Doctor Who series 8 (34): Eyebrows! Eyebrows since the dawn of Time!

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MrL_JaKiri: Sep 23, 2003; A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Five, call it Spare Parts

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Detective No. 27 posted:

Hey, I have a decent idea for a cyberman story. Tell me if it has any legs. So the Doctor lands in a star system made up of dying planets. Cybermen have been converting the people on each planet one by one. Most planets resist at first, but it's becoming apparent that they'll be converted. By the time it comes to whatever planet The Doctor ends up on, the residents are considering on non-resistance and embracing conversion. They're doomed either way, so they decide that survival might be better than extinction. I can't decide which Doctor would be best suited for it, but I'm leaning on Eight.

That'd be an interesting reversal. The Doctor comes upon a people who don't want to be saved by the Cybermen.

"Resist them, Doctor? You think we should just lay down and let our people die? Our history die?"
"But you won't be you anymore. It won't be your history. You'll be emotionless drones."
"But they will remember us."

Creepy.
I think only Big Finish could pull it off, though. It's not bombastic enough for modern TVWho.

# ? Nov 14, 2014 16:31

Bicyclops: Aug 27, 2004

If you replace the people with Mondasians, you guys really are basically describing Spare Parts.

# ? Nov 14, 2014 16:44

MrL_JaKiri: Sep 23, 2003; A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Bicyclops posted:

If you replace the people with Mondasians, you guys really are basically describing Spare Parts.

Really???

# ? Nov 14, 2014 16:47

McGann: May 19, 2003; Get up you son of a bitch! 'Cause Mickey loves you!

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Really???

Hey that sorta sounds like an audio I've heard before, but the name is on the tip of my tongue...

# ? Nov 14, 2014 17:11

Cerv: Sep 14, 2004; This is a silly post with little news value.

Mondassians are people too

# ? Nov 14, 2014 17:41

vegetables: Mar 10, 2012

Detective No. 27 posted:

Hey, I have a decent idea for a cyberman story. Tell me if it has any legs. So the Doctor lands in a star system made up of dying planets. Cybermen have been converting the people on each planet one by one. Most planets resist at first, but it's becoming apparent that they'll be converted. By the time it comes to whatever planet The Doctor ends up on, the residents are considering on non-resistance and embracing conversion. They're doomed either way, so they decide that survival might be better than extinction. I can't decide which Doctor would be best suited for it, but I'm leaning on Eight.

I've had a similar idea as well: I've always wanted the Cybermen to get a chance to make themselves sound almost reasonable in a story that's slightly ambivalent over whether cyberconversion is always a bad idea. I don't think it'd have to be similar to Spare Parts at all; in that story everyone's horrified by the Cybermen despite mechanical augmentation being commonplace, in the same way as how we're all horrified by them here despite having glasses and pacemakers. I think the key would be to discard the idea of survival completely, and have characters that just straight up think being emotionless and immortal is a preferable state of affairs.

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GonSmithe: Apr 25, 2010; Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.

Jerusalem posted:

The Divergent Universe arc allegedly ended early because Big Finish was concerned about potential new listeners attracted by the revival of the television series finding themselves in the midst of the weird goings-on of the Doctor's adventures in a universe without linear time. If that was the case, then Terror Firma is a weird as hell way of marking the 8th Doctor's first return to the "regular" universe. Full of heavy references to the classic series as well as introducing two never before seen old friends of the Doctor, the retroactive continuity is tidily handled but far from new-listener friendly. The emotional weight of the reveal of what has happened to the Doctor and his companions is lacking because of the people/events it references, and the little bit about Davros' own connection to the Doctor makes no sense whatsoever considering the nature of the Divergent Universe. Verisimilitude is a hell of a thing to be talking about when referencing the adventures of an ancient body-changing alien who travels through time and space in a telephone box that is bigger on the inside, but I found it difficult to swallow these reveals.

