Oberst posted:

Smdh idk about you, but the consensual fingerbang rape of a 12 year old is what really sold me on the book. Especially after it became regular rape the next chapter! !

Agot - come for the rape, stay for the lamprey pie

Dr. Faustus posted:

You guys saw this already, right?

https://twitter.com/GRRMspeaking/status/536334974916759553

frankenfreak posted:

AtAt-de-fay posted:

This would also be good:

http://i.imgur.com/zwqQW4P.gif

AtAt-de-fay posted:

This would also be good:

http://i.imgur.com/zwqQW4P.gif

AtAt-de-fay posted:

This would also be good:

http://i.imgur.com/zwqQW4P.gif

Kavak posted:

On an unrelated note, HBO seems to be implying something.

Rannos22 posted:

That having their two most popular characters in the heading is a good idea?

Rannos22 posted:

That having their two most popular characters in the heading is a good idea?

Rannos22 posted:

You sure they don't just mean that they have the complete series that's aired so far on HBO GO? Because everything else on that particular page are headers for individual episodes or movies.

TK-42-1 posted:

Beautiful.

quote:

Victorian held aloft his Horn of Dragon Summoning +1 and blew long and hard. Drogon heard and felt the Summon, but made his saving throw, shaking off the spell. Victorian lacked the racial bonus of a true Targaryon. Now if it were only a sea-dragon...

The Red Priest raised his hands and cast Dark Blessing on Victorian and he felt the power of the Red God [etc]

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

bakker has his own book(s) to finish dammit

kcroy posted:

seriously though - shouldn't the new one be out right now? I was expecting it this holiday season.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

He supposedly turned in a first draft in late 2013 so yeah, hopefully it will be soon. I probably should reread that poo poo anyway since there is so much I forget.

quote:

Listen to me. I will not lie to you. The Nansur can afford no quarter, because they can afford no Truth! We all die this night!

He let these words ring into silence.

I know nothing of your Afterlife. I know nothing of your Gods or their greed for glory. But I do know this: In days to come, widows shall curse me as they weep! Fields shall go to seed! Sons and daughters shall be sold into slavery! Fathers shall die desolate, knowing their line is extinct! This night. I shall carve my mark into the Nansurium, and thousands shall cry out for want of my mercy!

And the spark became flame.
Scylvendi! they roared. Scylvendi!

AtAt-de-fay posted:

This would also be good:

http://i.imgur.com/zwqQW4P.gif

Blind Sally posted:

Nah, the "complete series" part. Referencing either the fact that there won't be anything else after the next season cause there's nothing left to write, or confirmation that GRRM isn't going to produce any more books, so HBO will be where you get to see the complete ASoIaF series.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

bakker has his own book(s) to finish dammit

Evil Fluffy posted:

Who is this guy? Haven't heard of him and I'm looking for a new series to read since I grabbed the Cycle of Arawn on a whim for $3 not long ago and finished it recently.

Popular Human posted:

I noticed we used to have a thread for PoN discussion but it fell off the map some time ago. With White-Luck Warrior coming out a few months ago and the whole Aspect-Emperor trilogy set to wrap up next year, now’s a good time for discussion, speculation, and getting more people to read this underappreciated series.

Who is R. Scott Bakker?

R. Scott Bakker is a Canadian fantasy author. While he’s made several forays into traditional fiction, the main bulk of his work is a fantasy series called The Second Apocalypse.

Alright, I just put “The Second Apocalypse” into Amazon and nothing came up. What gives?

The Second Apocalypse is sort of a trilogy of trilogies that comprises all of Bakker’s work. It’s easier to think of it as three trilogies of books that take place in the same universe, with big gaps in between. The first trilogy is called “The Prince of Nothing” and comprises the following books:

1. The Darkness that Comes Before
2. The Warrior-Prophet
3. The Thousandfold Thought

Bakker’s in the middle of writing the second trilogy right now, called “The Aspect-Emperor.” A-E takes place about twenty years after the events of PoN and picks up where it left off, but other than that pretty much everything about it is a huge spoiler for PoN. It comprises:

1. The Judging Eye
2. The White-Luck Warrior
3. The Unholy Consult (forthcoming, probably in mid-to-late 2012)

If you’re worried about the series not finishing, don’t be – Bakker’s put out the books at a pretty good clip (six in the last eight years, plus two non-fantasy novels) and has plotted out the last three books in the series. The title of the third trilogy is as yet unrevealed, it’s apparently a huge spoiler for TUC (much like Aspect-Emperor is kind of a spoiler for PoN).

