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oatgan posted:CM Punk made his name cutting You People promos. There's nothing inherently wrong with the idea. It's just like that period when heels came out in suits talking slowly... it's a great idea if you're in the first wave of people doing it, but when it's been 5 solid years of heels coming out and starting a promo with "YOU PEOPLE" it gets a bit old.
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There was also a period where when beloved guys would turn heel, they'd get a spotlight, a chair, and a mic, and just let 'em go. Eddie and Mick both did it. It loving worked with those guys though. Much like "You People" works with Punk.
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I actually feel like we all came to a consensus here on this topic, which... ... ..might be the first time ever in 13 years on this forum for me.
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Red posted:Has anyone ever taken a Pedigree through a table? Angle managed to get himself concussed on a botched table pedigree.
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Red posted:Has anyone ever taken a Pedigree through a table? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUhfimqMPPY
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Triple H has pedigreed Ted Jr. and Sheamus through the announcers' table, had the table collapse under them when he tried to do it to Angle, and been reversed trying to do it to Jericho.
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Red posted:Has anyone ever taken a Pedigree through a table? Just talking WWE, I'm pretty sure Sheamus and Mick Foley took Pedigrees onto the announce table, but I'm not sure anyone ever took one through a stand EZBreak table. Of course, there was that one time Rock tried to pedigree through a announce table that just no-sold the move. That said, I'm sure there are there plenty of backyarders that took pedigrees off house roofs through tables, just because. edit: drat I'm too slow for this.
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Has Triple H ever won a match with a submission hold?
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Contingency Plan posted:Has Triple H ever won a match with a submission hold? He used a sleeper hold for a little while, but I'm not sure if he ever won with it.
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Contingency Plan posted:Has Triple H ever won a match with a submission hold? He used the crossface for a while and won a match or two with it, I think.
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Red posted:He used a sleeper hold for a little while, but I'm not sure if he ever won with it. Didn't he use the Crossface for a while to disassociate it with Benoit?
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Didn't he do the Indian deathlock a looong time ago?
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45ShadesOfDeath posted:He used the crossface for a while and won a match or two with it, I think. Does using it to frame Chris Benoit count? #askquestions
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Luigi Thirty posted:Didn't he do the Indian deathlock a looong time ago? That or an abdominal stretch, during the riding pants era.
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I feel like someone tapped when he was using the Crossface post-Benoit, but it was a multi-man match with a two on one submission or something like that. Does anyone remember that time Orton used a reverse Boston Crab for like a week and then stopped for no apparent reason?
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sticklefifer posted:Does anyone remember that time Orton used a reverse Boston Crab for like a week and then stopped for no apparent reason? The voices in his head are fickle. Remember when he had the Killswitch Engage CM Punk theme for a week?
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Luigi Thirty posted:Didn't he do the Indian deathlock a looong time ago? Against booker t at wm19. It was weird and came out of nowhere.
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ColeM posted:Against booker t at wm19. It was weird and came out of nowhere. No, longer than that. It was his WCW finisher.
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Red posted:He used a sleeper hold for a little while, but I'm not sure if he ever won with it. He beat at least Spike Dudley with the sleeper. I remember because it was the first time I had ever seen the ref do the "raise the arm to see if they can still compete" that actually ended with the arm falling a third time.
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The Senator Giroux posted:He beat at least Spike Dudley with the sleeper. I remember because it was the first time I had ever seen the ref do the "raise the arm to see if they can still compete" that actually ended with the arm falling a third time. I was going to say, I also remembered him beating Spike with it.
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The Senator Giroux posted:He beat at least Spike Dudley with the sleeper. I remember because it was the first time I had ever seen the ref do the "raise the arm to see if they can still compete" that actually ended with the arm falling a third time. I think Lesnar beat Hogan this way too. Bear hug maybe.
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That was a bearhug, yeah. Same three arm drops to win, though.
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Triple H I believe beat Jeff Hardy with the sleeper, too.
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Piper beat Hogan with the sleeper at Starrcade 1996: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grnn_M8GKe0 (go to about 15:55 for just before Piper locks on the sleeper). My favorite part is Randy Anderson's little stunned reaction when the arm actually drops the third time.