At the end of The Next Life, the Doctor was unsure if they'd been returned to their own universe or not, until he stepped through a doorway and found himself surrounded by - what else! - Daleks and a delighted Davros. It was a fantastic way to mark that the Doctor was back, but things quickly take a weird sideways turn from that point on. Charlie and C'Rizz are taken away by the Daleks while the Doctor is left to be interrogated by Davros, who seems oddly informed about the Doctor's recent activities and was apparently expecting him. It quickly becomes apparent that Davros is even more imbalanced than usual, cutting between his usual ranting and dropping into a deeper, booming voice. He alternates between insisting as he often does that he is NOT a Dalek, before booming out that he is the Emperor Dalek. Between his ranting, he almost desperately pleads with the Doctor to help him find who he is looking for, and who he is looking for is.... Davros. This is the Davros from directly after the events of Remembrance of the Daleks, last survivor of the 7th Doctor's manipulations which lead to the destruction of Skaro. So where did these Daleks come from? Like he would in Stolen Earth, Davros has recreated the Daleks, but this time from new genetic stock - human beings, this New Skaro is the planet Earth.

That's not all too much of a shock, we've seen humans turned into Daleks before in spite of their hardwired belief in genetic purity, and the Daleks have invaded the planet before. The real shock is in the reveal that Davros - mentally unbalanced after yet another long stretch of isolation - has actually encountered the 8th Doctor before, and successfully wiped the Doctor's memory of the event. Yes, shockingly Paul McGann in another story involving memory loss! I'll throw the following in spoilers, but basically it involves some retroactive continuity involving the 8th Doctor's adventures in the audios: It seems that the Doctor once traveled with a brother/sister duo called Gemma and Samson, who were captured by Davros and experimented on, turned into unwilling slaves who gave Davros access to the TARDIS, allowing him to subdue and operate on the Doctor AND the TARDIS. Wiping the Doctor's memory of the event, as well as his journeys with Gemma and Samson, Davros has been able to keep track of the Doctor's adventures since that time, INCLUDING within the Divergent Universe.

That latter part makes no real sense. The Divergent Universe was an entirely separate universe, a place accessible at only one point in space and "time" from the regular universe. For Davros to have been able to follow along indicates a connection between the universes, and if such a thing existed then the Divergents or Rassilon or the Doctor himself would have been able to find it and follow it back. It's another example of Big Finish not quite grasping or executing the concept of the Divergent Universe successfully, and I also can't imagine that Davros would be aware of a reality WITHOUT Time Lords in it and NOT decide that it was ripe for conquest by his Daleks.

I think part of the problem is in the author - I was struggling to articulate why this story didn't work until I discovered the author was Joseph "Misery Porn" Lidster, whose work I have been less than impressed with in the past. Lidster seems to have a tendency to want to make things as miserable and hopeless as possible, while also being unable to resist playing around with the Doctor's past with "revelations" of prior events that have never been referenced before and make no sense within the context of how any of the characters have acted before or after. This was particularly bad in Master and it rears its ugly head here again, as Lidster wipes out the bulk of the population of earth as an aside and puts the surviving characters through an utterly miserable slog to the point that you'd think they'd envy the dead.

In any case, Davros is slowly going insane(r) as he struggles to retain his individuality against his status as the Dalek Emperor, which is slowly pushing past his sense of self in order to be "pure", the perfect Dalek that the others can and will listen to without question. He has many balls in the air as he juggles various strategies to survive, including the creation of a clone of his original body, which leads to a rather perfect if depressing exchange between the Doctor and Davros.

Doctor: Is that what you looked like?
Davros: Perhaps, I no longer remember. I suppose I must have.

Davros has been the mad, crippled creator of the Daleks for so long now, so many centuries of cursed half-life that he no longer remembers what he looked like, nor does he particularly care one way or the other. This rather depressing take fits Davros just fine, but the other characters also go through similar miserable experiences. Characters have to deal with the death of a daughter, suicidal tendencies and or basically being the walking dead. Charley is on the verge of a breakdown in the face of learning of the earth's fate, C'Rizz is mentally tortured, and the Doctor learns he's been played like a fool for who knows how long. It's all very unrelentingly depressing and not particularly engaging, and even when the Doctor gets proactive and turns the tables as he inevitably must it feels more like a compromised detente than an actual resolution. Even the resistance's chirpy insistence that they're going to reform and rebuild feels more like a last minute addition to alleviate the hosed up situation, with declarations of multiple other cells somehow existing in spite of the story's earlier insistence that only two existed. The former "companions" of the Doctor have almost zero impact on the story and aren't going to be around any longer, calling into question what point if any there was their existence in the first place outside of Lidster's desire to retcon. The ending also seems to forget the fact that despite the Daleks being gone (BILLIONS of them, too, the numbers are ridiculous) the planet is more than just a formerly occupied zone, it's been completely trashed and is currently almost entirely covered in a gigantic metal shield - how the hell are they going to rebuild with that thing up there?

