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Devo posted:. Also the dealer went down to my 14k out the door off the 14,9 sticker price.
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Nov 14, 2014 08:46
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Grumpo posted:So still leaning towards Challenger for the buy, but I have been doing research into other cars and am not so sure. Mustang Gt doesn't really impress me but the Shelby does. Camero has the best performance in class but I dislike the interior and the way it looks. If Hellcats were available I would consider maybe pulling out the extra cash but they aren't. I really like the way that the Challenger looks both inside and out, but I guess I'm getting cold feet. I'm not particularly loyal to any brand. Are there any foreign cars I should look out for? Again my goal for this car is road trips/occasional daily driver and track. Well I guess I would question why you need to buy such a big expensive car if you just want to drive spiritedly. I don't know if your situation demands having two vehicles but why not trade the Focus in for a Focus ST? You can still go around Focus-ing every day and then go fast on the weekends in the same car, without the need to replace huge tires and brakes. If you need two cars why not buy a used Miata?
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Nov 14, 2014 10:47
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FilthyImp posted:Apologies if its been beat to death before, but if a dealer quotes a discount price ($1500 off!!) And then says 'we'll we have to get taxes and fees calculated first, but THEN we'll drop in the savings' it's time to walk right? Taxes and fees should be calculated off the final price you agree on. In our case we told the dealer what we wanted to walk out the door at and he changed the price so that we could get there (from $14,900 to roughly $12,900). The amount of the check they received from our credit union was exactly $14,000. In Illinois at least title and doc fees are fixed, but the sales tax should be based on the final sale price. Calculating taxes on a higher price and then dropping in a discount seems weird/shady.
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Nov 14, 2014 11:02
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Grumpo posted:So still leaning towards Challenger for the buy, but I have been doing research into other cars and am not so sure. Mustang Gt doesn't really impress me but the Shelby does. Camero has the best performance in class but I dislike the interior and the way it looks. If Hellcats were available I would consider maybe pulling out the extra cash but they aren't. I really like the way that the Challenger looks both inside and out, but I guess I'm getting cold feet. I'm not particularly loyal to any brand. Are there any foreign cars I should look out for? Again my goal for this car is road trips/occasional daily driver and track. You have poo poo tons of good foreign options if you are really considering hellcat money(50-60k): M3, M4, Cayman, etc. If you looking at stay in the Mustang GT to Challenger SRT range(30-45k) you might want to consider 235i, 135i, WRX STI, EVO, 370Z, etc. If you want something cheaper than you mod the crap out of consider a BRZ/FRS or a Miata. Aftermarket mods generally have 0 resale/trade value unless you selling to a gearhead. I would generally recommend keeping all your stock parts, so you can factory reset your car before you sell or trade in.
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Nov 14, 2014 16:44
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We're looking for a small used car, preferably hatchback, that gets excellent gas mileage and won't cost a ton to maintain. We will drive it maybe 7k miles/year (wife and I both work from home). We live in San Diego, it's kind of hilly, so as a tiebreaker something with enough power to enter highway traffic while going up a steep hill would be nice. Proposed Budget: 13k all-in. With CA taxes, this means ~12k before taxes/fees. New or Used: Used Body Style: Small, preferably hatchback Other: Hopefully 35-40 mpg hwy, 28-32 city. We've been looking at and driving 2012-2013 Ford Focus, Toyota Corolla, Toyota Yaris, and Nissan Versa. After reading the last several pages of this thread, I'm thinking we need to drive a Mazda3. Any others we should be considering? I previously owned a 1991 Corolla that I drove for 217k miles so I have a strong bias for the Corolla, but to get one in budget we probably need a 2011-2012 and my wife wants something newer. Plus I don't think they make Corolla hatchbacks.
