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So scum don't know each other. What do we think is the advantage for them to balance this out? I'm not sure it would be more vanilla mafia than normal as the gimmick would then become SKs who have to share a kill. I'm thinking stronger powers for the mafia instead. This has the additional problem of town powers being devalued by role blockers, drivers etc. It could just be they get more shots of their powers. The randomly selected night is interesting. Combined with not knowing each other it opens up the possibility of scum killing their own members.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 14:48 |
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Dugong posted:So scum don't know each other. What do we think is the advantage for them to balance this out? More shots, better powers, greater numbers - it could be any or all of them, given they are blind not even the scum themselves would actually know.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 15:04 |
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I'm talking about this game where Met lurked the entire time and then launched personal attacks against winvirus and me when we tried to get him to play. You could arguably excuse his play because he was scum, but then he double downed on it in end game by attacking us again for calling him on it. ninja: read the whole page, not just the post I linked.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 15:05 |
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Ixtlilton posted:I have heard Ernie say before that he only claims SK when he's not town. But then I read some more and he claimed it before he got his role pm. Why would you shoot Somberbrero? He's just chilling. Also, Monathin is town, thank me later. You could vig Met I don't remember him all that well has he posted? Apparently he used an incorrect gender pronoun and then was a dick about it. I'm also going to a hockey game tomorrow with some people and maybe it'll be okay but I'm worried our team sucks this year because all of Michigan's teams suck this year. We'll see. Ixtlilton posted:In my brief skim of Met's play in a Star Trek game he didn't seem that hard to read or as bad as you guys are saying. Can I get linked to objectionable material? These posts serve no purpose but try to look like they're helpful.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 15:06 |
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merk posted:I'm talking about this game where Met lurked the entire time and then launched personal attacks against winvirus and me when we tried to get him to play. You could arguably excuse his play because he was scum, but then he double downed on it in end game by attacking us again for calling him on it. nobody cares
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 15:38 |
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Dugong posted:So scum don't know each other. What do we think is the advantage for them to balance this out? These kinds of questions are incredibly unhelpful. The only people who would know are scum and they're not going to mess up. Town might (and often does in these situations) reveal their roles or other private knowledge to the scum in trying to "figure it out."
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 15:44 |
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HiipFire posted:nobody cares I care.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 15:45 |
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Ok let me rephrase, this is a loving mafia game and I'm not interested in your drama.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 15:52 |
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HiipFire posted:Ok let me rephrase, Except this isn't just drama. If someone is going to be a lurker or a distraction to town through their behaviour then best to get rid of them as soon as possible. I don't know if Met is scum, but I know that the game will be a higher quality without him in it. ##vote Met
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 16:22 |
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See while I don't disagree at all in theory, I still feel like we should be trying to actually hunt scum. Removing worthless, obnoxious, or toxic players is the job of vigilantes (and good-hearted scum), not the town. Sidebar but I literally just realized how often I split infinitives and now it's my new project to stop STARTING NEXT POST.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 16:24 |
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EccoRaven posted:Removing worthless, obnoxious, or toxic players is the job of vigilantes (and good-hearted scum), not the town. Which is why my comments were appropriate in the vigilante discussion. What do you think of Ixt?
