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baka kaba posted:Depends if you believe he genuinely wants this investigated, or if he's stalling until the focus is off and the whole investigation can be watered down. He has a political establishment to look out for, after all I'd say that's failing because had the first choice been less immediately compromised then there wouldn't have been anywhere near as much scrutiny of Woolf, which will in turn lead to even more intense scrutiny of the next choice, and might even lead to the doomsday scenario (for some people) of a genuinely independent inquiry headed by someone with no levers that the Establishment can pull. It doesn't even work as a way of taking the heat out of the story because it'll take months - or maybe years - just to get all the preparatory work done in which time there really wouldn't have been much to report on and the story would have dropped out of the headlines of it's own accord. Instead the story keeps shooting back up the order and people are maybe starting to realise just how incestuous (figuratively and possibly literally) the ruling class of the country are. However, if they were maybe trying to delay the start of the actual hearings (which even though they'll almost certainly be held in camera for obvious reasons, are still sure to have some juicy details for the press to pick over) until after the election...
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Interesting the Mazher Mahmood Panorama that was on in 15 minutes was suddenly pulled from the schedule 15 minutes ago, even after earlier court action by him was rejected. No-one seems to know why. Instead I guess you can all read the recent posts we've made about him on Bellingcat Murdoch’s Corporate Governance: The Problem with Mazher Mahmood for Rebekah Brooks, Andy Coulson, & Victoria Newton Mazher Mahmood, Murdoch, and the NCA Did Mazher Mahmood mislead Leveson about the Dark Arts of his Past? News Corp Legal Fees: Why is Murdoch Happy to Pay Mazher Mahmood’s Fees – But Not Andy Coulson’s? Mazher Mahmood and the Met – Too Close for Comfort?
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There was talk of that happening a few days ago. Are you saying his injunction failed but it still got pulled?
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thehustler posted:There was talk of that happening a few days ago. Are you saying his injunction failed but it still got pulled? Yep, no-one knows why at the moment. [edit] Turns out it was legal shenanigans quote:The BBC had intended to broadcast Panorama, Fake Sheikh: Exposed tonight following the Court of Appeal’s decision earlier today to allow the BBC to broadcast images of Mazher Mahmood. Shortly before transmission Mr Mahmood’s lawyers submitted new information relating to one of the cases in the programme which, as a responsible broadcaster, the BBC needs to evaluate Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Nov 10, 2014 |
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Brown Moses posted:Yep, no-one knows why at the moment. Is there anything stopping them pulling this little stunt every time the episode might be broadcast? "Oh, we've got a bit more information this week, don't broadcast."
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Not really, if BBC legal have sorted their poo poo out they'll have outlined Panorama's accusations in a letter to his lawyers (at an extremely heavy push shown them the programme) and next time barring an injunction can go "nope you had right of reply so gently caress off and see you in court."
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And Piers Morgan is engaging in a battle of wits with Ta-Nehisi Coates on twitter. I'd make a wiseass comment but... well, really, not necessary.
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Warcabbit posted:And Piers Morgan is engaging in a battle of wits with Ta-Nehisi Coates on twitter. I have a feeling Piers is going to lose that battle.
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:Not really, if BBC legal have sorted their poo poo out they'll have outlined Panorama's accusations in a letter to his lawyers (at an extremely heavy push shown them the programme) and next time barring an injunction can go "nope you had right of reply so gently caress off and see you in court." BBC lawyers are panicky fucks and with good reason after what happened on Panorama last time round 
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twoot posted:The Sun in total shits non-shocker I am shocked and appalled by them having overlooked my university in this; we would have totally done that and been smug about being on the
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Brown Moses posted:Interesting the Mazher Mahmood Panorama that was on in 15 minutes was suddenly pulled from the schedule 15 minutes ago, even after earlier court action by him was rejected. No-one seems to know why. Instead I guess you can all read the recent posts we've made about him on Bellingcat The episode has been cleared and is on BBC1 tonight at 7:30pm, it's probably gonna be worth a watch. Also thought Bellingcat's article today was pretty funny: Mazher Mahmood Claims BBC “Irresponsible” – But He Has Collapsed 16 Cases Since July
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Mazher Mahmood was linked with Southern Investigations, how much more scummy can one man get? And how the hell did he get away with admitting to having had "bent coppers" on his payroll under caution?
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HortonNash posted:And how the hell did he get away with quote:"bent coppers" on his payroll Answered your own question there.
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Watching this Fake Sheik show on iPlayer, the most shocking revelation so far is that 17 million people watched London's Burning.
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marktheando posted:Watching this Fake Sheik show on iPlayer, the most shocking revelation so far is that 17 million people watched London's Burning. there were what, four regular tv channels at the time, sky had a relatively low installed user base and there was no streaming. also it was on a sunday evening? or something? not sure. makes sense when you realise there was basically gently caress all else to watch.
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Banano posted:If it was Sunday evening you should have been watching loving poirot
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So operation Fairbank (the nonces in Westminster one) are investigating a "possible homicide". I wish I was surprised that our politicians are straight up murdering kids as well as raping them. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30052726 quote:By Tom Symonds
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marktheando posted:So operation Fairbank (the nonces in Westminster one) are investigating a "possible homicide". I wish I was surprised that our politicians are straight up murdering kids as well as raping them. Exaro News has been digging into this a lot, they found Nick and gave him the support to speak up. Credit where credit is due.