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Nov 14, 2014 18:11
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Sub Par posted:We're looking for a small used car, preferably hatchback, that gets excellent gas mileage and won't cost a ton to maintain. We will drive it maybe 7k miles/year (wife and I both work from home). We live in San Diego, it's kind of hilly, so as a tiebreaker something with enough power to enter highway traffic while going up a steep hill would be nice. I honestly think you'd be best off getting the nicest Prius that you can find in your budget over any of those cars for your usage case. The Corolla, Yaris and Versa are all bad cars, and 2012 was the first year of that Focus and more likely to have transmission issues. You want a Skyactiv Mazda 3, and those are only 2012 and newer and it can be tough to find a Mazda 3 hatch for $12k that new. Look at the Fiesta, that might meet your needs without stretching your budget.
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Nov 14, 2014 18:15
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Twerk from Home posted:You want a Skyactiv Mazda 3, and those are only 2012 and newer and it can be tough to find a Mazda 3 hatch for $12k that new. To add to this - while the pre-Skyactiv Mazda3 is still an excellent car, the fuel mileage is not.
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Nov 14, 2014 18:21
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Devo posted:In Illinois at least title and doc fees are fixed, but the sales tax should be based on the final sale price. Calculating taxes on a higher price and then dropping in a discount seems weird/shady. FilthyImp posted:Apologies if its been beat to death before, but if a dealer quotes a discount price ($1500 off!!) And then says 'we'll we have to get taxes and fees calculated first, but THEN we'll drop in the savings' it's time to walk right?
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Nov 14, 2014 19:03
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Sub Par posted:We're looking for a small used car, preferably hatchback, that gets excellent gas mileage and won't cost a ton to maintain. We will drive it maybe 7k miles/year (wife and I both work from home). We live in San Diego, it's kind of hilly, so as a tiebreaker something with enough power to enter highway traffic while going up a steep hill would be nice. You live in a hilly city, care a lot about milage, and are in a state probably awash in Priuses? Find the newest/nicest one you can.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:09
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Twerk from Home posted:I honestly think you'd be best off getting the nicest Prius that you can find in your budget over any of those cars for your usage case. IRQ posted:You live in a hilly city, care a lot about milage, and are in a state probably awash in Priuses? Find the newest/nicest one you can. Thanks for the advice, guys. I had assumed that the Prius would, by and large, be out of our price range. And just some very quick searching reveals that the only ones we can afford are in the 90k+ miles range. Is that really better than getting a used Corolla or Yaris (or similar)? I will research this but I have heard anecdotal reports of the batteries failing after a few years and costing on the order of $6k to replace. I've driven the Fiesta and don't really like it, and I haven't yet driven a Mazda3 but I'm seeing a handful of Skyactiv ones for 12-13k in my area, so I guess I'll go test drive one. But seriously, even if the Prius I can afford is 90k+ miles, should I still be looking that direction? Thanks again.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:37
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Sub Par posted:Thanks for the advice, guys. I had assumed that the Prius would, by and large, be out of our price range. And just some very quick searching reveals that the only ones we can afford are in the 90k+ miles range. Is that really better than getting a used Corolla or Yaris (or similar)? I will research this but I have heard anecdotal reports of the batteries failing after a few years and costing on the order of $6k to replace. I'd take a 90k mile Prius over a 30k mile Yaris any day of the week with no hesitation.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:01
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Hm alright. It looks like we can stretch to $16k all-in, which would let us get a 2012 Prius C with 40-60k miles. I've never driven it, so I will go do that, but what do you guys think of that? Is there anything to be worried about with the C because it's a newer model?
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Nov 14, 2014 20:16
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Sub Par posted:Hm alright. It looks like we can stretch to $16k all-in, which would let us get a 2012 Prius C with 40-60k miles. I've never driven it, so I will go do that, but what do you guys think of that? Is there anything to be worried about with the C because it's a newer model? The Prius C is a different car than the Prius, it's absolutely terrible and gets worse highway fuel economy than a full-size Prius of the same model year while being a disaster to drive and cramped inside.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:20
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Alright, so we're finding some affordable 2010 Prius which is the oldest we can do (loan from a credit union and to get the 1.99% rate the car has to be 2010 or newer model year). These are in the 40-60k mileage range, so we'll go check them out. Thanks for your help.
