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Computer viking posted:Over here in euroland, a friend of mine used to joke that he should start robbing banks in his late-90's dark red Toyota estate, since nobody would notice what he was driving. That thing was so nondescript it was almost impressive. I'm pretty certain I could rip by a cop at 100 over the limit in our Corolla and they'd just wonder why it got so windy. Corolla's are completely invisible to police until they're over 15 years old and run down. Then you're getting pulled over constantly for suspicions of being black or dealing drugs.
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Computer viking posted:Over here in euroland, a friend of mine used to joke that he should start robbing banks in his late-90's dark red Toyota estate, since nobody would notice what he was driving. That thing was so nondescript it was almost impressive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrFFdvgm9fc&t=73s
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Dec 30, 2014 19:00
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Terrible Robot posted:They're so drat terrible though, I cannot recommend following through with this.
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Computer viking posted:Over here in euroland, a friend of mine used to joke that he should start robbing banks in his late-90's dark red Toyota estate, since nobody would notice what he was driving. That thing was so nondescript it was almost impressive. In kiwiland that'd be a silver mid-2000's Mazda 6 sedan. My mate recently bought a Japanese import 'luxury' version with absolutely zero distinguishing features and there are thousands of the things on the road here. Compared to that my flatmate's late 90s dark red Toyota Camry estate is downright recognisable (hey double rear wipers are cool)
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Dec 30, 2014 20:53
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dissss posted:In kiwiland that'd be a silver mid-2000's Mazda 6 sedan. My boss has one of these and I swear to god a couple of times a random person off the street has driven in and he thought it was his wife.
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Dec 30, 2014 20:55
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dissss posted:In kiwiland that'd be a silver mid-2000's Mazda 6 sedan. I have it on good authority that a first gen (1999-2004) Toyota Sienna van in completely invisible. One time I passed a cop doing radar at 145km/h on the highway (150 is street racing here) and all he did was the slow down hand motion. Soccer mom vans FTW.
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Dec 30, 2014 23:19
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That's just van magic, no one cares about them except the British I think. Down here I was is a bright yellow KIA preggio van doing 70 in a 60. Drove right into a speed trap with a radar gun cop. I thought he was waving me down, he told me to bugger off as he wanted the guy in the sedan behind me. Still to this day I think what the gently caress, if he had a radar gun my huge van would have been the thing his gun was reading as it's not like it was a laser that's more accurate for individual vehicles, and the cop was pointing the radar down a busy road? I laughed and took of in a cloud of diesel fumes and smoke in that lovely KIA van.
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Dec 30, 2014 23:50
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Fo3 posted:That's just van magic, no one cares about them except the British I think. Was it downhill? I ask because I have to work on those things fairly often and they are, quite simply, the slowest modern vehicle I've driven. 'Modern' being a relative term considering the total lack of any kind of efi or computer controlled anything.
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Dec 31, 2014 02:00
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Computer viking posted:Over here in euroland, a friend of mine used to joke that he should start robbing banks in his late-90's dark red Toyota estate, since nobody would notice what he was driving. That thing was so nondescript it was almost impressive. Post a picture! I'm not googling on principal but it sounds bland as heck. Here's a pic of a late 90's Lumina. Small. 
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Dec 31, 2014 02:36
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I still don't understand the intent with that nameplate. Three different vehicles, same name. What the gently caress, Chevy? My mom had the renamed coupe, a 97 Monte Carlo with the glorious 3.1 piece of poo poo.
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Dec 31, 2014 03:40
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Are Saturn Ion's regarded as reliable?
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Dec 31, 2014 03:49
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STR needs to appear with a flash and a spontaneous cloud of smoke right now.
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Dec 31, 2014 04:58
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Breaking news   
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Dec 31, 2014 05:04
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gently caress 2014 strikes again! Hold onto your butts, people. Only one day left to get screwed!
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Dec 31, 2014 05:11
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I always thought those tractors with the insanely wide tyres were overkill. I was wrong. 
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Dec 31, 2014 05:16
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GRANDMAS CAR WAS IN THE DRIVEWAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE loving HOUSE
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Dec 31, 2014 05:21
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smoke the tree
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Dec 31, 2014 05:24
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Just so you guys get a sense of scale thats my old neighbor's five foot thick hundred foot tall pine tree. Also known as my new front yard.
