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Finished my first squad of Stormtroopers (don't you dare call them Militarum Tempestus!) for my Valhallans:        And just some detail of the bases, which have some grody old weathered helmets on them:  
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Hey SRM, I really dig that color theme. The white armor and olive green bolters combo rocks.Ugleb posted:As a bit of background, I have recently been lured back down the rabbit hole of wargaming and model painting (after about 15 years away) and am starting up a PHR army for Dropzone Commander. I'm looking for some advice/input on my colour scheme, I'm trying to keep it simple and subtle. I started with the vague idea of urban camo and went down a two-tone grey path. Sup PHR buddy. I'm doing my theme exactly the opposite of yours- bight primary colors. That said, most DZC themes are trying to be realistic, so look at actual urban camouflage for inspiration. Urban often has blues and whites in addition to grey. Right now all your colors compliment each other, which makes for a nice subtle look, but if you use an accent color used in urban camo (white or light blue) it will draw the eye while keeping your 'realistic' theme. I'd consider using grey colors that both share blue undertones (like 105 + 107 from Numlock's link). For an accent a white or cool white would really go well if you put it on just a few areas such as the cockpits. For the metal parts you can stick with silver, tin, or copper. Also consider hitting all the parts except the white with a burnt umber or black wash to bring out the contrast. As for highlights, I recommend drybrushing a bright metallic silver. This is super easy and will make your models 'pop' while givingthem a semi-worn look. Best of all, it won't look out of place on a realistic urban theme like clean line highlights would.
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Dec 23, 2014 09:46
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SRM posted:Nice job! Where are their greatcoats and fluffy hats? They look cold  (Nice job!)
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Dec 23, 2014 11:05
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SRM posted:Finished my first squad of Stormtroopers (don't you dare call them Militarum Tempestus!) for my Valhallans: Awesome as usual. 
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Dec 23, 2014 11:58
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Dec 23, 2014 12:19
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Frobbe posted:
1) Autocannons on Chimeras are really powerful, I'm glad they aren't ubiquitous. 2) How are you going to paint the treads? Plenty of options for colors that go well with grey.
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Dec 23, 2014 13:45
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After a few busy weeks did some painting. This time a Rackham, Griffin Darkness Hunter. Got some bits I need to touch up (photography betrays all), but other wise it got me back into the swing of things as I work on more important things.
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Post 9-11 User posted:1) Autocannons on Chimeras are really powerful, I'm glad they aren't ubiquitous. i'm pondering going with a brass trim like on my other chimeras, then dirty them right the gently caress up with city/ruin themed dirt/dust/rubble.  one of my old chimeras, that i might redo in my new color scheme. the black you see there is the primer and that was before i dared to do proper highlighting and whatnot.also more autocannons more better. for 5 points they're essential!
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Dec 23, 2014 17:16
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Yay T-35s, everyone's favourite useless interbellum money sink. How come the one in the back has no antenna? Also, are there no rear facing machineguns in the main turrets in this kit?
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Dec 23, 2014 17:25
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..And does anyone make it in 1/56?
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Dec 23, 2014 17:35
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thespaceinvader posted:Where are their greatcoats and fluffy hats? They look cold berzerkmonkey posted:No impressed - they were released well after you were born. Try again with the old plastic Stormtroopers and come back. 
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Dec 23, 2014 18:19
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Ensign Expendable posted:Yay T-35s, everyone's favourite useless interbellum money sink. How come the one in the back has no antenna? Also, are there no rear facing machineguns in the main turrets in this kit? From what I've read often only the company/battalion command tanks would have the horseshoe antenna, because in the pre-war period they were the only ones with transmitters. I think by the time 1939 rolls around they all had both but they didn't need the huge rear end horseshoe antennas, but I think it looked cool so that's how I modeled them. There were rear turret machine-guns provided in the kit but I ended up using them on a pile of Zvelda T-34's I had to give them obvious hull machineguns.
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Dec 23, 2014 19:12
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SRM posted:Well it was the helmets or the berets, and I think they'd be even chillier in those! As an added bonus, I can save the berets for the Spetsnaz Scout Marines I plan to add some day. I used to have a set - I'll see if I can find them to give to you. I can't remember if I sold them or not...