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Nov 14, 2014 22:23
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You can get some killer deals on new Priuses, FYI. My fiance recently bought a 2014 Prius, 0% financing, $0 down, for $21,000. That's heavily dependent on your credit and your negotiating skills, of course, but it can be done. I know its out of your budget, but it's good to know for all the guys recommending Priuses ITT.
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Nov 14, 2014 22:34
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Twerk from Home posted:I honestly think you'd be best off getting the nicest Prius that you can find in your budget over any of those cars for your usage case. The Corolla, Yaris and Versa are all bad cars, and 2012 was the first year of that Focus and more likely to have transmission issues. The automatic on the Fiesta is the same DCT as the Focus though? Chevy Sonic and Hyundai Accent/Kia Rio maybe?
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Nov 15, 2014 01:11
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Throatwarbler posted:The automatic on the Fiesta is the same DCT as the Focus though? My thought was that the budget would get a newer Fiesta than Focus, and that the problems are more likely / worse in older cars.
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Nov 15, 2014 01:34
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We're about to have our first kid in February and would like a second car to make sure we both have transportation. We currently have a 2005 Scion xB with ~110k miles on it and would preferably like something a bit larger so it can also double as the vacation hauler a few times a year. Location: Southwest Georgia. Also have family in the Chicago area and could possibly drive up with one car/down with two for the right deal. Proposed budget: 10-13k, could stretch to 15k but that's a fairly hard cap. New or Used: Prefer used. Body Style: Minivan/large wagon/SUV/basically anything with more space than an xB. How will you be using the car? Local driving (sub-10 mile round trips) with a few 1000-2000 mile trips for vacation/family a year. Our current xB runs <7500 miles a year. Luxury Vehicle? Doesn't really matter. What aspects are most important to you? Reliability, child safety, space for a growing family and its luggage. Gas mileage doesn't matter much since the drives are so short. We'd prefer something with similar height/entry as the xB since we're both tall. Cruise control for the long trips (seems to be standard on nearly everything I see now so probably not a big deal.) I feel like we could take something with a higher mileage than normal since it will be driven fairly lightly. At the latest we'd want to buy before the end of March, but if deals are better in the next month+ we can do that as well.
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Nov 15, 2014 03:17
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Grumpo posted:So still leaning towards Challenger for the buy, but I have been doing research into other cars and am not so sure. Mustang Gt doesn't really impress me but the Shelby does. Camero has the best performance in class but I dislike the interior and the way it looks. If Hellcats were available I would consider maybe pulling out the extra cash but they aren't. I really like the way that the Challenger looks both inside and out, but I guess I'm getting cold feet. I'm not particularly loyal to any brand. Are there any foreign cars I should look out for? Again my goal for this car is road trips/occasional daily driver and track. I love the Challenger, but it really is a big V8 couch. I'm not sure it is the best vehicle for a track day. It is HEAVY for a track car, and I say this as someone who tracks a station wagon. For your price, something like a used corvette would be a better track car if you want power. That said, if you're just starting with track days, something light, not powerful, and possibility cheap makes sense. Like a miata, an FRS/BRZ, or an RX-8. edit: I'd kill a man for a hellcat, but I wouldn't buy one as a track car.
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Nov 15, 2014 06:22
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What's the best way to get rid of a worthless car? A friend of mine managed to seize the engine on his 2006 Chrysler Sebring, and is asking me for advice on how to sell a dead car. Is the best option really just whichever junkyard will tow it there?
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Nov 15, 2014 06:44
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Twerk from Home posted:What's the best way to get rid of a worthless car? A friend of mine managed to seize the engine on his 2006 Chrysler Sebring, and is asking me for advice on how to sell a dead car. Is the best option really just whichever junkyard will tow it there? Pretty much a junk yard should offer 200-400 for a car any car with 4 tires and catalytic converter.
