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achillesforever6 posted:After completing the Tenpenny Tower quest I learned to truly hate Three Dog because of that bullshit quest not ending with things working out after all the hard work I put into brokering peace between the ghouls and rich folk. Is there anything ropekid isn't amazing at.
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Gyshall posted:Jsawyer makes New Vegas perfect Almost perfect. To make it perfect you need the grenade hotkey, too.
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ThaumPenguin posted:So someone made a song about the Wazer Wifle from Fallout 3: drat this is catchy. And I don't even like this style of music. Uncensored version on the channel of the actual musician. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idjM3Jrp4Yw e: To clarify, Thaum's link to one of the collaborators, not like a song thief or anything like that.
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rope kid posted:The folk/western ones were more difficult because they weren't quite in my range and the guitarists had to learn the music on the spot. I was really surprised when Bethesda used Home on the Wastes in the Ultimate Edition trailer. I had no idea they were even aware of it.
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Jan 7, 2015 20:16
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Seashell Salesman posted:Almost perfect. To make it perfect you need the grenade hotkey, too. I agree with this, but I also can't live without bullet time. I love it so much.
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Jan 7, 2015 20:40
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I agree with this, but I also can't live without bullet time. I love it so much. Logan's Loophole, Chemist, Daytripper and Fast times all together make a single dose of Turbo last a full minute, and if you do the first part of the Aba Daba Honeymoon quest, you can make Turbo out of relatively common poo poo (Cazadore glands, Turpentine Broc Flowers and Jet, all over a campfire,) so it's easy to stay stocked up. If you don't take Logan's Loophole, you can get the second tier of Implant GRX, which gives you a free 10 shots of no-addiction Turbo that replenish every day, but they'll only last 34 seconds each.
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Jan 7, 2015 20:58
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I use bullet time as a replacement for VATS. I find that I get better results with it.
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I like to not use VATS or bullet time. I do use AP for sprinting with the sprint key mod, though.
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Jan 7, 2015 21:45
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Sleeveless posted:The jsawyer mod does a pretty good job fixing the ridiculous amounts of good karma that get thrown at you. Yeah, I did the usual "loot Goodsprings and Primm blind" until I checked my karma and noticed that I was insanely evil. It took me about until the half-way point in the game to work myself up to neutral karma, and there weren't any quick fixes like killing a couple of ghouls for positive karma since their karma value was adjusted as well. The bigger karma loss doesn't necessarily curtail stealing but it does make you think that jacking that single shotgun from a poor villager on the frontier is probably taking away his only means of defense and perhaps condemning him to death.
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Seashell Salesman posted:I like to not use VATS or bullet time. I do use AP for sprinting with the sprint key mod, though. I'm debating making a character that only uses VATS. 100%, no pulling the trigger outside of VATS, just so I can make use of all those VATS and AP perks that I have never taken on any other playthrough.
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I have New Vegas Valley on my ipod, I listen to it when I want to feel wistful. More games should have the developers singing. The next Metal Gear Solid game should have a crazy power ballad sung by Kojima or something.
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Garrand posted:I'm debating making a character that only uses VATS. 100%, no pulling the trigger outside of VATS, just so I can make use of all those VATS and AP perks that I have never taken on any other playthrough. I've never done only VATS but its certainly viable, and I've made builds that use it heavily. I like taking Fast Shot (its a huge bonus and you can mitigate accuracy loss with Gunslinger/Commando/Sniper perks or Steady chems when you need something really dead at range) Concentrated Fire, Math Wrath and Grunt for VATS heavy builds, as the All American and the Light Machine Gun will wreck everything. The All American can fire just an absurd number of shots and you'll never want to use anything else, and I recently discovered the LMG in VATS is far more accurate than its percent to hit would suggest-- with 5.56mm Match Rounds at the longest range you can target in VATS and with a listed 1% chance to hit I regularly take out a cazador in one targeting, its pretty great. Bear in mind not all VATS-related perks are as useful as you would think. Nerves of Steel is less effective than listed if you pick up Action Boy/Girl, as the regeneration rate is set at your base AP and those perks don't count towards it. Grim Reaper's Sprint doesn't make that big of a difference I've found, though I suppose it would let you get an extra shot or two from the All American if you really needed it. Ain't Like That Now seems perfect (though very late game) for VATS builds, though supposedly doesn't provide the 20% reduction in VATS cost its supposed to, only increased fire rate and AP regen, and the increased fire speed is kind of negligible in that case (though Rushing Water is still fun for non-automatic weapons and can sometimes break VATS animations). I never use plasma weapons but I imagine Plasma Spaz would make for a fun build, and the travel time of plasma shots would be less annoying without having to lead in real time. The only real problem with relying on only VATS are instances where game geometry fucks your shots and you waste your AP hitting like rocks or whatever, or the rare occasion where you're stuck standing in place not shooting anything.
