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CuwiKhons posted:Dent definitely knows right from wrong, he just believes that the choices we make all come down to fate. If his coin comes up tails and he ends up shooting somebody, he understands that it was morally wrong, but lady luck has made her choice. It's also important to note that, I don't think the coin decides 'what do I do'. Like you can't tell him to stab himself in the face with a broken bottle and then he has to flip a coin to decide if he should do it. The coin just decides which 'personality' makes the call for this or that decision.
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He definitely uses the coin to decide what to do. Even in Arkham City, he flips the coin to see whether or not he should let Catwoman go before he gets ready to shoot her. And he also flips to see whether or not he should talk to Strange in the interview tapes, which is why Strange had it taken away.
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Dec 23, 2014 05:25
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Riiight, but the point is that the coin doesn't have a list of "If heads, do this, if tails, do this." His split personalities each make a decision as to what a heads or a tails will represent, and then the coin flip determines that. So, for example, in the catwoman situation Harvey's "good" personality might want to let bygones be bygones, and not murder an innocent (in a manner of speaking...) woman. His evil side might want to drop catwoman in acid. Out of all the possible permutations of what heads and tails could mean, (Bake her a cake/steal her wallet, give her what she came for/cut off her hands, team up with her/have her pulled apart by a team of horses) those two specific outcomes have been decided by Harvey's dual personalities. It's not like Catwoman could say, "Ok, you got me. Heads you let me go, tails you hit me a few times and throw me in a dumpster", he's going to choose what he wants heads and tails to mean.
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Dec 23, 2014 05:53
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Cador_2004 posted:I disagree. It can be noted that the vial was full before the blast, and was half full after. Batman was cured by someone while he was out of it. Though that quickly turns things into wild mass guessing territory trying to figure out who did it, personally my money's on Talia. I mean come on, why wouldn't she have bullet-proof armor? Batman was cured onscreen when he drank some of the cure, making the vial at half full before the blast.
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Dec 23, 2014 06:59
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Captain Bravo posted:(perfect explanation) Exactly this; in the specific case of the courtroom, both clean and scar are pissed - she broke in and was trying to steal his stuff. Scar wants to shoot her in the head, right now, as a warning to anyone else who dares screw with him. Clean wants to put her on trial and execute her with due process, because he wants to feel like justice is being properly served [in shooting her in the head]. Neither side is inclined to let her go. He flips the coin, it comes up clean, "This court is now in session."
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Dec 23, 2014 13:56
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Ohh, I see. That makes a lot more sense.
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Dec 23, 2014 16:22
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Christmas comes early. Surprise! Catwoman's got a bit of post-game to get through, Calendar Man's got some hot dates, and there's THE TOUGHEST COMBAT CHALLENGE MAP. The Cat's Meow/Polsy - Interview tape: Catwoman 3Bonus 2: 12 Calendar Days of Christmas/Polsy  DLC Combat Challenge:Joker's Carnival/Polsy with CatwomanThis challenge map was tough to get into, took me about an hour to get this run from having never done it before. Discendo Vox thought he'd be clever and challenge me to do it with Catwoman, so I recorded this maybe a little after I started the LP. WELL WHO'S LAUGHING NOW? It's a different kind of map, you want to crank your combo multiplier as quick as possible to act as score insurance in case you get hit. 20 points for a critical strike doesn't seem like much but 20x200 adds up pretty quick, and one million is a lot of points. Bank it as soon as the Titan thug starts walking out, otherwise you're wasting time/scoring opportunities. And you might get hit and lose it, and losing 500K points and a good minute+ in time is tragic. There's an endurance combat map that just goes as long as you can, this one you're on a time limit. I wouldn't even worry much about the variation bonuses, when you're going for a million a thousand is kind of worthless. Something worth noting however is that any time a thug takes a gun from the case at level 4, hitting him and making him drop it will make everyone forget about it. I'm not too sure why. You can also take out the Joker with a beatdown takedown if you're so inclined, he's immune to pretty much everything else. Getting that much free time can be dicey though. It's also not very upgrade dependent, I got this score on my newer file about a month back. The file that didn't have any Catwoman combat upgrades aside from critical strikes. 
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Dec 23, 2014 17:06
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"If I get my hands on that richboy Bruce Wayne I'll buy me an instant parole" Yes, because you can totally bribe yourself out of this place, which is why Bruce Wayne totally isn't in there anymore, oh wait.
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Dec 23, 2014 18:38
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Man, Strange is one /sick/ sadistic son of a bitch...
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Dec 23, 2014 18:58
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For a guy who was supposed to be a major gang leader, Two Face didn't have a lot of presence in this game, huh? I'm also surprised that Catwoman has absolutely NOTHING to say about Joker dying.