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Nov 15, 2014 06:49
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Nov 15, 2014 10:21
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Thats not a bad idea. If you still have a note on your track car, make sure to get track day insurance 
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Nov 15, 2014 17:41
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This is probably an uncommon question, but maybe not, and maybe this isn't the right place for it. My wife and I both bought newer cars this year (March and August) now I am in need of a winter car because I'm starting a new job in 2 weeks and the travel is pretty far during bad weather for my current car, and a third car would be handy to have around anyway (as SUV for dump runs, buying home repair stuff at Lowes, a third car in case one of ours in is the shop). My new job pays a lot more than my old job, so I could afford another car payment, but I'm looking to spend around the $10k mark and make extra payments enough to pay it off in a year or two tops. The problem is with just getting the newer better job I haven't got much savings (I could probably put like $2k down) also my credit is probably only mid to high 600's. Am I going to be able to get another car loan?
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Nov 15, 2014 21:47
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Get a dedicated set of winter tires and wheels. Going deeper into debt for an item that will only depreciate in value is not a wise move. Having only just last year finally fitting my car with snowies I will never again go without them. They make my RWD car do incredible things in dealing with Utah snowstorms. Things that any size SUVs couldn't do with as much ease and confidence on crap all season tires.
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Nov 15, 2014 22:11
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A good set of winter tires and a cheap set of wheels will run you $1000. You could get both you and your wife a set for significantly less than a third car.
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Nov 15, 2014 22:32
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Don't forget to factor in insurance and other fixed costs of ownership. A third car would truly be a strange move in terms of financial responsibility.
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Nov 15, 2014 23:28
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nm posted:Thats not a bad idea. If you still have a note on your track car, make sure to get track day insurance If you owe on a track car you can't afford it.
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Nov 15, 2014 23:39
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BJA posted:This is probably an uncommon question, but maybe not, and maybe this isn't the right place for it. My wife and I both bought newer cars this year (March and August) now I am in need of a winter car because I'm starting a new job in 2 weeks and the travel is pretty far during bad weather for my current car, and a third car would be handy to have around anyway (as SUV for dump runs, buying home repair stuff at Lowes, a third car in case one of ours in is the shop). My new job pays a lot more than my old job, so I could afford another car payment, but I'm looking to spend around the $10k mark and make extra payments enough to pay it off in a year or two tops. The problem is with just getting the newer better job I haven't got much savings (I could probably put like $2k down) also my credit is probably only mid to high 600's. Am I going to be able to get another car loan? If I got a car loan you sure as hell can, but do you really need another car? Unless both of you are driving RWD cars entirely unsuited for snow/ice then you're probably fine. I know Maryland is not the pinnacle of winter weather, but I have never had a problem with a FWD car with all weather tires + not driving like an idiot, and I don't get to stay home if it snows unless it's really bad. If your newish cars are FWD just get some snow tires if you're that concerned and drive smart. The cost of a winter Subaru or whatever almost certainly isn't worth it unless your circumstances are extreme (you live in the boonies where nobody plows roads and you're off of a 45 degree gravel driveway, and even that I have done in a camry).
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Nov 15, 2014 23:43
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Bovril Delight posted:If you owe on a track car you can't afford it.
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Nov 15, 2014 23:44
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IRQ posted:If I got a car loan you sure as hell can, but do you really need another car? Unless both of you are driving RWD cars entirely unsuited for snow/ice then you're probably fine. I actually live in NH, and it's a Mustang my wifes car will be fine with snow tires.
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Nov 16, 2014 01:35
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BJA posted:I actually live in NH, and it's a Mustang And I have a 97 M3 with a wheel speed sensor that occasionally disables traction control and ABS with Utah snow (where the Olympics were held) and snow tires are amazing.