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Dec 23, 2014 19:17
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Thanks for the PHR colour scheme tips Numlock & BULBASOR, I'm chewing them over!
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Numlock posted:From what I've read often only the company/battalion command tanks would have the horseshoe antenna, because in the pre-war period they were the only ones with transmitters. I think by the time 1939 rolls around they all had both but they didn't need the huge rear end horseshoe antennas, but I think it looked cool so that's how I modeled them. Only tanks that were supposed to be used in large units (T-26, BT) had radios restricted to platoon commanders and above, tanks that were theoretically subordinate to Stavka and could be used independently all had radios (T-28, T-35). You're correct to assume that late model T-35s didn't have huge antennas, but they still had visible external ones. You can see it in this photo, it's that ball in a cup looking device to the left of the hatch. 
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Dec 23, 2014 22:49
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Well, I couldn't find a 1/56 or 28mm T-35, but I did find a 1:50 papercraft kit here: (not mine) I've got to admit this looks a lot better than I thought a papercraft could. I might make this my big fun Summer project, using the plans as plasticard templates, chopping up a FOR RENT sign and bending paperclips.
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Dec 24, 2014 02:19
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berzerkmonkey posted:I used to have a set - I'll see if I can find them to give to you. I can't remember if I sold them or not... Dooe! Let me know if they turn up, I'd gladly take them off your hands.
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Dec 24, 2014 08:03
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I've started doing commissions again, feels great to be painting Warmachine stuff! I have a question though: a potential commission wants this crest on his knights, and I told him no way I could paint this by hand.  He said if I couldn't paint it by hand, then he won't hire me. I said if I could paint that well freehand, I'd be winning competitions and poo poo. I said transfers are probably the way to go, and sent him this link. http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2007/07/tutorial-custom-decal-sheets.html Has anyone used this method? How well did it work?
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Dec 24, 2014 17:00
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I use the custom decals all the time because I'm poo poo at freehand. It's very easy and works well, especially if you don't have any white in the logo/design you're trying to do (which it looks like you don't - you may have to tweak the color on the mask).
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Dec 24, 2014 17:39
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I don't even think I could paint that freehand on a Knights shoulder pad. And if I could, it certainly wouldn't be quick.
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Dec 24, 2014 18:58
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Yeah looks like he's not gonna hire me. I said $300 for a top quality paintjob on a knight and he said that was way too much. Sheesh. Anyways, I'm going to give the decals a shot sometime, and I picked up some watercolor paints to try washes with them!
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Dec 24, 2014 19:49
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crime fighting hog posted:Yeah looks like he's not gonna hire me. I said $300 for a top quality paintjob on a knight and he said that was way too much. People just dont understand how long it takes to paint things, and if you want "top" quality it takes even longer. A top quality Knight would take what, 15 hours of work Id say. at $300 thats $15/hr good luck finding a good artist in any field that will work for that little. This is why I wont ever paint for anyone else, that and im not that good 
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Dec 24, 2014 19:56
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/\/\ Yeah, this. I've painted stuff for friends free just because I wanted to paint it, and I just finished a small diorama for my wife as a christmas gift, but I won't open the can of worms of accepting money for it. crime fighting hog posted:Yeah looks like he's not gonna hire me. I said $300 for a top quality paintjob on a knight and he said that was way too much. People have completely unrealistic expectations about commission painting. Good luck to that guy finding someone to paint that crest freehand on shoulderpads and have it not look like poo poo for less than what you charged him. It's like web design. People think it's just easy bullshit that they shouldn't have to pay much for, but they can't do it themselves.
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Dec 24, 2014 19:57
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Not to turn this into a bitchfest but yeah, this is the third guy in a row who asked for top quality stuff then balked at my pricing or asked why it would take more than a month to paint 3000 points of space marines.
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LumberingTroll posted:People just dont understand how long it takes to paint things, and if you want "top" quality it takes even longer. A top quality Knight would take what, 15 hours of work Id say. at $300 thats $15/hr good luck finding a good artist in any field that will work for that little. This is why I wont ever paint for anyone else, that and im not that good A top quality knight would be a weeks work since you could do some ludicrous things on those flat panels. I put 20+ into most of my Primarchs and if I was to paint a knight, even with liberal airbrush work to do the boring bits I'd be looking at 25 to 30 for my best. Most people that paint commission work do it so close to minimum wage its not feasible.