So, why should I read this book instead of the thousand other bloated fantasy series out there?

Prince of Nothing isn't like any other fantasy series running today: it's extremely well-written, full of vibrant and interesting characters, and it just feels like a more complete, 'real' world than just about anything else. If there’s a series I’d compare PoN to, it’s actually Dune. It feels very much like the epic scope of the Malazan books merged with the philosophizing and character of the early Dune novels. (Hell, he even steals the ‘awesome in-universe made up quote before every chapter’ that Frank Herbert did). Bakker obviously knows his philosophy and isn’t afraid to let it permeate the narrative – but not so much so that it gets in the way. And if you're concerned about the time commitment required to get into a major fantasy series, you're in luck - the PoN books all range from 5-600 pages, nowhere near the 1000+ wrist-breaking behemoths we're used to.

One caveat – the universe of PoN is pretty drat brutal. If you’re one of those people who can’t read George R.R. Martin’s books because of all the sex and violence, you’re going to find it amped up to an even more ridiculous degree here. It’s an “Adult” fantasy in both the sense of not treating the reader like a child, and presenting things that no child should read.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Fantasy author who is clearly a student of philosophy and mixes it in with his writing(well, in my eyes). I'll quote the OP of the thread, but I wouldn't read the rest of the thread. It's pretty brutal and horrifying in ways GRRM couldn't dream of, I might go as far as to say there are horror aspects there.

kcroy posted:

Evil Fluffy posted:

At this point I'd rather have him cranking out more books for the Stormlight Archives than dealing with Martin's War of the Roses remix.

Who is this guy? Haven't heard of him and I'm looking for a new series to read since I grabbed the Cycle of Arawn on a whim for $3 not long ago and finished it recently.

kcroy posted:

hey I didn't realize 2nd stormlight book is out.. something to read this holiday!

Be aware that if you jump into Bakker that:

1) lots of confusing names and places that initially have very little context
2) took me a while to get into it.. lots of prose, and it initially tracks 3-4 characters, some of whom don't get talked about for a long time. ( sort of like grrm that way I guess )
3) definite middle eastern vibe ( which I like ) and much of it parallels the christian holy wars - at least early on. once I realized that, it gave me some context for visualizing things.
4) rape. magic. hobgoblins loving corpses. ancient evil. religion. war. lots of the author babbling about reality. oh and the gay man on man love.

I like the way he writes about magic actually. It is used pretty sparingly, and i really grooved on his descriptions, DESPITE spells having names.

kcroy posted:

Hogge Wild posted:

How does his magic compare to Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell's magic?

Barreft posted:

re: Bakker: Is he the black demon sperm guy?

e: err demon black sperm guy?

someone who hated the books posted:

To take one example, you correctly declare that sex is a part of life. But then, does the sex in Bakker’s world realistically reflect sex in ours? Not at all. In his world, husbands have wives so that he can try to manipulate the reader by having the wife raped and killed in front of the husband; I haven’t actually counted, but I suspect there is more ink devoted to incestuous mother-son sex than conventional marital sex.

Indeed, there is more demonic “black seed” being spilled than there are women being impregnated by doing the only thing that can make them pregnant. No one ever gets an itching, burning sensation no matter how many prostitutes they penetrate. So, there is absolutely nothing realistic about Bakker’s obsessive porn; it is more fantastic than Saladin’s spy girl having thunderous orgasms while being raped for the third time. Bakker is doing nothing new in this particular regard, his most transgressive achievement is to have written a larger, more fantastic version of a 1970s men’s novel.

Evil Fluffy posted:

E: ^^^^^ Just print out Squad Broken and switch out the original names for ASOIAF characters. Theon seems a natural for at least one character.


Several friends on Facebook have been gushing about it and how it can let people read about the Night King or Longest Night or whatever the gently caress background flavor text. It's been hard to not respond with "you know what I'd like to read? The Winds of Winter."

I get that George Absolute Fucker Martin is a crusty old rear end in a top hat and competing with Patrick Rothfuss to see who can write the slowest while putting out side-filler nobody gives a gently caress about, but at this rate even if TWoW comes out, the HBO series will be done in a few years and cover the story's ending and a lot of people aren't going to care to wait until 2025 to read the last book and rehash things HBO's series has already concluded unless they're flat out going to make the TV show go differently at this point. Ending and all.