That's the big issue with this story, it wants to be a complete game-changer but then everything goes back to relatively normal by the end of it all, and ignores all those little world-building bits it put in earlier that can't just be handwaved away with,"And then the bad guys left and didn't come back." Perhaps most galling is in the way that the Doctor so casually cuts off Davros' access to the TARDIS after such a big deal being made of how subtle and cleverly hidden away it was - it happens off-screen in a moment, as if the Doctor walked into the console room and said,"Ahhh, so that's what that big flashing button that says,"DAVROS' CONNECTION TO THE TARDIS DO NOT TOUCH" is for!

The one place that the story shines, bizarrely, is in the treatment of C'Rizz. A boring and extraneous character through most of the Divergent Arc, C'Rizz at first appears to be going through much the same process in this story. But as it goes on, we finally start to get a look into C'Rizz's personality, and it's not a pleasant thing. For the first time since his initial appearance, they finally manage to get across that not only is C'Rizz an alien, but that he is from another dimension - he is an "Other", something completely foreign to the "real" universe, somebody who thinks and feels and understands reality in a completely different way to everybody else. The look we get into his thought process, particularly his closing lines, are deeply unsettling, but that's good - that's something, we now have (presumably) a potential arc and storyline for C'Rizz to undertake, something for him to actually DO. There is an air of early Turlough to him, only instead of an external force acting upon him it's not all internal, which is even more dangerous. C'Rizz is dangerous not because he is evil or hostile, but because he is alien, and his contented, sleepy promise that he will "save" the Doctor and Charley if they need it is quite an eyeopener. I hope like hell they follow through on this.

Terror Firma returns the 8th Doctor to the regular universe and dives right back into the show's continuity. This works for and against it, as it hammers home strongly that they are out of the Divergent Universe but also gets mired in its own references. Terry Molloy's performance as Davros is as excellent as ever and his ultimate (and obviously impermanent) fate is extremely well-handled. Unfortunately everything else is grim, grim, grim and the story takes liberty with some pointless retroactive continuity that ultimately goes nowhere - introduced, resolved and dismissed all within the space of the single story so that it has zero bearing on anything else. Charley is the also-ran in this story and Fisher does what she can with limited material. McGann is his usual competent self as the 8th Doctor, never given the material or direction to elevate anything like we know he is capable of. Conrad Westmaas finally gets at least the semblance of a character and a storyarc as C'Rizz. Not a great jumping-on point for a new fan and too convoluted for its own good, Terror Firma had the potential to be a great return for the 8th Doctor and ended up being a disappointment.

I listened to Terror Firma after listening to Davros, and that really soured it for me, more than it already did by itself. I went from hearing Davros at his highest Davros, unrelenting and unending hatred, declaring he will survive anything thrown at him... to him begging the Doctor to kill him.

I mean, I understand the circumstances but it seemed so uncharacteristic of the Davros I just listened to (I've only seen Genesis and the RTD 2-parter of Davros so I could be slightly off base here). The Davros in Davros would never allow the Dalek Emperor side to win, he'd invent some kind of mind-numbing app for his chair to suppress it until he can expel it. He'd definitely still do the rest of the plot of the episode, but just to do it. He wouldn't snivel or beg, he'd demand as hard as the Emperor Dalek was demanding him. Davros giving in and succumbing just doesn't seem right.

Also I thought the same thing about C'Rizz... and boy do the squander that goodwill. Completely.

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Detective No. 27: Jun 7, 2006

Spare Parts is excellent, but after the events of that story, the cybermen indiscriminetly convert any people. I was thinking that a group of cybermen would find it illogical to convert thriving races and target dying ones instead. It would have right to die undertones. (I don't know if that's an issue in the UK or not.)

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vegetables: Mar 10, 2012

Detective No. 27 posted:

It would have right to die undertones. (I don't know if that's an issue in the UK or not.)