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It's arena-wide, there's just this amazing second or so of "Sleeper? Really??"
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Triple H I believe beat Jeff Hardy with the sleeper, too. For the IC belt, if I remember correctly.
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AKMoose posted:Piper beat Hogan with the sleeper at Starrcade 1996: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grnn_M8GKe0 (go to about 15:55 for just before Piper locks on the sleeper). Although I guess there's some logic to it, since Hollywood Hogan was more of a weaselly heel than an unbeatable monster. Minidust fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Nov 18, 2014 |
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Minidust posted:Huh, I always had the impression that nWo was just beating everybody until the Sting match. Didn't realize that Piper of all people had already vanquished them at a prior rendition of WCW's biggest show. I think it was more that Piper's insane insistence of creative control and going over everyone was more pronounced than even Hogan's was.
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Minidust posted:Huh, I always had the impression that nWo was just beating everybody until the Sting match. Didn't realize that Piper of all people had already vanquished them at a prior rendition of WCW's biggest show. Don't forget Luger beat Hogan and had the title for about a week a few months before Starrcade.
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Blasmeister posted:I think it was more that Piper's insane insistence of creative control and going over everyone was more pronounced than even Hogan's was. Good for him.
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I will never forgive WCW Piper for that segment where he fought a boxer, Horshu, and John Tenta for approximately eight thousand years. Never.
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Blasmeister posted:I think it was more that Piper's insane insistence of creative control and going over everyone was more pronounced than even Hogan's was. And yet he still couldn't get a World title run out of it. Starcade '96 is absurd for the fact that Piper was allowed to come up with the stipulations himself, but for some reason made it a non-title match. I think it was even advertised as a title match and there was a bait-and-switch at the last minute. Everyone even celebrates at the end of the match as though he won the belt.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:And yet he still couldn't get a World title run out of it. Starcade '96 is absurd for the fact that Piper was allowed to come up with the stipulations himself, but for some reason made it a non-title match. I think it was even advertised as a title match and there was a bait-and-switch at the last minute. Everyone even celebrates at the end of the match as though he won the belt. Does Piper actually hold up the title after the match? Him doing that and then they later explain it was non-title would be the most WCW thing.
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Minidust posted:Huh, I always had the impression that nWo was just beating everybody until the Sting match. Didn't realize that Piper of all people had already vanquished them at a prior rendition of WCW's biggest show. I only believe hogan agreed to lose to the sleeper because he wasn't going to lose his title. "Sure Piper, you can beat me with the sleeper hold... I'll go let eric know..."
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Great White Hope posted:I will never forgive WCW Piper for that segment where he fought a boxer, Horshu, and John Tenta for approximately eight thousand years. I loved how the very next week, someone in WCW managed to tell him to gently caress off enough so his team would be replaced by the 4 Horsemen.
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Minidust posted:Huh, I always had the impression that nWo was just beating everybody until the Sting match. Didn't realize that Piper of all people had already vanquished them at a prior rendition of WCW's biggest show. Piper beat Hogan twice within a year in singles in some of the shittiest matches. Neither were for titles. The only two wrestlers to have some success against the nWo before Starrcade 97 were Zybysko and Piper, neither of whom were really on the main roster. Zybysko is still hilarious, because he complained about how the nWo was ruining WCW integrity. 5 minutes later, he's out of the boot and ringside telling someone to ring the drat bell for a title change. It also inevitably led to Dusty Rhodes turning heel and joining the nWo. OJ MIST 2 THE DICK fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Nov 18, 2014 |
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ayn rand hand job posted:It also inevitably led to Dusty Rhodes turning heel and joining the nWo. I only half-followed WCW at the time, and I was so confused as to why Dusty Rhodes was Scott Hall's manager on WCW/NWO Revenge
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Does anyone have a link to Ric Flair going all Frankenstein when he makes his prediction that Batista would win the Royal Rumble earlier this year?
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I haven't really been following the GWF thread but after looking up a little bit about it, it seems like it's more like just a bunch of affiliates kind of like NWA, only worldwide territories instead of US. Is that relatively accurate?
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