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CuwiKhons posted:Joker apparently monitoring the rooms (since he knows when you knock a dude out). The thugs are wearing armbands monitoring their lifesigns. Joker sits at the monitoring station and can see that way wether a guy has been knocked out.
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So, I'm not terribly familiar with the Flash, but is he basically what happens when a happy, well adjusted person gets superpowers and decides to have a rad time with them and help people?
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Night10194 posted:So, I'm not terribly familiar with the Flash, but is he basically what happens when a happy, well adjusted person gets superpowers and decides to have a rad time with them and help people? Basically. Although one of his infrequent nemeses is actively trying to give him a tragic backstory by murdering his loved ones so that he'll become a more effective hero.
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Dec 19, 2014 22:16
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Onmi posted:It's opposite Reed Richards syndrome. Reed Richards is sort of accidentally 99% of the time written to be a tosser. Lex really IS an rear end in a top hat. This kinda depends on which Reed Richards we're talking about though, Ultimate Reed does go down the amoral route and becomes as much a villain, although I can't remember if that was just circumstantial because of the events or if it also had to do with the fact that he was Lex smart and just fell off the good guy wagon.
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Dec 19, 2014 22:18
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The defining character flaw of pre-flash Barry Allen is that he is always late.
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Night10194 posted:So, I'm not terribly familiar with the Flash, but is he basically what happens when a happy, well adjusted person gets superpowers and decides to have a rad time with them and help people? Flash's stories can have serious moments, but the Flash's in general are happy people. also really freaking awesome. Remember how I said that the 90's was like a real resurgance for DC in regards to their heroes? the flagship title at the time was JLA written by Grant Morrison.     
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I also enjoy how Strange somehow one-upped the stupidity of "blow the gently caress out of everyone" with "blow the gently caress out of yourself" Even stranger, that the delusional maniac who thinks he's invincible yet decided to program self destruct system.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:That being said, I absolutely adore the Protocol 10 segment. Gliding through the city while the Arkham City theme plays and trying to avoid the missile strikes is really great. As is ascending Wonder Tower. I just wish there was a boss fight with Strange. Hell, not just a boss fight, make the predator section bigger and going for real, with both Strange's Tyger guards and Bats pulling out all the stops. Make it akin to the Freeze battle in that it isn't just Bats doing the hunting, but him truly getting hunted in turn. Detective vision jamming, guys moving in groups on coordinated sweeps and and checking the hiding spots, strategically placed booby traps, gargoyles being systematically wrecked at the drop of a hat and so on. Bats hacking into the Tyger coms to mislead and distract guards, shutting down (or on - to blind night vision) the lights to create opportunities, using environmental bits to take out some and terrify the others etc. Make Bats and the player have to pull out all the stops because these guys aren't thugs - they're professionals and they've been preparing and training for this under Strange for a long drat time.
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Dec 19, 2014 22:46
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Actually, while he is making it look remarkably easy, that last arena on top of Wonder tower is a massive pain in the rear end to clear, especially on an challenge extreme run.
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Yeah, TYGER Guards aren't really all that impressive. Their one advantage over regular goons is that, since they've been brainwashed, they're unable to go into the same Terrified state that thugs are. So if you pop out at the last one and try to scare him, you're getting a bullet to the face.
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Oh yes. Yes it is  Hyper aware fast guards make for a miserable experience 
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anilEhilated posted:Actually, while he is making it look remarkably easy, that last arena on top of Wonder tower is a massive pain in the rear end to clear, especially on an challenge extreme run. It is, but mostly because the layout of the area, not because of the Tyger guys. It'd have been a hell of a lot better if you'd set the scene in a location a lot easier to sneak around in (once you made it that way because it starts off with Tyger having set up closed doors and booby traps to try and funnel you into the open), but made the Tyger guys themselves act and react with a competence completely unlike the thugs you're used to. Having them actually coordinate with each other to systematically counteract your normal tricks up to this point and actively hunt down Bats, only for Bats to go and pull out tricks he's never done in a predator section before (because it wasn't needed against your average thug band) would have made the fight a lot more atmospheric and fun imo. Basically, make it less a case of stalking thugs+1 in a very awkwardly laid out predator room and more of a deadly cat&mouse game against a squad of competent, highly-trained soldiers who have been preparing for this scenario and force Batman to pull out absolutely everything to survive and turn the tables on them. Magni fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Dec 20, 2014 |
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Onmi posted:Flash's stories can have serious moments, but the Flash's in general are happy people. And in that comic series the "hero" aliens execute 5 people among them are Wolverine and Dr. Doom.