Well, it is, but euthanasia isn't really that similar to turning into a robot that clanks around electrifying things. What are the specific parallels the story would draw on?

# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:13

Detective No. 27: Jun 7, 2006

vegetables posted:

Well, it is, but euthanasia isn't really that similar to turning into a robot that clanks around electrifying things. What are the specific parallels the story would draw on?

Well, I guess maybe euthanasia isn't right direction. Hm. Yeah, my idea is basically Spare Parts now that I think of it.

# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:20

CobiWann: Oct 21, 2009; Have fun!

Well, after binging as much of Black Books as I could get my hands on and telling my wife to get me the complete series for Christmas�

1. I want Dylan Moran as the Doctor at some point. I never wanted this until this series.
2. I never knew what a shipping report was until this series.
3. I will never be able to listen to a shipping report without thinking of this series.

# ? Nov 14, 2014 18:38

docbeard: Jul 19, 2011

Detective No. 27 posted:

Well, I guess maybe euthanasia isn't right direction. Hm. Yeah, my idea is basically Spare Parts now that I think of it.

Maybe not focused specifically on the dying but rather on the suffering. "You never have to feel grief or pain again" would seem like one hell of a deal to some people. Not unlike what Missy was selling to the people in her afterlife, come to think of it. Make it an informed choice, maybe even make it someone seeking out the Cybermen rather than it being their plan, and you've got something that is at least distinct from Spare Parts, even if it's not necessary all that original a premise either. (There aren't really original premises anyway.)

# ? Nov 14, 2014 19:42

Small Strange Bird: Sep 22, 2006; Merci, chaton!

Lipset and Rock On posted:

Yes, I am sperging over the realistic portrayal of public transport in a TV show where an alien travels in time in a blue box.

I was distracted to an annoying degree from the otherwise very good Flatline by the presence of a long-out-of-mainline-service Diesel Multiple Unit, in 1960s British Railways livery at that. :sperg:

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vegetables: Mar 10, 2012

Payndz posted:

I was distracted to an annoying degree from the otherwise very good Flatline by the presence of a long-out-of-mainline-service Diesel Multiple Unit, in 1960s British Railways livery at that. :sperg:

That was Missy's TARDIS, as you'll discover in an audio play 20 years from now.

# ? Nov 14, 2014 20:24

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Distractions.

Payndz posted:

I was distracted to an annoying degree from the otherwise very good Flatline by the presence of a long-out-of-mainline-service Diesel Multiple Unit, in 1960s British Railways livery at that. :sperg:

I noticed that too, but for some reason I ended up thinking "man, do they still have those knocking around the branch lines in Bristol?". That or it was a diesel-focused preserved railway.

# ? Nov 14, 2014 20:33

Forktoss: Feb 13, 2012; I'm OK, you're so-so

vegetables posted:

That was Missy's TARDIS, as you'll discover in an audio play 20 years from now.

Speaking of, they lingered so long on this shot at the end of Death in Heaven:

I kept expecting that rubbish bin thing featured prominently on the left (or better yet, the carousel behind it) to VWORP VWORP away after Clara had gone.

# ? Nov 14, 2014 20:34

Irony Be My Shield: Jul 29, 2012

Payndz posted:

I was distracted to an annoying degree from the otherwise very good Flatline by the presence of a long-out-of-mainline-service Diesel Multiple Unit, in 1960s British Railways livery at that. :sperg:

To be fair that's probably why they got to film with it.

# ? Nov 14, 2014 21:55

Fil5000: Jun 23, 2003; HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

CobiWann posted:

Well, after binging as much of Black Books as I could get my hands on and telling my wife to get me the complete series for Christmas�

1. I want Dylan Moran as the Doctor at some point. I never wanted this until this series.
2. I never knew what a shipping report was until this series.
3. I will never be able to listen to a shipping report without thinking of this series.

Do you mean the shipping forecast?

Edit: Also, the episode of Black Books that Simon Pegg is in is the best thing Simon Pegg has ever done.

# ? Nov 14, 2014 22:38

Jerusalem: May 20, 2004; Would you be my new best friends?

Detective No. 27 posted:

Spare Parts is excellent, but after the events of that story, the cybermen indiscriminetly convert any people. I was thinking that a group of cybermen would find it illogical to convert thriving races and target dying ones instead. It would have right to die undertones. (I don't know if that's an issue in the UK or not.)