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Nov 16, 2014 04:49
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Somewhat Heroic posted:And I have a 97 M3 with a wheel speed sensor that occasionally disables traction control and ABS with Utah snow (where the Olympics were held) and snow tires are amazing. My wife's is a 2008 135i AT, which I am actually looking forward to having fun with in the snow
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Nov 17, 2014 13:22
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A car purchase might be coming up on me quicker than I planned, so I want to have some ideas just in case. Location: Northwest Georgia  Proposed Budget: $10-13K New or Used: Used Body Style: Coupe How will you be using the car?: Daily driver, nothing strenuous. A couple of times a year I'll drive out of town to visit family, about 800 miles round trip. Do you prefer a luxury vehicle with all the gizmos? Not really. I would really like a sound system where I can plug in my phone for charging, music, GPS, etc., but it's not a deal-breaker. What aspects are most important to you? (e.g. reliability, cost of ownership/maintenance, import/domestic, MPG, size, style)? Something sporty and responsive, though with reasonable MPG and a decently comfortable ride for the aforementioned road trips. That said, I am willing to sacrifice some comfort for fun, just so long as I'm not in a miserable bouncing shitbox. I don't have any kids or large pets to cart around, so I don't need a ton of room. This will be my only car, though, so I would like to have a back seat for the occasional extra passenger, and enough trunk space for groceries or a suitcase or whatever. Also, this might sound shallow, but I don't like coupes that look just like 4-door sedans with the rear doors taken off. If I'm sacrificing practicality, then I want style, dammit  If I can delay purchasing for another year or so then I was thinking about a Scion FR-S or a Mustang, but even the used ones seem to be out of my price range right now unless I get one with a ton of miles on it (which I don't want). I have no clue how to work on a car, so no imports that need expensive parts and labor, please. ...Is this turning into the impossible dream and I should just get a Camry? 
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Nov 17, 2014 18:29
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After reading that impossible dream of yours, the only thing that comes to mind is an 8th generation Honda Civic Si. Coupe? -Check Sporty? - Somewhat, depends on your definition MPG? - Check back seat - check maintenance - I'm not a Honda guy, but it shouldn't be too bad. The bad news is your budget. 10-13K will get you a 2006 to 2009 model with probably close to 100K miles on it. Increasing that to 15 or 16K would get you a much newer lower mile example. Really though, those are tough set of parameters to find a car in, especially one without a ton of miles on it and you not knowing how to work on a car.
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Blue Scream posted:A car purchase might be coming up on me quicker than I planned, so I want to have some ideas just in case. Why do you want a coupe and what do you mean by 'sporty and responsive'? If you just want a coupe for the looks, Scion tCs are cheap, reliable, and efficient, but miserable to drive because it's a Toyota Corolla. Everything depends on what you mean by 'sporty' and 'reasonable mpg'. If 'sporty' means fast, and 'reasonable mpg' means in the ballpark of 20mpg, what about a GTO? I see GTOs with an LS2 for $12k around me. Comfy, enough room to be only car, fast as hell. Edit: After re-reading what you want, I think you just want a decent to drive economy car. The coupe version of the Civic SI is probably your best bet, though it definitely looks like a sedan with 2 doors taken off. Twerk from Home fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Nov 17, 2014 |
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Nov 17, 2014 22:17
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Any "sporty" car, especially the Civic SI/FR-S/GTO at a $10k price point will have been beaten to hell and back and will need maintenance. Grandma doesn't buy a high-revving civic to go to church. Don't buy a sport model unless you have the money to fix it, or can fix it yourself. Typical AI response: if you can give up a back seat, Miata.
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Nov 17, 2014 22:50
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Gen Coupe maybe? I have no idea how much they cost offhand though.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Gen Coupe maybe? I have no idea how much they cost offhand though. The first model year for them was 2009, and I know for a fact that transaction prices on the V6 ones are around $30k because my brother in law bought one. Have they really depreciated that fast? Edit: Autotrader says yes. Man I wish you could get 2012 Mustang GTs for $12k instead. They had the same prices new...
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