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 16:30 |
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Lifehack - Next time you see something you don't care about don't make the effort to comment on it as it invites further responses on the topic. I don't like the way Hiipfire is about and posting but exclusively about how he wants other people to stop talking about things he's not interested in rather than bringing up stuff that he thinks is worth discussing/doing anything useful ##vote HiipFire
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 16:31 |
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merk posted:Which is why my comments were appropriate in the vigilante discussion. The second quote you posted bothered me when I first read it, since I don't think anyone was actually arguing Met being a shitheel actually makes him scum in this game; it felt like Ixt was just browsing the thread very casually and wanted to appear helpful. I confess though that I am disinclined vote for him day 1 since he helped me out in a pinch back in September without complaining once.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 16:32 |
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Puntification posted:I don't like the way Hiipfire is about and posting but exclusively about how he wants other people to stop talking about things he's not interested in rather than bringing up stuff that he thinks is worth discussing/doing anything useful ##vote HiipFire
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 16:44 |
I've kept up to date on the thread and have read all the poets thus far, but any hunches I have are kept close to my chest for now. I knew Ecco was bluffing you all, though.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 17:29 |
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Hark, I am Krak, son of Kra, son of Ra. Kra has gone to join our ancestors in Terrordon's gullet, such is a position of honor as he shall become one with the mighty soul of Terrordon. Such kindness is undeserved, as Terrordon was well displeased by news that some found His "gimmick" uninteresting. As all know, Terrordon is the biggest monster, and as such the most interesting.merk posted:In other news, this dude is scum. ##vote Ixt The Beast's cries for blood please Terrordon. Ixtlilton is obviously small, speaks Terrordon. Terrordon has not smashed an Aztec for seasons beyond seasons, but he remembers it fondly. Small beings should concern themselves with suggestions as to who Terrordon should next squish, not whinge about who should not be squished. Such pleas are futile, as the children often say "All unworthy souls shall be smashed in time." Terrordon itches to smash Met beneath his incomprehensible bulk, but Terrordon is ancient beyond knowing and has learned to pace His smashing. ##vote Ixtlilton EccoRaven posted:See while I don't disagree at all in theory, I still feel like we should be trying to actually hunt scum. Terrordon spits on your nattering, bird. His blessed expectorant is currently dissolving the schoolhouse. Terrordon knows that such behavior is anti-monster, regardless of the monster's intention. EccoRaven posted:I've still got a sinking feeling about Somber tbh. Terrordon has instructed me to suggest that such a sinking feeling is common when comparing one's insignificance to that which is the majesty of Terrordon. Dr. Hurt posted:Asiina don't be ablist. Terrodon is so big. Imagine him trying to type a keyboard. you'd be out one keyboard! Keyboards are expensive! Terrordon has to have his followers write for him so we can understand what he's saying. Would you rather he lurk? Because I sure wouldn't! Such discrimination is unfortunately not beyond the experience of even one as colossal as Terrordon. He now Dr. Hurt posted:Also I am just gonna go out on a limb and guess that Terrordon is BP or something and that's why he's assuming this larger than life presence. Well either that or Terrordon is a VT and he's just having a blast with his great name. Hah! Even I, Krak, herald of Terrordon laugh at this. Terrordon has proof against missiles fired by rude and hateful soldiers, so of course He has proof against bullets. Terrordon's wrath is matched only by his generosity, He has instructed me to offer you a boon for amusing Him so. This is an honor few have ever been allowed, cherish your day Armored Arachnid.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:15 |
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what's the point of saying you have secret hunches?
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:16 |
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Monathin posted:I've kept up to date on the thread and have read all the poets thus far, but any hunches I have are kept close to my chest for now. referring to the hunches in this post
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:17 |
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Ixts posts sound more like a person wanting to direct discussion than a person offering up their opinions. ##vote ixt
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:30 |
Good morning everyone. I still haven't developed particularly strong feelings about most folks in here, but that's okay, the day is still young. I think Somber is funny, though, and merk is smart. I also think that Met is scummy IRL if not in-game. Seriously, is it that much work to apologize when you use the wrong pronoun and correct your behavior? For real man, be a decent human being for a change. Okay, that was my story, kthnxbye.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:30 |
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I came to chill out for a bit in my first game in months and chatting with people makes me scum, got it.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:32 |
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Also met is a lovely person, asiina is town because it would be too uncharacteristic of scum to push a cuddle on met with no reasoning, merk is probably town, ecco was obviously lying because that role would never exist in a cpig game and also there was no n0 Can someone quote for me the part of the op that says scum don't know each other?