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Dec 31, 2014 05:29
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free firewood, and it took an oldsmobile 88 off this earth. Seems like win/win to me.
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Dec 31, 2014 05:31
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Prepare to feel bad  When my grandad married my grandma and brought her over from England after the war, he promised he'd get her a brand new Oldsmobile. They had another Olds, but it was bought second hand but still relatively new just not *brand new.*. After Grandpa died she saved and sold off the other one and bought that one. Her brand new Oldsmobile she had waited so long to buy. She always had it serviced on the dot by the dealership, practically got to know everybody by name down there. And it only had like a hundred fifty thousand miles on it and drove like brand new because the second anything popped up she was back down at the dealership getting it adressed. I think she even paid for it to be repainted last year, in the orignal color to freshen it up.
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Dec 31, 2014 06:43
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It looks to me like the car may have escaped with at most some trim knocked off and scratches... hope I'm right? Either that or the main trunk is right under there and I just can't tell.
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Dec 31, 2014 06:58
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kastein posted:It looks to me like the car may have escaped with at most some trim knocked off and scratches... hope I'm right? Actually after the fun died down a little dad messaged me the same thing but it's hard to know for sure. Bigass tree though.
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Dec 31, 2014 07:02
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Mr-Spain posted:Post a picture! I'm not googling on principal but it sounds bland as heck. Here's a pic of a late 90's Lumina. Small. I still vaguely remember when the Z34 first came out, it had a deceptively cool look to it. This was GM's answer to Ford's SHO Taurus:  It's built on the the same "W" body platform as the Grand Prix/Cutlass/Regal. I don't see too many these days, I can only imagine why. The heart and namesake of the Z34 is the GM 3400 V6 that made 200 horsepower and loved to tear apart its engine mounts even when it wasn't leaking its vital fluids all over them:  Here's the timing belt setup. If you've never had to change one of these before, consider yourself fortunate:   
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Dec 31, 2014 07:26
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So not only is does salt hate your car and everything it stands for, it's now actively hunting down your car!   http://chicago.suntimes.com/business/7/71/247701/building-collapse-reported-morton-salt-north-side
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Dec 31, 2014 08:22
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ExplodingSims posted:So not only is does salt hate your car and everything it stands for, it's now actively hunting down your car! “We were just conversating,” said Venton, a porter for the Near North Side dealership at Elston and Potomac. “Everything just pretty much imploded.” ESL still has a long way to go.. better than I expected for Chicago, though. It had syllables!
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Dec 31, 2014 08:24
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Root Bear posted:I still vaguely remember when the Z34 first came out, it had a deceptively cool look to it. This was GM's answer to Ford's SHO Taurus: I actually like the aero on that car. Hood vents, blocked off upper grill, lower bumper inlet, and that little rear spoiler will do a pretty good job at reducing high speed lift.
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Dec 31, 2014 09:01
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Grandpa's ghost told that tree, "Not today."
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RandomPauI posted:Are Saturn Ion's regarded as reliable? lol ....oh wait you're serious? My sister in law had one, the short answer is kind of. The biggest problem it had was when it wouldn't turn off randomly. The dealership people treated her like she was crazy at the time and never fixed it. She moved to England for a year for job training and sold it, now she has a Subaru. The Saturn she had before that burned so much oil that she used to keep extra in the trunk to top it off. I had a 2003 Focus with the dreaded ignition lock cylinder failure, which left me stranded and beating the steering column with my shoe like a pissed off chimp. OK car but lots of cheap parts that failed early, master brake cylinder, tie rods, stupid emissions sensor. American cars are great for cheap thrills though... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLazEPfCCzI
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Dec 31, 2014 14:45
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Root Bear posted:Here's the timing belt setup. If you've never had to change one of these before, consider yourself fortunate: Really?! Timing belts were the biggest dick move car manufacturers have pulled in recent decades. They all did it too, it's like they had a meeting or something. "yeah sure we could just stick with chains, but rubber belts are so much cheaper and then that just becomes a maintenance item so....gently caress em' lets do it" Then there were hookers and blow.