I'm sure I've said it before, but I've always said that the Cybermen should never be the aggressors in any war unless they're already in a state of peril with regards to their own survival. This is part of what would make them so terrifying, in my mind, that one day they'd show up out of nowhere and start unemotionally converting people to get their numbers back up, and the moment their territory/population reached some point where they felt their survival was guaranteed they would just.... stop. There might be a planet or a solar system or hell even a galaxy that is being mercilessly attacked and converted and then suddenly everything just slams to a halt and the Cybermen do NOTHING. They just stand motionless where they were or go into hibernation leaving small patrolling units to maintain equipment etc and then do nothing until some circumstance triggers the,"Our survival is in danger" alert in their minds and they slam back into action and begin fighting/converting again.

CobiWann posted:

Well, after binging as much of Black Books as I could get my hands on and telling my wife to get me the complete series for Christmas�

1. I want Dylan Moran as the Doctor at some point. I never wanted this until this series.
2. I never knew what a shipping report was until this series.
3. I will never be able to listen to a shipping report without thinking of this series.

Fraaaaaaaaan? :smug:

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BSam: Nov 24, 2012

Jerusalem posted:

Fraaaaaaaaan?

Oh man, I think that was the first time I saw Serafinowitz. Those were the days.

# ? Nov 14, 2014 23:11

CobiWann: Oct 21, 2009; Have fun!

BSam posted:

Oh man, I think that was the first time I saw Serafinowitz. Those were the days.

That was HIM?!? Stop blowing my drat mind, people!

# ? Nov 14, 2014 23:54

Jerusalem: May 20, 2004; Would you be my new best friends?

CobiWann posted:

That was HIM?!? Stop blowing my drat mind, people!

I know we've only just gotten you into Black Books but have you watched Spaced yet? Watch that, then rewatch Shaun of the Dead (or watch it if you haven't yet). Might as well watch Hot Fuzz and The World's End after that too if you haven't already, given that they're also amazing.

This will also further prep you for the glory that is going to be Nick Frost in the Christmas Special.

# ? Nov 14, 2014 23:56

howe_sam: Mar 7, 2013; Creepy little garbage eaters

Jerusalem posted:

The World's End

The climactic scene in The World's End is so great. It's like something out of Who if the Doctor was drunk off his rear end at the time.

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Bicyclops: Aug 27, 2004

I still haven't seen World's End and really need to get around to it. I didn't honestly care too much for Shaun of the Dead, but Hot Fuzz was incredible.

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thexerox123: Aug 17, 2007

And anybody who is still craving more Peter Serafinowicz should watch Running Wilde, if they haven't. He's a great side character in it.

Also, both seasons of Look Around You.

Also, the one glorious episode of Radio Spirit World. Also, Markets of Britain.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 00:20

thrawn527: Mar 27, 2004; Thrawn/Pellaeon
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Little_wh0re posted:

I am genuinely excited at the idea of someone getting to watch smiths run for the first time.

Me too. Can't wait for the new year.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 00:28

DoctorWhat: Nov 18, 2011; A little privacy, please?

Bicyclops posted:

I didn't honestly care too much for Shaun of the Dead, but Hot Fuzz was incredible.

I'm mostly of the same opinion. The World's End is good, and so is Shaun, but Hot Fuzz is leagues ahead of either.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 00:42

Jerusalem: May 20, 2004; Would you be my new best friends?

All three are great in their own way, Shaun is probably still my favorite but picking one feels silly since they're all so good.

Also the fight scenes in The World's End are incredibly well choreographed.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 00:45

DoctorWhat: Nov 18, 2011; A little privacy, please?

Jerusalem posted:

All three are great in their own way, Shaun is probably still my favorite but picking one feels silly since they're all so good.

Also the fight scenes in The World's End are incredibly well choreographed.

Yeah the fight scenes are good but only Hot Fuzz has such incredible antagonists and World's End and Shaun are weakened by their more "ensemble" nature compared to Fuzz's focus on the Frost-and-Pegg Dream Team.

For context, I saw Fuzz first.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 00:49

MrL_JaKiri: Sep 23, 2003; A bracing glass of carrot juice!