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Dec 23, 2014 22:27
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The thing is, Two-Face isn't a major gang leader in Arkham City. The turf war is pretty much exclusively between Joker and Penguin - Harvey only has the area around the courthouse in Park Row to call his own (the further you get from the Courthouse in Park Row, the fewer Two-Face thugs you run into. Most of them are faction-less orange jumpsuited thugs). Penguin doesn't consider him enough of a threat to focus on him but you can bet that if he'd managed to wipe out Joker, he would have turned around and crushed Two-Face's little holdings. Two-Face's men are extremely loyal to him and noisy about how they're going to take over, but the gang doesn't actually have much in the way of power until Batman takes Penguin out and Two-Face's gang is able to push into the Bowery and the Museum.
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Dec 23, 2014 23:19
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Holy poo poo, I'd never seen that DLC before, but that looks fun as hell. Man, I'm really rusty at Arkham combat but watching some of these videos is really making me want to go back and play some challenge maps.Hobgoblin2099 posted:I'm also surprised that Catwoman has absolutely NOTHING to say about Joker dying. She probably just muttered "loving finally" under her breath like everyone else in Gotham off-camera.
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Dec 23, 2014 23:35
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I wonder if Strange will be credited with killing Joker seeing as his body was found in the aftermath of Protocol 10 as far as the general public of Gotham knows.
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Dec 23, 2014 23:41
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I really hated the Catwoman - TwoFace section. I didn't enjoy playing Catwoman at the best of times, but changing the rules of a Predator section at the end of the game was just aggravating.
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Dec 23, 2014 23:51
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Yeah, Two-Face really is kind of this game's whipping boy. I don't know much about the character, but this game makes him look like a total pushover. Although that last Predator room is super-annoying because the thugs always respawn, so you can't thin out the patrols at all, and Two-Face will constantly blind-fire at hiding spots, so if you aren't careful he can just randomly pick the place you're hiding and start shelling it. Also, in the video all the thugs were pretty grouped up, but that never happens for me when I play this. They always spread out everywhere whenever I try this thing. EDIT: quote:I wonder if Strange will be credited with killing Joker seeing as his body was found in the aftermath of Protocol 10 as far as the general public of Gotham knows. I think the idea is supposed to be that, with Batman carrying the body out and all, most people believe Batman killed him.
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Dec 23, 2014 23:54
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Oh yes, one last insulting thing re. Catwoman's design that was even worse than I remembered it; the battle damage. Batman's battle damage does not show nearly as much skin as Selina's.
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Dec 24, 2014 00:33
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Samovar posted:Oh yes, one last insulting thing re. Catwoman's design that was even worse than I remembered it; the battle damage. Batman's battle damage does not show nearly as much skin as Selina's. It also looks terrible. I know all the 'battle damage' are just decals slapped on top of the normal texture, but it's really obvious with her.
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Dec 24, 2014 00:35
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Nalesh posted:"If I get my hands on that richboy Bruce Wayne I'll buy me an instant parole" Cobblepot's got the hookup, and he also wants Wayne like nobody else. If a thug were able to nab Wayne penguin could probably find a way to make an escape happen.
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dscruffy1 posted:
 ) - the bank actually has 8 levels. If you run the whole gauntlet without cashing in, right after defeating Titan thug you'll be rewarded with a million points and about three minutes of extra time, after which bank resets and you can run the whole gauntlet again, if you're feeling masochistic today  Me, I just spent that three extra minutes beating thugs without going above lv3 and without moving the camera too much (so the game doesn't get the chance to remove bodies), so every defeated thugs ends up on the growing pile of bodies
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Dec 24, 2014 03:29
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Gothsheep posted:It also looks terrible. I know all the 'battle damage' are just decals slapped on top of the normal texture, but it's really obvious with her. How did she manage to get rips through the front (and back!) of her outfit which show burns and cuts, but her completely exposed bosom is just a little dirty?
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Dec 24, 2014 06:40
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gently caress that last predator room just because when I did it on my first go-around, I didn't realize the thugs were respawning until I had gotten accidentally shot down to a sliver of health, and only then did I realize that Harvey was not an instant KO as soon as you hit the takedown button behind him.
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Dec 24, 2014 06:47
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Albu-quirky Guy posted:How did she manage to get rips through the front (and back!) of her outfit which show burns and cuts, but her completely exposed bosom is just a little dirty? It's so obviously simple. Men get Battle Damage. Women get Sexy Battle Damage.
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Dec 24, 2014 06:58
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dscruffy1 posted:
Seriously would it kill them to think of a different prejorative to use for her? I mean I don't think anyone called her the obvious "pussy" yet. Unless that's somehow paradoxically more offensive than calling her a bitch. Or just not refer to the only actively visible female character like that constantly, that would be even better. Kurieg fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Dec 24, 2014 |
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Dec 24, 2014 06:59
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Kurieg posted:Someone get two face and his goons a thesaurus. They seem to be stuck on 'bitch'. Hey, you can't use dirtier, worse pejoratives with a T rating! Think of the
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Dec 24, 2014 07:44
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Makes me wonder why Two-Face is in the game to begin with. All that effort of modeling him, his thugs, the courthouse, all their dialogue, the incidental dialogue lines and stuff... and for what? A glorified tutorial and a DLC mediocre predator mission. Just doesn't seem worth it to me.