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:33 |
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30 seconds, Ernest.CapitalistPig posted:Scum will NOT know who the other scum are and cannot talk to each other out of thread, The scum kill will consist of all members of the scumteam pming me a kill choice each night, the majority will win, in the event of no majority I will rng the kill from the choices presented.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:34 |
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Ixtlilton posted:I came to chill out for a bit in my first game in months and chatting with people makes me scum, got it. I feel really bad because I just came out from my secret retirement for this game too and I really didn't want to target you but you are scummy
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:35 |
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Ernie. posted:I feel really bad because I just came out from my secret retirement for this game too and I really didn't want to target you but you are scummy No I'm not, Ernie.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:35 |
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And if you actually felt bad you wouldn't do it. I'm like 98% certain you've held off of targetting players D1 of large games for reasons before.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:37 |
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So am I to understand that there no trackers or watchers in the game? Game balance would say that there can't be. By the responses to eccos posting it seems like there aren't (m)any vigilantes either. Cops wouldn't work because how can they function proper. What roles would even go into the game?
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:38 |
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Ixtlilton posted:And if you actually felt bad you wouldn't do it. I'm like 98% certain you've held off of targetting players D1 of large games for reasons before. I'm currently debating unvoting tbh. Debating Debating Debated ##unvote
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:40 |
Well, Ecco has failed us. It's time for Meinberg to shine. You can just call me a Social Justice... Vigilante. ##shoot Met
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:40 |
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I kind of want to act scummy so the scum team thinks I'm scum and avoids nightkilling me.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:40 |
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Also, how is directing discussion towards vodka and stuff people posted for the hour or so I was there scummy?
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:40 |
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Ernie. posted:Also met is a lovely person, asiina is town because it would be too uncharacteristic of scum to push a cuddle on met with no reasoning, merk is probably town, ecco was obviously lying because that role would never exist in a cpig game and also there was no n0 reading the game enough to have opinions on posters and while conveniently not reading the op and dropping something that makes it seem like he couldn't possibly be scum no sir i don't like it, not one bit ##vote Ernie.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:40 |
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Meinberg posted:Well, Ecco has failed us. It's time for Meinberg to shine. Meinberg for President 2016
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:40 |
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Votecount for Day 1 Ernie. (2): EccoRaven, The Science of Suck Poison Mushroom (2): AtrociousToaster, Poison Mushroom Ixtlilton (2): merk, Somberbrero, Ernie., Met (2): Met, Asiina Puntification (1): EXAKT Science, HiipFire (1): Puntification Somberbrero (0): Puntification, EXAKT Science (0): Puntification, Poison Mushroom, EccoRaven (0): Asiina, AtrociousToaster (0): Puntification, Not Voting (13): bowmore, Dr. Hurt, Dugong, Ernie., fiery_valkyrie, HiipFire, Ixtlilton, Mad Rancher, Meinberg, Monathin, Motley, Opopanax, Tremendous Taste With 23 alive, it's 12 votes to lynch. The current deadline is November 17th, 2014 at midnight EST -- that's in about 2 days, 11 hours.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:41 |
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Hold up ya'll. Flip incoming.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:42 |
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Ixtlilton posted:Also, how is directing discussion towards vodka and stuff people posted for the hour or so I was there scummy? Not the vodka Your opening statement of what I'd do vs what I wouldn't do. It didn't read to me like an organic thing ixt would say while scum hunting. More like a thing ixt would say if ixt wanted to sound like ixt scum hunting.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:43 |
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also lol meinberg
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:43 |
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I love you, Meinberg.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:45 |
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The Science of Suck posted:reading the game enough to have opinions on posters and while conveniently not reading the op and dropping something that makes it seem like he couldn't possibly be scum Did you miss the post I made that gives away that I think the op is lying because otherwise the game can't be balanced classically or reasonably?
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:46 |
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Ernie. posted:Did you miss the post I made that gives away that I think the op is lying because otherwise the game can't be balanced classically or reasonably? i probably just ignored it because i don't care about setup speculation and also it speaks nothing to my point about you paying attention to one part of the game while seemingly not another part that conveniently lets you townslip
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:53 |