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Might not have been a kid in the homicide case, could've been an adult who was close to revealing what was going on, as seems to have been the case with Daniel Morgan's murder (although he was finding out about different things).
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well there have been all sorts of rumours flying around about the Haut De La Garenne children home, murders and the like involving politicians. wonder if it's connected to that.
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JFairfax posted:well there have been all sorts of rumours flying around about the Haut De La Garenne children home, murders and the like involving politicians. wonder if it's connected to that. The one I heard was that kids from the home would go out on Ted Heath's yacht, and never return.
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Stottie Kyek posted:Might not have been a kid in the homicide case, could've been an adult who was close to revealing what was going on, as seems to have been the case with Daniel Morgan's murder (although he was finding out about different things). Couldn't it be looking into the death in 1990 of the housekeeper, who apparently died of a self-inflicted "insulin overdose"? The Independent on Sunday posted:In 1990, at the age of 47, Kasir [the Elm Guest House housekeeper] was found dead in her flat. The coroner's inquest concluded that, a diabetic, she had suffered an insulin overdose. Two Naypic [National Association for Young People in Care] employees told the coroner they believed that because she seemingly had not had an insulin injection for three days, she had been murdered, the victim of powerful people who feared she knew too much. Nonetheless, she was found to have committed suicide, worn down by an eight-year battle to have her son, who was taken into care after her conviction, returned to her.
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JFairfax posted:well there have been all sorts of rumours flying around about the Haut De La Garenne children home, murders and the like involving politicians. wonder if it's connected to that. The problem is there's so much  poo poo been spouted about that place (Satanic rituals in a basement the place didn't even have, that sort of thing) that when you do get the occasional overlap into verifiable facts (both Jimmy Saville and Wilfred Brambell are known to have visited the place, and accusations of abuse by both of children at the home exist) it makes it really hard to unpick.David Icke's mob have linked Ted Heath to the Jersey case pretty much from the moment the first allegations came up in the mid-naughties- tellingly, never anything about the place before - but there's not even the tiniest shred of proof of any kind of link. As I've said before, unlike, say, Saville or Cyril Smith, nobody has ever come forward claiming to be a victim of Heath.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:(both Jimmy Saville and Wilfred Brambell are known to have visited the place, and accusations of abuse by both of children at the home exist) The papers said that a child from that home was brought to see Brambell as a "treat". He then said Brambell abused him backstage. Where does it say he visited the place?
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Plavski posted:The papers said that a child from that home was brought to see Brambell as a "treat". He then said Brambell abused him backstage. Where does it say he visited the place? I'm sure I recall reading that there were pictures of him there but I may have him confused with Saville.
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http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/nov/19/father-police-covered-up-sons-murder-westminster-paedophile-ring I wonder if this is the homicide they're investigating
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Saw this today, it's from July so I must have missed it the first time around. Have to say I always thought that the serbian warlord/disgruntled villains theories that were put forward were so bizarre as to be suspicious in and of themselves. Now we find out she had compiled a paedo dossier and surprise surprise was given the brush off by beeb management. http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/490169/Dando-alarm-paedophile-ring-BBC
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Banano posted:Saw this today, it's from July so I must have missed it the first time around. Have to say I always thought that the serbian warlord/disgruntled villains theories that were put forward were so bizarre as to be suspicious in and of themselves. Now we find out she had compiled a paedo dossier and surprise surprise was given the brush off by beeb management. It's the Express. You've seen their Diana coverage, right? Let's wait for a sane source to pick this one up.
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Saw this article pop up in the Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2846700/Theresa-warns-worse-come-Westminster-child-abuse-claims.html quote:●Former MPs alleged to have sexually abused children and killed three boys Has that episode the BBC pulled recently been put up anywhere us Americans can watch?
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I see Andy Coulsen is out early, that's nice isn't it.
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ewe2 posted:I see Andy Coulsen is out early, that's nice isn't it. You just can't keep a good man down.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Saw this article pop up in the Mail: If you mean the fake sheikh one, it's on iPlayer, which I assume you can access if you have a vpn such as hola.
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In a a lot of the bribery cases that are on going there are allocations that Mrs Brooks was aware of payments. If these people are found guilty doesn't take also make her guilt by extension? And if so would that be a basis of a retrial?
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Rumfitt:"police + prosecution allowed themselves to be spoonfed evidence by mighty multinational [News Int] desperate to save its own skin" This was a tweet from @lisaocarroll, and I have to agree. I think NI have been very clever in who they have given up. Makes me wonder what they have buried while we have been distracted.
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I'm just gonna go ahead and leave this here without comment: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/18/police-claims-vip-sex-ring-murder-three-boys quote:Claims that boys were murdered by VIP sex ring are ‘credible and true’ say police
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I honestly thought that one was too lurid to have any possibility of being true. Holy gently caress.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I honestly thought that one was too lurid to have any possibility of being true. Holy gently caress. 
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