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I estimated around 30 since he wanted me to paint a custom resin base too. Which he asked me to sculpt. And I said no. Jesus.
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Dec 24, 2014 20:11
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Less talking, more painting golden daemon quality work for pennies per hour.
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Dec 24, 2014 20:14
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serious gaylord posted:A top quality knight would be a weeks work since you could do some ludicrous things on those flat panels. I put 20+ into most of my Primarchs and if I was to paint a knight, even with liberal airbrush work to do the boring bits I'd be looking at 25 to 30 for my best. Most people that paint commission work do it so close to minimum wage its not feasible. I don't think he meant a Knight Titan. I think he meant a warmahordes model.
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The Sisko posted:Almost done with my Tetras. Just got finish the udders inside. Also did up thier flying base because I'm not a big fan of the transparent. C&C welcome. "How's it going back there, Bob?" "Can't see poo poo!" "Keep up the good work"
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Dec 24, 2014 20:38
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crime fighting hog posted:I estimated around 30 since he wanted me to paint a custom resin base too. Which he asked me to sculpt. And I said no. Just out of curiosity, what would you charge for "just get this table ready so I don't have to do it myself" work?
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Dec 24, 2014 20:40
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JoshTheStampede posted:I don't think he meant a Knight Titan. I think he meant a warmahordes model. Arent they tiny? That would make it take even longer.
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JoshTheStampede posted:I don't think he meant a Knight Titan. I think he meant a warmahordes model. Nah, he said "knights" and there's nothing in Warmahordes you'd call a knight that you could fit that sort of crest on.
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Dec 24, 2014 20:51
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I meant the big huge 40k Imperial Knight guys. He wanted three of them painted, two of which are half painted so he wanted me to strip them and reassemble them. And for a "basic" paint job I'd charge about $120. Hard and fast rule for basic jobs is 90 percent of the model's cost, but with 40k that's really hosed up because the prices are so inflated.
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Dec 24, 2014 20:58
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crime fighting hog posted:I meant the big huge 40k Imperial Knight guys. He wanted three of them painted, two of which are half painted so he wanted me to strip them and reassemble them. Haha holy poo poo that's even worse. He wanted 3 Knights cleaned and assembled with custom freehand work and custom-sculpted gigantic resin bases and thinks he can get that anywhere for under what you quoted him. Ok buddy.
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Dec 24, 2014 21:08
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Thank Jesus my current client is so chill. Pays decent, and lets me take my time considering, ya know, I work 50 hours a week and have something resembling a social life. Hey, where's the best place to buy Vallejo air?
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JoshTheStampede posted:Haha holy poo poo that's even worse. He wanted 3 Knights cleaned and assembled with custom freehand work and custom-sculpted gigantic resin bases and thinks he can get that anywhere for under what you quoted him. Ok buddy. He'd be looking at at least £200 per Knight, even from the airbrush jockeys.
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Dec 24, 2014 21:15
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crime fighting hog posted:Hey, where's the best place to buy Vallejo air? In the U.S.? TheWarStore. I get my Air paint there and they'll ship it all for just $7.
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Slimnoid posted:In the U.S.? TheWarStore. I get my Air paint there and they'll ship it all for just $7. For a bunch of it, this is correct. If you're only getting a couple bottles, then ebay is probably cheaper.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Just out of curiosity, what would you charge for "just get this table ready so I don't have to do it myself" work? Industry standard depending on country is like 15-65 for infantry depending on how painted you want it. Best price for money you'll get is dudes painting out of Poland where wargaming is popular and wages/employment are low or France where heavy income assistance means you can live a (lovely but lazy) life of under the table miniature painting. China is also cheap but a lot of people get burned negotiating with east Asia companies for painting services or get even sub-BTP level work, if you know how to contact the right people you can get great work done for cheap but good luck on Alibaba.
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Exinos posted:Less talking, more painting golden daemon quality work for pennies per hour. Is that you, blue table painting?
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