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zVxTeflon posted:Hes already number 2 after Tony what else could he be promoted to? The potential for more money
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I took a swing at a possible OP for a rewatch thread.quote:In this thread we'll be re-watching the entire series of The Sopranos, on a loose schedule of 2 episodes per week.
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Dec 12, 2014 09:51
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You forgot the word "crew" in the description for Syl. Hope this gets rolling. You may want to add that the episodes are all available on HBO go, as well as the new box set that just got released.
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Dec 12, 2014 10:24
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He was gay, Gary Cooper?
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Dec 12, 2014 12:39
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zVxTeflon posted:Hes already number 2 after Tony what else could he be promoted to? When Tony was in the hospital, Sil seemed to like the idea of being the Boss (until he tried it for a while, and got a taste of the agita that comes with it).
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Dec 12, 2014 16:49
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Pope Corky the IX posted:He was gay, Gary Cooper? Ranger Rick's a little light in the Timberlands.
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Dec 12, 2014 17:10
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It's not as cheap as it was for black friday or cyber monday but the blu ray box set is at $165 and says its marked down from $279 on amazon. Does it ever actually sell at $279 or do they just always have that big discount?
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Dec 12, 2014 18:21
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165 for the Sopranos? Hopefully it came with the full seasons of The Wire and Deadwood, and a blowjob. One hundred sixty five dollars.
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Dec 12, 2014 18:37
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Fragmented posted:165 for the Sopranos? Hopefully it came with the full seasons of The Wire and Deadwood, and a blowjob. One hundred sixty five dollars. Par for the course with HBO. They've always priced their box-sets that way, probably because they want their On-Demand services to continue to be relevant.
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Dec 12, 2014 18:39
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Also because people are willing to pay.
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Dec 12, 2014 18:43
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Did it go up when TPB got raided?
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Dec 12, 2014 18:55
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If I knew Blu Ray was going to be the standard for the next 10 years I'd jump all over it even if it was $300. $165 is like 3 dumb video games youll never play again. Practically free.
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Dec 12, 2014 19:11
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Well congrats on having money I guess. That's a third of my rent. The last games I bought were 20 bux each.
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Dec 12, 2014 19:29
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Thank you for the congratulations but its unwarranted. And I get that and certainly not trying to tell you how to spend your money. It's the only series I'd even consider paying for (other than seinfeld, hopefulyl one day) and I know I'd get hundreds of hours of entertainment out of it. I'm not buying the $165 one because I don't want to blu ray to be outdated in 5 years or something.
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Dec 12, 2014 19:51
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Yeah, no poo poo - I bought the seasons on DVD when they came out for like $99 each, so I spent way more than that the first time around. Which is why I won't be buying them again! I bought DVDs just in time for them to go obsolete, I don't want to do that again. Also it seems like other people are interested in doing a rewatch OP, so go for it.
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Dec 12, 2014 21:16
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As I stare at my Wire, Shield, and Friday Night Light DVDs I am thankful I never took the plunge with Sopranos for an obsolete medium. It's on Amazon Prime too, FYI. I'm actually doing a rewatch on Prime right now after I convinced my mom to do a first watch on my HBO Go account. That way we don't confuse each other while we watch at our own pace.
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Dec 12, 2014 22:44
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:It's not as cheap as it was for black friday or cyber monday but the blu ray box set is at $165 and says its marked down from $279 on amazon. Does it ever actually sell at $279 or do they just always have that big discount? I added it to my wish list the day it came out and it sat in the mid $200s until black Friday. It had to be selling at some rate.
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Dec 12, 2014 23:04
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I bought them for about 170  and its the only box set I've ever bought for Bluray. Its also one of the very few discs I own. The transfer is incredible and the features are good. I always splurge around Christmas time. But yeah, when the show actually aired, there is no way I could afford it. I lost my Dad last year and he was also a huge fan of the show so the money he left me helped pay for it.
