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Oh god, who uses the VirtualBox guest additions? Why would you do that to yourself?
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ahmeni posted:virtual box and vboxdriver with guest additions and all that enabled
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I don't use VirtualBox to begin with because it's a piece of trash.
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Mr Dog posted:networkmanager is a system daemon, how do i interact with it if there's no shell integration, is there a standalone gui prog i could use? you sound like Shaggar at this point.
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Suspicious Dish posted:I don't use VirtualBox to begin with because it's a piece of trash. is there a better VM that allows windows hosts because i'm about tired of virtualbox's poo poo
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VMware
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VMware is where I tried gnome3 the only time I tried gnome3. it ran like rear end.
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vmware player ran fedora 20 w/ gnome3 fine last i used it
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welp so much for using gnome then
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Are you really that glued to VirtualBox?
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does the free version of vmware still have the baby blue theme?
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Suspicious Dish posted:Are you really that glued to VirtualBox? it's just what people recommended to me a few years ago when i needed a linux vm (because as much as i like programming in linux, i sure as gently caress don't want it as my primary desktop)
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Avenging Dentist posted:it's just what people recommended to me a few years ago when i needed a linux vm (because as much as i like programming in linux, i sure as gently caress don't want it as my primary desktop) the only reason to use virtualbox is to avoid paying for the vagrant vmware plugin
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I use virtualbox to run a headless linux development environment, which is the only acceptable use of linux because lol at using a linux GUI.
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Suspicious Dish posted:Are you really that glued to VirtualBox? I'm sure as gently caress not ruining this laptop by installing Linux on it if that's what you mean lmao
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Palace of Hate posted:also all my windows had a robot tit on them and so I had to dig through 3 different included config apps to remove the tit. idk i barely ever noticed that but it was easy to remove k menu -> system settings -> workspace apperance -> window decorations -> oxygen is selected since that's what i'm using -> configure buttons -> check box for use custom titlebar positions, drag that button out of the titlebar mockup the only thing i don't think is ideal there is the term "workspace appearance" calling the title bars and stuff part of a "workspace"
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our other use case is that we offer a supported vagrant vm for people stuck on windows at work or are having trouble with the dev environment on their mac
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btrfs getting swap file support in 3.19 http://lwn.net/Articles/625412/ not so many showstoppers from quitting zfs after this. btrfs recently gained raid[56] support too.
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Tankakern posted:btrfs getting swap file support in 3.19 does it have support for being used for real work yet
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Soricidus posted:does it have support for being used for real work yet
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Tankakern posted:btrfs getting swap file support in 3.19 Btrfs is pronounced "Butterface" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrfs linux
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Captain Pike posted:Btrfs is pronounced "Butterface"
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:no. its pronounced slamwhale
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lol if you are ever in a position where you have to pronounce btrfs or listen to someone else trying to pronounce it
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i heard it multiple times today
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so i have to ask whose bright idea was it to put a javascript interpreter into the security policy server
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sorry, that was me. my bad
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buttfs lol
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Mr Dog posted:so i have to ask where is this?
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http://cgit.freedesktop.org/polkit/tree/src/polkitbackend/polkitbackendjsauthority.c i get the rationale behind it (afaik the code running on the JS interpreter isn't actually exposed to any untrusted input) but it still made me do a double take. it handles authorization, not authentication.
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I wrote a reasonable portion of the JS engine in question, and I'd be a *bit* worried about it (or any GCing language) in that capacity unless there's a really good model for how to handle failure of the hosting process due to memory exhaustion. it's harder to verify memory cleanliness with dynamic GCing languages, and closure-entrainment is a non-obvious hazard to many. OTOH, people can use jQuery to build auth plugins, so that longstanding hole in the universe of freedom has been filled.
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on the other hand, it crashes constantly in the JavaScript interpreter
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historically, that's usually because of mismanagement of GC'd pointers by the embedding app; pass in a dead pointer, suffer accordingly. I don't know that there's any pure JS you can feed to that engine that will cause a crash, given how widely it's tested by fuzzers and hundreds of millions of people on the web.
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I take it all back, linux is bad after all
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Subjunctive posted:closure-entrainment is a non-obvious hazard to many. what is this
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Avenging Dentist posted:is there a better VM that allows windows hosts because i'm about tired of virtualbox's poo poo have you considered QEMU, op?
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Subjunctive posted:I wrote a reasonable portion of the JS engine in question, and I'd be a *bit* worried about it (or any GCing language) in that capacity unless there's a really good model for how to handle failure of the hosting process due to memory exhaustion. it's harder to verify memory cleanliness with dynamic GCing languages, and closure-entrainment is a non-obvious hazard to many. We already don't too well on memory exhaustion, so don't worry about that. The answer is that this comes after eight years of a complex, custom ini-based language for interpreting rulesets since people wanted complex authentication checking rulesets. It's a completely custom module meant to make those people happy. JS was chosen since it's very likely already installed and has been battle-tested in browsers for security. We turn off the JIT and make sure to build a new JSContext and fully destroy it for every execution so that nothing can leak out. If you have a better idea for a secure interpreted language for complex ruleset checking that would fit our usecase, we'd be more than happy to insert it instead of JS.
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Suspicious Dish posted:We already don't too well on memory exhaustion, so don't worry about that. have you considered the C programming language, op?
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Yes. How would you recommend we interpret the C language in a safe and secure way to evaluate a complex ruleset?
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