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Seashell Salesman posted:I like to not use VATS or bullet time. I do use AP for sprinting with the sprint key mod, though. One of the major reasons I like Fallout is because I was past the age where you can learn how to insta-target with a mouse or aim a gun with an analog stick when games started coming out enmasse where that was a thing. So VATS lets me play a shooting game because I'm not very good at shooting games. Keeshhound posted:Logan's Loophole, Chemist, Daytripper and Fast times all together make a single dose of Turbo last a full minute, and if you do the first part of the Aba Daba Honeymoon quest, you can make Turbo out of relatively common poo poo (Cazadore glands, Turpentine Broc Flowers and Jet, all over a campfire,) so it's easy to stay stocked up. If you could hotkey GRX I'd never pass it up but I can't handle going into a menu in the middle of a fight every time to activate it so I never get it. And yeah VATS is kind of a menu that go into in a lot of fights but that's somewhat different. The only shout I ever bother developing in Skyrim is that slow time one. Any time I play VtMB I only get about halfway into a stage unless I have a character who can use celerity. raton fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Sheep-Goats posted:One of the major reasons I like Fallout is because I was past the age where you can learn how to insta-target with a mouse or aim a gun with an analog stick when games started coming out enmasse where that was a thing. So VATS lets me play a shooting game because I'm not very good at shooting games. I played Fallout 2 when it came out and I think I was coming of age (12?) when Unreal came out, so I love turn-based games for what they are but playing a FPS with Z-axis aiming, in real-time feels natural. I don't like breaking up the tension with something like VATS, and I don't like the disruption to my flow.
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Seashell Salesman posted:I played Fallout 2 when it came out and I think I was coming of age (12?) when Unreal came out, so I love turn-based games for what they are but playing a FPS with Z-axis aiming, in real-time feels natural. I don't like breaking up the tension with something like VATS, and I don't like the disruption to my flow. Well it don't work that way for us olds. If I have to actively aim with an analog stick I just don't play the game because I can't handle it. I've never played a Grand Theft Auto on a console for example (even though I understand they have some auto-aim thing as an option) specifically to avoid having to wrangle the R stick. I've played some casual shooters like Serious Sam and if the game has an RPG element or gives me a lot of chances to make stealth shots (System Shock 2, Deus Ex) then I can get through it but anything that requires quick mouse skill while I'm running around and jumping like Quake or whatever and I can pretty much forget it. The first time I played Fallout 3 I thought that VATS had been invented specifically to make gun games palatable on consoles and thought that was a really smart financial thing for Bethesda to do because who the gently caress plays shooting games on consoles. Then I saw some fat ten year old little poo poo with a greasy face in Walmart looking straight up at the demo TV and just zipping the recticle from guy to guy and shooting each one exactly the number of times he needed to to kill it all while he was running around and bunny hopping and I realized that I really like Neil Young's music and Bob Dylan and just went and looked at CDs that I already had at home on my computer, some of which I had downloaded from Napster. raton fucked around with this message at 09:53 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Garrand posted:drat this is catchy. And I don't even like this style of music. Haha, this rules almost as much as tunnel snakes
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Sheep-Goats posted:Does he say "blitz through this addon because you find it vaguely dull and hate all the loot?" the addon gives you a Thompson submachine gun, a Colt 1911, a .50 AE service rifle, and a gauntlet made from the claws of a mutated bear if there's nothing there that's fun to you, you just aren't trying
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I could watch Joshua Graham clean guns for hours. Oddly that's my favorite part about Honest Hearts. It was just a really cool animation.
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TacticalUrbanHomo posted:the addon gives you a Thompson submachine gun, a Colt 1911, a .50 AE service rifle, and a gauntlet made from the claws of a mutated bear When does it have the Tommy gun, I don't recall those?
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Byzantine posted:When does it have the Tommy gun, I don't recall those? The .45 submachine gun looks like a Tommy gun if I remember correctly. Not with the classic drum barrel but it's still good fun. It isn't half bad, either.
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Theta Zero posted:The .45 submachine gun looks like a Tommy gun if I remember correctly. Not with the classic drum barrel but it's still good fun. It isn't half bad, either. The .45 smg is a Thompson, insofar as any gun in the game is a real-life gun (they're all stylised a little bit, I think, but really subtlely). If you want the giant drum magazine you can buy it from any shop that sells weapon mods.