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Dec 19, 2014 23:33
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The funny thing to do is freeze the last guard and try and unlock the door. The game just doesn't allow it.
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Oh yeah, doesn't that explosion mean that all of the tyger guards you beat unconscious died?
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Fabricated posted:Oh yeah, doesn't that explosion mean that all of the tyger guards you beat unconscious died? I'm sure at least some of their chunks landed in a Lazarus pit.
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Speaking of, Batman's "He'll need a Lazarus Pit" joke seems kind of dark considering he was trying to save him just minutes before and he just had his spine severed symbolically by the Arkham logo. And the pit can't bring back anyone who's completely dead.
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Batman seems pretty okay with people dying around him. I mean, he probably could have disabled those helicopters he was jumping on without too much trouble and stopped them from killing anymore people, but he wasn't really concerned with that. As long as he's not the one doing the killing, it doesn't seem to bother him too much.
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Kurieg posted:Speaking of, Batman's "He'll need a Lazarus Pit" joke seems kind of dark considering he was trying to save him just minutes before and he just had his spine severed symbolically by the Arkham logo.
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my dad posted:I'm sure at least some of their chunks landed in a Lazarus pit. One of those mooks becomes the Arkham Knight,calling it right now.
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You know, I can't help but wonder if you can stop the missile strikes temporarily with the disruptor.
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As a reminder, Strange is actually the first Batman villain- he appeared before joker in the comics. He's also relying on/a pawn of Ra's nigh-infinite funding and influence, which is why he has been able to do all of this.Kurieg posted:Speaking of, Batman's "He'll need a Lazarus Pit" joke seems kind of dark considering he was trying to save him just minutes before and he just had his spine severed symbolically by the Arkham logo. It can, at least in this universe. Ra's appears in Asylum as a corpse in the morgue, then disappears later in the game.
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If you go through the back door of the courthouse at anytime, you hear a sound like some machine turning on or being energized. It's the only time I have ever heard that sound. Neither of the front doors cause it. Just thought it was interesting and if anyone knew what it was about.
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BAILOUT MCQUACK! posted:If you go through the back door of the courthouse at anytime, you hear a sound like some machine turning on or being energized. It's the only time I have ever heard that sound. Neither of the front doors cause it. Just thought it was interesting and if anyone knew what it was about. Off the top of my head, I think it's that door in the basement I opened way back with the electric-charged batarang. The game doesn't have a "persistent open" setting for the door, it just has a "is the fuse box broken? If yes, open the door. If no, close the door." And the fuse box doesn't fix itself.
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dscruffy1 posted:Off the top of my head, I think it's that door in the basement I opened way back with the electric-charged batarang. The game doesn't have a "persistent open" setting for the door, it just has a "is the fuse box broken? If yes, open the door. If no, close the door." And the fuse box doesn't fix itself. I kind of figured it was something like that.
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Kurieg posted:Speaking of, Batman's "He'll need a Lazarus Pit" joke seems kind of dark considering he was trying to save him just minutes before and he just had his spine severed symbolically by the Arkham logo. Nope, Lazarus Pits can resurrect the dead. And while Batman may not have technically "saved" Ra's life, he did save Ra's. If al Ghul was caught in the explosion and completely obliterated, he wouldn't have been able to be revived. By throwing him out the window, not only did Batman give him an opportunity to be saved, (Which he squandered by trying to hara-kiri the both of them) he also ensured that Ra's could be revived.
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I would think that with a name like Lazarus Pit, its whole intention is bringing someone back from the dead.
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Ra's was dead in Arkham Asylum. You can find his corpse in the mortuary, I believe. It vanishes at one point, of course.
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Night10194 posted:So, I'm not terribly familiar with the Flash, but is he basically what happens when a happy, well adjusted person gets superpowers and decides to have a rad time with them and help people? Yeah. Another example is the classic Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle, who pretty much as soon as he got his powers told his family*. And then got a sorceress for a girlfriend. But nobody bought that book, mainly due to the killing off of the last Blue Beetle (despite the fact Jaime had massive respect for Ted, especially since he had alien exoskeletal armour that had weaponry up to 'possible theological implications'** level of power, while Ted had his wits and whatever gadgets he could come up with). But sadly no fun is allowed in the DC universe, so they got everything good about the book wrong in the reboot. *granted this was in fact a year later due to temporal shenanigans, but still, as soon as possible he disclosed to them. **Actual quote from the book.
