truck completes the pass.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

That's why I take I-90 instead of I-94 when driving across the country, I-90 gets quite a bit less truck traffic. I-94 can be endless trucks passing each other if you get unlucky.

I-40 and I-80 can be nasty too but if you need to go more south they're really the only options.

CharlieWhiskey
Aug 18, 2005

everything, all the time

this is the world

Safety Dance posted:

Seriously. Big trucks are the most predictable vehicles on the interstate. I'd much rather drive around them than any group of random idiots.
QFT. Whenever I'm on the expressway outside of the city, I feel like the only sane ones are me and the big rigs. The gentle giants and I have to deal with all of the spastic shitbrains.

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

Is that intersection only controlled by stop signs? Because, that's kind of messed up.

Controlled side streets entering a through street? Yeah, that's nothing unusual.

Brain-dead idiots thinking it's alternating-movement (everyone take turns! :v:) or just "gently caress you I'm going"? Yeah, that's nothing unusual.

Brain-dead idiots deciding to poo poo up the flow of traffic on the through streets by stopping just so the side-street traffic can go? Yeah, that's nothing unusual.

:suicide:

Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...

Actually this reminds me of something I noticed while I was on holiday in Florida. Everywhere I looked on the highways there was always a substantial amount of tyre debris to be seen. Seriously, whats the deal with that?

I literally saw more tyre wreckage during two weeks in the US than I have in my entire life in the UK.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

Ludicro posted:

Actually this reminds me of something I noticed while I was on holiday in Florida. Everywhere I looked on the highways there was always a substantial amount of tyre debris to be seen. Seriously, whats the deal with that?

I literally saw more tyre wreckage during two weeks in the US than I have in my entire life in the UK.

OTR trucks tend to retread tires until the carcass is toast, rather than buy new tires all the time. Retreads are usually a cheap poo poo job, and likely to separate while going down the highway and leave a gator behind. High summer heat makes it worse.

davebo
Nov 15, 2006

Parallel lines do meet, but they do it incognito
College Slice

AncientTV posted:

This one's even worse. I've personally witnessed three accidents and dozens of near misses here:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/1...5381270613746d7

I thought it was funny this dangerous intersection was on "Race Track Rd." but after scrolling east a bit was disappointed that it's just a horse track.

revmoo
May 25, 2006

#basta

Ludicro posted:

Actually this reminds me of something I noticed while I was on holiday in Florida. Everywhere I looked on the highways there was always a substantial amount of tyre debris to be seen. Seriously, whats the deal with that?

I literally saw more tyre wreckage during two weeks in the US than I have in my entire life in the UK.

I went to the casino the other day and it's on a two-lane road out into the country a bit, and one thing I noticed is that the lane driving AWAY from the casino had so many ABS stop skid marks that they overlapped by the hundreds. The entire 10 mile drive. The other lane was almost entirely clear. Terrifying.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

EightBit posted:

OTR trucks tend to retread tires until the carcass is toast, rather than buy new tires all the time. Retreads are usually a cheap poo poo job, and likely to separate while going down the highway and leave a gator behind. High summer heat makes it worse.

This is pretty much a thing of the past these days, hell I have put like 60-70k on two sets of retreads for my jeeps and never had an issue.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
doublepostin'

"C/R replaced battery, car still will not start"


I'm honestly unsure which terminal is causing more of an issue, the positive wiring is loving ragged. It probably caused the initial complaint...

AncientTV
Jun 1, 2006

for sale custom bike over a billion invested

College Slice

davebo posted:

I thought it was funny this dangerous intersection was on "Race Track Rd." but after scrolling east a bit was disappointed that it's just a horse track.

Dog track, and a closed one at that :v:

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Safety Dance posted:

Suck it up, Nancy. Hang out in the left lane and don't let dickbags cut in front of you, then revel in the open road once the slightly-faster truck completes the pass.

...two hours later

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





kastein posted:

doublepostin'

"C/R replaced battery, car still will not start"


I'm honestly unsure which terminal is causing more of an issue, the positive wiring is loving ragged. It probably caused the initial complaint...

My brothers did this once when they changed a battery in the dark. :downs:

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

atomicthumbs posted:

...two hours later

It's also a much different case if a big rig is monopolizing a very limited passing lane on a curvy road, all so they can go 2 km/h faster. I'm sorry, that's just loving ignorant and anyone who does it is a prick.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

kastein posted:

This is pretty much a thing of the past these days, hell I have put like 60-70k on two sets of retreads for my jeeps and never had an issue.

I don't know what kind of 18-wheelers you drive, but I've personally seen it happen a few times from 18-wheelers. I've seen some small cars toss a tread too, but most of the gators I see on the road are too big for smaller vehicles; as in, the full tread.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

EightBit posted:

I don't know what kind of 18-wheelers you drive, but I've personally seen it happen a few times from 18-wheelers. I've seen some small cars toss a tread too, but most of the gators I see on the road are too big for smaller vehicles; as in, the full tread.

They also do a hell of a lot more miles on those tires (hundreds of thousands before they even need regrooving, IIRC, nevermind retreading) and have 18 tires instead of 4.

I would put a lot more blame on underinflation than retread quality when it comes to delamination. Nothing heats a tire up like running it low on air, and nothing fucks up rubber like overheating - aside from chemical damage.