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Dec 24, 2014 07:59
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Kurieg posted:Someone get two face and his goons a thesaurus. They seem to be stuck on 'bitch'. Calling her a pussy would almost certainly offend more people than calling her a bitch. Also, what else exactly should they call her? What would you call the crazy kung-fu cat lady who is stealing your poo poo and beating up all of your guys?
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Dec 24, 2014 08:00
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TwoPair posted:Hey, you can't use dirtier, worse pejoratives with a T rating! Think of the BottledBodhisvata posted:Calling her a pussy would almost certainly offend more people than calling her a bitch. Also, what else exactly should they call her? What would you call the crazy kung-fu cat lady who is stealing your poo poo and beating up all of your guys? "It's that Witch!"  kaosdrachen posted:Man, Strange is one /sick/ sadistic son of a bitch... Yeah... he gives the order to kill dozens of inmates (with some political prisoners in the mix), but him menacing a single woman makes you realize that? Not saying he is not a son of a bitch, just saying you should've realized it waaaayy sooner...
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I'm not convinced he even had whats-her-name. We only have his word for it. I mean I wouldn't put it past him. The guy will kidnap the mayor right out of his house and throw him in that prison, but still, all we know is that he got on the radio and was like, "Hey, you know that girl I told you to target that you're totally aiming at right now just nod your head if you know exactly what I'm talking about? Perfect, now get ready to pull the trigger just keep getting ready I'll give you the signal any second now..."
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Strange most definitely would've had Holly killed, just so that HE'D know that he did it.Kurieg posted:Someone get two face and his goons a thesaurus. They seem to be stuck on 'bitch'. The worst thing is that it's not exclusive to Catwoman. A number of Joker's thugs refer to Harley that way, as well as a few of the female doctors. I think someone even says that about Poison Ivy, too. And then you have Jack Ryder saying things like "No way I'm going to let that Vale bitch steal my story". On the topic of Vicki Vale, how is it that she didn't get thrown into Arkham City at the beginning of the game, anyway? Jack Ryder did, but not her, even though she was there at Bruce's protest.
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Nalesh posted:I remember watching something from one of the animated series where luthor like mind controls flash, takes off his mask and pretty much goes "I have no idea who this is" I remember the first time I saw that episode, I didn't see how it ended, because after Lex said that, I was laughing so hard for the next ~45 minutes that I missed the rest of the show. Ended up finding it on Youtube and bookmarking it, so whenever I'm feeling down, I can just watch it and start laughing hysterically again for a while. Cheers me right up. I also got the $10 Batman Bundle, despite the fact that I really have no idea what a "Season Pass" even is, or does?
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thetrueoskar posted:I also got the $10 Batman Bundle, despite the fact that I really have no idea what a "Season Pass" even is, or does?
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anilEhilated posted:Steamese for All DLC, I believe. Unless you're gearbox
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Steamese for Known-At-Release DLC might be better translation, or did Gearbox skip some when they went straight to... Dragon Keep?
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GuyUpNorth posted:Steamese for Known-At-Release DLC might be better translation, or did Gearbox skip some when they went straight to... Dragon Keep? unless I'm mistaken they had two season passes
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Strange most definitely would've had Holly killed, just so that HE'D know that he did it.
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Nalesh posted:unless I'm mistaken they had two season passes Not quite, Borderlands 2 had a season pass which extended to the 4 campaign DLC's, everything else was stated to not be a part of it, for what it's worth, most of the extra stuff was really cheap, but, that's for the Borderlands thread!
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Calling her a pussy would almost certainly offend more people than calling her a bitch. Also, what else exactly should they call her? What would you call the crazy kung-fu cat lady who is stealing your poo poo and beating up all of your guys? It's not that they call her a bitch that bothers me. It's that they call her a bitch every 10 seconds, and they call her, Ivy, and Harley bitches pretty much every single time they talk about them, and it's just loving constant. It's grating and it's unnecessary. It's just Rocksteady trying to be grim and gritty by throwing curse words every chance they get and it makes the game really annoying to play as a woman. Hobgoblin2099 posted:On the topic of Vicki Vale, how is it that she didn't get thrown into Arkham City at the beginning of the game, anyway? Jack Ryder did, but not her, even though she was there at Bruce's protest. There were loads of reporters there and Jack Ryder's the only reporter we see nabbed. If Strange knows about the Creeper then Ryder was probably targeted deliberately and the other reporters ignored.
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GilliamYaeger posted:Vicki isn't a superhero. Jack Ryder is. CuwiKhons posted:If Strange knows about the Creeper Oh right.
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I don't think Ryder's the Creeper in the Arkham-verse... yet, at least. He probably wouldn't be getting his rear end kicked and cowering whenever we see him if he had superpowers.
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I thought there was a Riddle in Asylum relating him to the Creeper, unless I'm just thinking of the corresponding profile that Scruffy put up.
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