DoctorWhat posted:

I'm mostly of the same opinion. The World's End is good, and so is Shaun, but Hot Fuzz is leagues ahead of either.

Disagree, Hot Fuzz is not that funny and the directorial flourishes that work so well in the mundane Spaced are just cliche when used in an action film setting.

howe_sam posted:

The climactic scene in The World's End is so great. It's like something out of Who if the Doctor was drunk off his rear end at the time.

...so, Rick and Morty?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5A5Mb__fiA

# ? Nov 15, 2014 01:13

MrL_JaKiri: Sep 23, 2003; A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Shaun of the Dead isn't that funny either, they definitely peaked early.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 01:14

Burkion: May 10, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Shaun of the Dead isn't that funny either, they definitely peaked early.

The main thing is, all three movies are trying to be more than JUST be funny. For as much as they make fun of their subjects, they are also loving tributes to them.

Shaun IS a Zombie movie first and foremost. It just happens to be funny.

Hot Fuzz IS an action buddy cop movie first and foremost. It just happens to be funny.

World's End IS a sci fi end of the world Pod People movie first and foremost. It just happens to be funny.

Spaced was just a straight up comedy, nothing else. The others tried to be more, and I honestly think they succeeded.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 01:18

CobiWann: Oct 21, 2009; Have fun!

Oh, I've seen the "Blood and Ice Cream" trilogy more times than I can remember. I just have to many drat shows in the queue to watch...and that includes my current watch, Castrovalva.

And Hot Fuzz is easily my favorite out of the three, but the other two are still incredibly funny, all three the more you re-watch then.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 01:23

MrL_JaKiri: Sep 23, 2003; A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Burkion posted:

The main thing is, all three movies are trying to be more than JUST be funny. For as much as they make fun of their subjects, they are also loving tributes to them.

So is Spaced, just not for the entire episode.

Of the three films, I think World's End hits its mark the best - I find Hot Fuzz's plot a bit tedious. "Here's some more generic village peoples that you didn't care about to have a shoot out with"

# ? Nov 15, 2014 01:28

Solaris Knight: Apr 26, 2010; ASK ME ABOUT POWER RANGERS MYSTIC FORCE

howe_sam posted:

The climactic scene in The World's End is so great. It's like something out of Who if the Doctor was drunk off his rear end at the time.

So if he was Tom Baker all the time? :cheeky:

# ? Nov 15, 2014 01:39

Rohan Kishibe: Oct 29, 2011; Frankly, I don't like you
and I never have.

CobiWann posted:

That was HIM?!? Stop blowing my drat mind, people!

At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi. At last we will have revenge.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 02:30

Psybro: May 12, 2002

When I rewatched Hot Fuzz recently I was actually struck by how much stronger it was than I remembered. Shaun of the Dead conversely hasn't stood up as well.

World's End for me was fairly incoherent beyond the excellent action sequences.

Payndz posted:

I was distracted to an annoying degree from the otherwise very good Flatline by the presence of a long-out-of-mainline-service Diesel Multiple Unit, in 1960s British Railways livery at that. :sperg:

Was Flatline set in the North because if so that's not a continuity error, they alternate two of those an hour with guys on one of those handpump-operated things from the Wild West.

Psybro fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Nov 15, 2014

# ? Nov 15, 2014 02:41

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Bicyclops posted:

I still haven't seen World's End and really need to get around to it. I didn't honestly care too much for Shaun of the Dead, but Hot Fuzz was incredible.

I had completely the opposite reaction - I really enjoyed Shaun of the Dead, and Hot Fuzz/World's End just seemed to be trying too hard. Funny how that goes.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 03:38

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# ? Apr 28, 2024 09:39

Rohan Kishibe: Oct 29, 2011; Frankly, I don't like you
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howe_sam posted:

The climactic scene in The World's End is so great. It's like something out of Who if the Doctor was drunk off his rear end at the time.

One thing I really liked is quite often in stories with that kind of conclusion, like a lot of old Star Trek when Kirk destroyed a civilisation or two, the show never shows any of the negative consequences of rejecting technology or whatever, I liked that World's End was pretty apologetic in showing that while the baddies where doing bad stuff, just telling them to gently caress off kind of hosed everything up in a major way.

# ? Nov 15, 2014 06:03

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