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Dec 12, 2014 23:26
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Do the rewatch, I'd def be up for following along. Please though, try to keep each episode starter essay at like less than 800 words, cause it gets to be a job really quick and then its not fun anymore
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Dec 13, 2014 04:30
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zVxTeflon posted:Hes already number 2 after Tony what else could he be promoted to? Sil isn't Tony's #2, he's the consigliere. Mafia family structure is a little byzantine but you have the boss at the top, and the consigliere is attached to him like an aide-de-camp or advisor. The actual #2 guy is called the underboss, who is the guy who passes the boss's instructions to the rest of the family and makes sure they're followed. This is a little more obvious in the Lupertazzi Family, where Carmine is boss, Angelo Garepe is consigliere, and Johnny Sack is the underboss. When Carmine dies, Garepe isn't even considered as an option for successor, it's between Johnny Sack, Little Carmine, and Rusty Milio. Through most of the run, Tony is technically the underboss beneath Junior, but Junior is boss in name only. Tony is really in charge and acts as both boss and underboss. Sil is his consigliere, and he's not technically second-in-command. If you remember, when Tony is incapacitated and Sil is running the family, it seems to be understood that it's a temporary situation until Tony recovers or has to be replaced. Sil might be the successor but it isn't automatic, and some of the other characters (notably Vito Spatafore) put themselves forward. After Tony recovers he officially removes Junior from the leadership and I think he eventually starts to use Bobby Baccalieri as his underboss, functionally. Being consigliere puts Sil next to the boss, but at the same time it takes him out of the normal structure of the family--he doesn't have his own crew to run scams and kick up percentages to him. Instead, he runs a few family businesses like the Bing and probably shares part of the tribute paid to Tony. He could probably make a lot more money and exercise a lot more direct power as the head of a crew, for example the Aprile Crew is stated several times to be the bulk of the Soprano Family's income. In a lot of mafia families there's a "street boss" who is usually the top capo, the guy running the largest and most profitable crew. He's not part of the leadership but as a top earner, that capo has more responsibility and power, and is usually delegated the most important jobs (like fighting gang wars). To return to the example of the Lupertazzis, Rusty Milio appears to be their street boss, and he's actually offered the boss's chair before either Little Carmine or Johnny Sack, although he turns it down. Schenck v. U.S. fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Dec 13, 2014 |
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Dec 13, 2014 22:09
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EvanSchenck posted:The actual #2 ..... who is the guy who passes the boss's instructions to the rest of the family and makes sure they're followed. This is literally what he does throughout the entire series. quote:He could probably make a lot more money and exercise a lot more direct power as the head of a crew, for example the Aprile Crew is stated several times to be the bulk of the Soprano Family's income. None of the captains of that crew ever had more power or authority than Silvio.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:26
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Vito went from a background character of sort to one of my favorite characters, very interesting plotline, I feel terrible for him, but he's also shown he was cold blooded murdered many times, so eh.
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Dec 16, 2014 22:59
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Kurtofan posted:Vito went from a background character of sort to one of my favorite characters, very interesting plotline, I feel terrible for him, but he's also shown he was cold blooded murdered many times, so eh. Vito's conflict over being a gay man was handled really well, especially when he just up and murders that guy he rear-ended on the off chance that anyone finds out where he is. It really fits in to the intense paranoia and constant fear the mob members live with in addition to the fears of a closeted gay man being outed. Anyways, back to the Sopranos rewatch, next month it'll be the 16 anniversary of the Sopranos Airing, so I decided to make a schedule. 16 years to the day of the original airing. Worked out pretty well what with leap years and all. 1/10: The Sopranos. 1/17: 46 Long 1/24: Denial, Anger, Acceptance 1/31: Meadowlands 2/7: College 2/14: Pax Soprana 2/21: Down Neck 2/28: The Legend of Tennessee Moltisanti 3/7: Boca 3/14: A Hit is a Hit 3/21: Nobody Knows Anything 3/28: Isabella 4/4: I Dream of Jeannie Cusamano They're all Saturdays, when there's poo poo TV on anyways even during sweeps, and if we do a 9pm EST time that should work for most goons across the US to live watch and discuss.
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Dec 16, 2014 23:21
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Great! Thanks and are you gonna make a new thread for it?
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Dec 17, 2014 03:20
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The thread should get to 100 pages first. Good round number.
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Dec 17, 2014 03:51
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Hi guys just this very minute finished watching the entire six series for the very first time. I've avoided this thread for spoilers naturally but will now take a few days to read over it and read everyone's opinions. i felt sick during that final diner scene, i really would love to know what happens and felt numb when the screen went black. i got played! I've enjoyed the six seasons, and feel it's my second favourite TV show of all time (after the Wire). I grew to love Christopher, Paulie, and even didn't despise AJ by the end. Felt so sorry for Junior in that final episode. Felt a bit uneasy with the Vito storyline in series 6, it seemed a bit *off*. Just...wow. What a series. I may be seven years too late, but it was superbly acted. I've loved watching it.
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Dec 18, 2014 21:38
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Man, what a way to go, Chris. This last half season feels weird because Chrissy went out before things started to heat up between Tony and Phil (I'm guessing this is how poo poo is going to go down, I haven't seen it yet). He pretty much out on a whimper, not a bang, but I don't mean that in a negative way, to me it reflects his status as a fuckup in Tony's eyes, he had so much promise but wasted it all.
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Dec 19, 2014 00:07
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britishbornandbread posted:i felt sick during that final diner scene, i really would love to know what happens and felt numb when the screen went black. i got played! Do me a favor and watch that scene again. Tell me if it changes how you feel Tony is feeling/acting/reacting to everything going on around him. The first time I watched it I was like you, and I also feel like I projected my own thoughts and feelings onto Tony, because the way I felt he was acting/feeling changed entirely once I knew how everything ended and was able to rewatch it without the knowledge that this was the final scene of the final episode coloring my perception of what was to come.