E: this somewhat corroborates this, although it is marketing and thus should be taken with a grain of salt. http://www.bridgestonetrucktires.com/us_eng/real/magazines/ra_v14_i1/ra_doc.asp. On the other hand, it is a tire manufacturer saying it may be possible to run tires for longer before recapping and to recap more times before scrapping, which is basically the opposite of an effective sales tactic, so I am inclined to believe it.

kastein fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Nov 12, 2014

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

That's one way to get your friends to stop asking if you'll help them move.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

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Poor mountaineer barely kept his family fed
Then one day he was shootin at some food
When up from the ground came a bubblin crude

Oil that is
Black gold, Texas tea

Next thing you know old Jed's a millionaire
His kinfolk said Jed move away from there
They said California is the place you want to be
So he loaded up the truck and moved to Beverly

Hills, that is
Swimming pools, movie stars

MiniFoo
Dec 25, 2006

METHAMPHETAMINE



Dude outside my apartment bedroom has been chatting away with his bro while his goddamn Mustang idles with the door open... for over forty-five minutes. These are the people you share an environment with.

JukeboxHerostratus
Nov 25, 2009

I've got a brother that does this. Turns on his car and just sits there idling. And he has the nerve to complain when he has to get more gas.

Some men, you just can't reach.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

There's an old dude that lives next to me with a giant diesel truck, he'll consistently idle it for 30-45 minutes before going anywhere. Not just during the winter (where a long warm up is sometimes justified) but all summer as well.

I guess he just loves going to the gas station. :iiam:

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Aluminum block superiority. :smug: My warmup time is less than two miles or 10 minutes of idling.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.
The best way to warm up most engines is gentle driving, especially for turbodiesels :ssh:

dee eight
Dec 18, 2002

The Spirit
of Maynard

:catdrugs:

EightBit posted:

The best way to warm up most engines is gentle driving, especially for turbodiesels :ssh:

When the outside temp hits single digits or less, most people don't give a gently caress. They just want a warm cabin to get into.

That being said, gentle driving is important because idling for 10 minutes does nothing for warming up the tires/rear end/rest of the drive train anyways.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Heated garages, get one. It's standard equipment in the great white north and it makes life so much better.. for humans anyways. I'm not convinced the car gives a poo poo either way.

a primate
Jun 2, 2010

xzzy posted:

Heated garages, get one. It's standard equipment in the great white north and it makes life so much better.. for humans anyways. I'm not convinced the car gives a poo poo either way.

You must live really far up north. No one has them here in (southern) Ontario, and Quebecers just use those white temporary tent garage things.

dee eight
Dec 18, 2002

The Spirit
of Maynard

:catdrugs:

xzzy posted:

Heated garages, get one.

hahahahaha You think I have enough room in my garage to fit a car.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.
What kind of pussy are you that you can't stand five minutes in the cold to warm up your engine properly?

dee eight
Dec 18, 2002

The Spirit
of Maynard

:catdrugs:

EightBit posted:

What kind of pussy are you that you can't stand five minutes in the cold to warm up your engine properly?

-50f


Hang on, I'll find the old post and quote the relevant part.

dee eight posted:

I'm talkin' cold. Cold enough that it was a really good idea to take the battery out of the car and bring it inside at night. Cold enough that I could make the woodstove glow cherry red and the temp inside the house barely cracked 60 F. If you know what a Siberian Express is, picture one with three extra locomotives and a 3 mile long string of freight behind it.

For a solid week, temps at night hit -40 or less (I saw -50 once) and it warmed up to -30ish during the day.

dee eight posted:

You kids today wouldn't know what cold is if it crawled up your rear end and froze your colon tight to your spine. Back in my day, cold didn't gently caress around. Nosirree Bob Cattail. Hell, I remember one time it got down to -180 below absolute negative zero. It was so cold that the fire in my woodstove froze and I had to chip off pieces of flame and rub 'em together to get it burning again. My corn likker froze solid, too. I had to drink it like a popsicle. The worst part, though, was using the outhouse. If I didn't eat 3 pounds of habanero peppers every day, my bunghole would freeze shut everytime I took a crap.

Don't tell me about being cold, sonny.


dee eight fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Nov 12, 2014

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

EightBit posted:

What kind of pussy are you that you can't stand five minutes in the cold to warm up your engine properly?

The kind that has an eight minute commute...

I let my car warm up in the winter solely so it reaches temp before I get to work and shut it off. I know it's not the best thing but between some idling and never getting the engine warm, I go with idling.

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

revmoo posted:

I went to the casino the other day and it's on a two-lane road out into the country a bit, and one thing I noticed is that the lane driving AWAY from the casino had so many ABS stop skid marks that they overlapped by the hundreds. The entire 10 mile drive. The other lane was almost entirely clear. Terrifying.

What's the implication here? People lost their shirts, and then angry-braked randomly during the drive home?

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Gamblers tend to be drunk as poo poo by the time they're rich broke as gently caress.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Devor posted:

What's the implication here? People lost their shirts, and then angry-braked randomly during the drive home?

often, casinos give free drinks

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Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Safety Dance posted:

-- In both of the above cases, they will signal for way longer than a passenger car would.

In my experience, this is only true if all passenger cars on the road aren't using turn signals at all. I don't know how many times I've had to slam onto the brakes and/or dive off into another lane or onto the shoulder because a truck driver decided to just make the lane change and use their turn signal once they're already half way into the lane they're changing into.

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