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The whole "I can't tell my loved ones because it could put them in danger" thing in comics never made sense to me. I mean, look at the old Spider-Man films. Aunt May gets grabbed by Doc Ock before he evens knows that Peter is Spider-Man and Mary Jane gets kidnapped in every film. And despite that reasoning, he still kisses Gwen Stacy in public and on camera just to make forced drama with Mary Jane. 
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:The whole "I can't tell my loved ones because it could put them in danger" thing in comics never made sense to me. Nevermind that discovering a superhero's identity really shouldn't be that hard. Anyone with a brain must know that Batman gets his gadgetry from somewhere, so it would only take a few steps to discover that most of his machines are made by Wayne Enterprises. Or worse, Clark Kent, who conveniently disappears every time Superman has to save the day.
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John Liver posted:Nevermind that discovering a superhero's identity really shouldn't be that hard. Anyone with a brain must know that Batman gets his gadgetry from somewhere, so it would only take a few steps to discover that most of his machines are made by Wayne Enterprises. Or worse, Clark Kent, who conveniently disappears every time Superman has to save the day. I think Batman is supposed to get by because nobody really gets a good look at how he operates. They're just robbing a bank, and then there's smoke, and then they're swallowing their own teeth. With Superman, I think the idea is that he cultivates such a strong persona of meek incompetence with Clark, that anybody who suspects it would toss the idea right out. I know Lex Luthor was outright told Clark Kent was Superman once, looked over at Clark, and then threw the report away assuming it was garbage.
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Really, the fact that Superman is able to keep up a secret identity without a mask and a super-genius archnemesis like Lex Luthor is really amazing.
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Well, it definitely requires some amazing suspension of disbelief. I mean, as a non-comically groomed person, my first interpretation of that would be that that Luthor fellow isn't all that he's cracked up to be. edit: VVV I really don't see how that proves anything about his personal qualities. I guess what I'm trying to say that superheroes are less super and more abusing their respective worlds' idiocy. It's less "that Superman/Batman/whateverman is great" and more "that Luthor/Joker/baddymcmurder#238 is a complete twat and the authors are just inefficiently trying to convince me otherwise". anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Dec 20, 2014 |
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anilEhilated posted:Well, it definitely requires some amazing suspension of disbelief. I mean, as a non-comically groomed person, my first interpretation of that would be that that Luthor fellow isn't all that he's cracked up to be. To bear out your hypothesis: he does become president.
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He became president explicitly to gently caress with Superman. Lex stated outright that being President made him less powerful than he was before and wasted a tremendous amount of his time, but he knew it would make Superman angry so he went ahead with it. As for Batman's secret identity, there was some recent comic I didn't read where he did like a press conference as Bruce Wayne and said "So for the record, I bankroll Batman, just an fyi" which was a loving genius move. It immediately transfers suspicion off Bruce himself since clearly if he was Batman, he wouldn't be telling people that he provides Batman all his toys right? Clearly that would just be dumb and everybody knows Bruce Wayne is an idiot playboy anyway. Then it also significantly widens the pool of people who could possibly be Batman. Because yeah, before that you'd think "well it's gotta be somebody with enough money for all his lovely toys, as well as somebody who probably doesn't have a loving day job" so that limits the possibilities to somebody with a lot of money and from there it's not that hard to go "Bruce Wayne has a lot of money, a tragic backstory for motivation, a lot of mysterious injuries, and every time he adopts a new kid, Batman gets a new sidekick." But if you think that Bruce Wayne is just bankrolling Batman then okay, now it could be anybody in the city. It doesn't have to be a rich guy with a lot of free time, it could be any random buff dude on the street.
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CuwiKhons posted:He became president explicitly to gently caress with Superman. Lex stated outright that being President made him less powerful than he was before and wasted a tremendous amount of his time, but he knew it would make Superman angry so he went ahead with it. Although that also means that anyone wanting to hurt Batman can now target literally any aspect of Wayne Enterprises, so Bruce Wayne just put all his employees in harm's way.
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Assuming that isn't already the case. More than a few are gunning for Wayne Enterprises already, Cobblepot being a prime example.
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Prop Wash posted:Although that also means that anyone wanting to hurt Batman can now target literally any aspect of Wayne Enterprises, so Bruce Wayne just put all his employees in harm's way. It's a big corporation in comics, they're already in harm's way. "Hey Mugsy, I heard that Wayne Industries is moving a shipment of computer chips tonight, let's go rob the truck!" has the same result as "Hey Mugsy, let's mess with the Bat and blow up a truckful of Wayne Industries stuff!"
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