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Dec 19, 2014 00:16
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Thought my dvd player crashed or something at the end eh. I can see how the ending was controversial, I'm not sure what to make of it right away, but I'm not disappointed. I'm a bit disappointed AJ and Meadow's storylines took up so much time in the final episodes, those always were the least interesting bits to me.
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Dec 19, 2014 12:04
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Kurtofan posted:Thought my dvd player crashed or something at the end eh. I think the last season plays better the second time once you know it isn't building to an "event" of some kind. I remember wondering why the kids were getting so much screen time and how that would play into whatever the Big End of the story would be, which made me impatient. On a rewatch, once you know that the scenes are independent of any kind of overarching story then you can appreciate them for what they are and focus on the themes rather than the plot. ymmv
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Dec 19, 2014 16:54
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Ishamael posted:I think the last season plays better the second time once you know it isn't building to an "event" of some kind. I remember wondering why the kids were getting so much screen time and how that would play into whatever the Big End of the story would be, which made me impatient. On a rewatch, once you know that the scenes are independent of any kind of overarching story then you can appreciate them for what they are and focus on the themes rather than the plot. I feel this way about every season actually because when I first saw the show I was a teenager and I was watching it for those "events"(ie someone getting whacked). It wasn't until years later that I could appreciate each scene individually, and I could recognize the show for the piece of amazing art that it is. The final scene does change once you go back and rewatch it without all the unbearable tension. Even so, the scene has a lot of Tony POV shots, which do seem to be there to put the viewer directly into Tony's head so that we can feel all that tension as viscerally as possible. So I do think the intention was for the audience to be making GBS threads themselves during that scene, even if Tony himself doesn't appear to be feeling the same thing we are.
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Dec 19, 2014 17:03
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Holy poo poo I'm watching an episode of Stargate Atlantis starring Bobby Baccala and Phil Leotardo as two poker players.
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Dec 20, 2014 19:04
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Kurtofan posted:Holy poo poo I'm watching an episode of Stargate Atlantis starring Bobby Baccala and Phil Leotardo as two poker players. The episode is Vegas. It was a CSI homage or something to celebrate the end of the Stargate series.
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Dec 20, 2014 19:58
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pentyne posted:The episode is Vegas. It was a CSI homage or something to celebrate the end of the Stargate series. That's kind of weird, but pretty cool. 
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Dec 20, 2014 22:54
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Kurtofan posted:Thought my dvd player crashed or something at the end eh. They had great payoffs thought. Meadow is well on her way to becoming a mob wife, and AJ is working with little Carmine. Tony and Carm thought their kids would be upstanding straight laced members of the community, but they will end up just like their father. A criminal constantly looking over their shoulder, and waiting for that knock on door, or the hitman waiting in the bushes.
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Dec 21, 2014 02:26
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Pops Ghostly posted:A criminal constantly looking over their shoulder, and waiting for that knock on door, or the hitman waiting in the bushes. I'd say more that they'll end up just like their father (and mother) in that they'll be wealthy, entitled assholes who still complain bitterly about how "tough" they've got it, and be completely oblivious to the hardships and struggles of "normal" people. Every so often they'll get a bug up their rear end about some issue/cause which they'll inevitably make all about themselves, and after obsessing over it for a few weeks/months they'll get distracted and move on to something else.
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Jerusalem posted:I'd say more that they'll end up just like their father (and mother) in that they'll be wealthy, entitled assholes who still complain bitterly about how "tough" they've got it, and be completely oblivious to the hardships and struggles of "normal" people. Every so often they'll get a bug up their rear end about some issue/cause which they'll inevitably make all about themselves, and after obsessing over it for a few weeks/months they'll get distracted and move on to something else. Yeah that is my reading as well. Like McNulty from The Wire, it's always about him.
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Season 1 thread is up Feel free to tell me what to fix/add. Even better just write up something I can easily quote and give you credit for. I'm really hoping we get at least 1-2 new people to watch the show with us so we can watch their reactions and speculations and hopefully engage them without spoiling anything and watch as new Sopranos fans are made. pentyne fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Dec 21, 2014 |
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Basebf555 posted:I feel this way about every season actually because when I first saw the show I was a teenager and I was watching it for those "events"(ie someone getting whacked). It wasn't until years later that I could appreciate each scene individually, and I could recognize the show for the piece of amazing art that it is. Which is pretty much what AJ says in the last scene. Focus on the good times!
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I'm watching Sopranos for the first time, part way through Season 5 right now and trying not to read spoilers The scene at the end of Season 4 where Tony held carmela against the wall then punched it is the most intense anger coming from an actor I have ever seen, I was actually afraid Also Paulie is funny
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