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Dec 31, 2014 14:51
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Huggable Bear King posted:Really?! Timing belts were the biggest dick move car manufacturers have pulled in recent decades. They all did it too, it's like they had a meeting or something. "yeah sure we could just stick with chains, but rubber belts are so much cheaper and then that just becomes a maintenance item so....gently caress em' lets do it" Then there were hookers and blow. Chains aren't exactly perfect either. They stretch over time and their tensioners and pulleys can become just as worn as ones on belts leading to the same sort of catastrophic failure. If anything, the move to chains has been "We can strike a maintenance item off a car and make it more marketable! Who cares what happens after 100k miles!"
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Huggable Bear King posted:Really?! Timing belts were the biggest dick move car manufacturers have pulled in recent decades. They all did it too, it's like they had a meeting or something. "yeah sure we could just stick with chains, but rubber belts are so much cheaper and then that just becomes a maintenance item so....gently caress em' lets do it" Then there were hookers and blow. Here's the trick: Chains are a huge pain in the rear end to change, and often mean tearing down the engine FURTHER than you would for a timing belt. So, while replacing timing belts is annoying, at least designers went into the design assuming it would have to be replaced eventually and made arrangements for such. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Dec 31, 2014 |
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Never heard of anyone ever having to work on the timing chain on a falcon 4L, lasts forever almost. OTOH, GMs 3.6L v6 down here had a chain, and they stretch all the time. Same set up as the above pic with the 3.4L, but a chain. From what I know the new engines were OK in 2004 with a 9mm wide chain, but then they switched to a 7mm chain 2005/2006 (for noise reasons), which stretched. I never had problems with old I4 mazdas that used a chain either. Chains and tensioners can last as long as the rings/bearing/valve stem seals/chassis does Fo3 fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Dec 31, 2014 |
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Dec 31, 2014 15:12
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My Saturn's been reliable up until recently when it started guzzling gas. But then it also guzzles gas with the fan or AC or heater on.
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Fo3 posted:Never heard of anyone ever having to work on the timing chain on a falcon 4L. Its hit or miss. Some companies chose to do the proper thing and put an over-designed chain in assuming it would never see the light of day again, and some let the Accounting office decide.
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From what I know the 3.6L GM V6 engines were OK in early 05 with a 9mm wide chain, but then they switched to a 7mm chain late 05 and 06/07 builds, (for noise reasons they said), which stretched. Good chains and tensioners can last as long as the rings/bearing/valve stem seals/chassis does Fo3 fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Dec 31, 2014 |
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Dec 31, 2014 15:18
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Hire car with a chip in the windscreen (luckily mentioned in the condition report) turned into a 3-foot crack in freezing weather:
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Dec 31, 2014 15:26
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Fo3 posted:Never heard of anyone ever having to work on the timing chain on a falcon 4L, lasts forever almost. I worked for a Ford dealership in Australia for a year, I never saw one of their inline 6 4l motors come in for anything timing chain related. Ford transit vans (pre 2000) I think had some issue with the tensioner from memory, I vaguely recall doing something warranty related on quite a few of their tensioners....it might have even been worn tensioner guides? Timing Belts aren't too bad, if your handy, have the right tools (sometimes it's tight getting all the plastic covers off the front of the motor - 1/4 drive socket set helps) and have a procedure or the 'know how' on that particular models quirks in regards to timing marks etc it's not really an issue.
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Neif posted:Ford transit vans (pre 2000) I think had some issue with the tensioner from memory, I vaguely recall doing something warranty related on quite a few of their tensioners....it might have even been worn tensioner guides? Ford switched to plastic guides for a few years that weren't up to par, a lot of the 4.6 V8's had problems too. bull3964 posted:Chains aren't exactly perfect either. They stretch over time and their tensioners and pulleys can become just as worn as ones on belts leading to the same sort of catastrophic failure. Chains get noisy when they're about to go and other than manufacturing defects they typically last the life of the vehicle. They are a PITA to replace though.
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Chain vs. Belt very much depends on how you do it, especially today. The belt on a >~2006 Citroen C5 V6 has an expected life span of 250.000 km. The chain on my 1996 Citroen XM V6 will outlive the engine, which is expected to make it past 300.000 at the very least. On the other hand, if you own the correct engine variant VW Golf, then you do timing chain changes after 80.000 km.
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