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And that's why you do Honest Hearts before dealing with the Vegas casinos.
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TacticalUrbanHomo posted:The .45 smg is a Thompson, insofar as any gun in the game is a real-life gun (they're all stylised a little bit, I think, but really subtlely). If you want the giant drum magazine you can buy it from any shop that sells weapon mods. Oh they are? What's the .22 silence machine gun and 12.7mm submachine gun based off of? They look so unusual.
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Theta Zero posted:Oh they are? What's the .22 silence machine gun and 12.7mm submachine gun based off of? They look so unusual. I don't think the 12.7mm SMG is based on anything in particular, but the silenced .22 SMG is based on the American-180.
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Theta Zero posted:Oh they are? What's the .22 silence machine gun and 12.7mm submachine gun based off of? They look so unusual. I don't think the 12.7 mm smg is based off anything. I said the .45 smg is about as true to the real life Thompson as any of the guns are to their real life counterparts; this does not imply that every gun has a real life counterpart.
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The 12.7mm weapons are 100% original designs, though they take minor inspiration from real guns to not look totally outlandish by sci-fi standards (like the SMG uses a horizontal magazine on top of the gun like the real life P90). You can look at the game's IMFDB page for identification of all the real world weapons.
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Fallout 3 would've been a lot better if Bethesda had been more creative with the whole thing, the whole setting panders way too much to old-school Fallout fans. "Hey, remember how the old Fallout games had the Brotherhood of Steel, supermutants and the Enclave? We have that too! Even Harold makes an experience as a tree, this truly is a Fallout game!" In the meantime you're teased about all sorts of cool places that exist just outside the game area but you never actually go there. You DO visit the Pitt in one of the DLC's and I thought that was area was alright but what about areas like the Commonwealth? Why set the game on the east coast of the US if you're just going to rehash old stuff?
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I, too, think Bethesda would make better games if they were more creative and if I had wheels I'd be a wagon I don't see how you can think Fallout 3 was "pandering" at all, though, like at all. none of the plot made sense in the context of Fallout and Fallout 2, the whole east coast setting didn't make sense, nothing made sense. the BOS didn't act like the BOS, the Enclave still existing, let alone being as active as they were and being on the east coast of all things didn't make sense either. yes, they made plot points out of those discrepancies, and you can argue whether or not that was good writing or storytelling (I'm leaning towards "not" but honestly I can't remember enough of it to argue that one way or the other) but what it certainly ain't is pandering. I do agree that I wish they had just started fresh instead of trying to include all that poo poo from the Fallout universe. I do distinctly remember before the game's release I was hoping that the east coast setting meant that they weren't going to touch Fallout canon, because after what they just did to TES (My other favourite game series) I didn't want that to happen. But, well, Bethesda is lazy, so  .(  )
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It was pandering in the way that it's like they had a checklist of Fallout things to shoehorn into the game. e: ok shoehorn sounds kinda harsh but I hope you get the picture Ahundredbux fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I could watch Joshua Graham clean guns for hours. Oddly that's my favorite part about Honest Hearts. It was just a really cool animation. I never thought I'd have a crush on a Mormon burn victim, but here we are.  He's just so dreamy.
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Ahundredbux posted:It was pandering in the way that it's like they had a checklist of Fallout things to shoehorn into the game. I felt having the BOS and Enclave in the game were justified. Fallout Tactics already introduced nationwide chapters of the BOS. Why would east coast chapters be out of the question? The Enclave was made up of former government officials, why would Washington DC be exempt from Enclave influence? The only things that really felt out of place were some of the creatures and weapons. Deathclaws, centaurs, molerats, brahmin. I would think some of these creatures were quite regional and you wouldn't find them in such far away places. Many weapons in fallout 2 that seemed like makeshift modifications, or experimental tech found in west coast military bases, were found pretty commonly in the DC wasteland.
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Caps were dumb in 3. Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics all used different currencies, so what do they do for 3? Mindlessly ape the first game for cheap nostalgia, of course.
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Keeshhound posted:Caps were dumb in 3. Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics all used different currencies, so what do they do for 3? Mindlessly ape the first game for cheap nostalgia, of course. What would be the currency in 3 if not caps?
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Theta Zero posted:What would be the currency in 3 if not caps? Technically clean water should probably be the sought after "currency" in a fallout type scenario. What value does gold, US currency, or bottlecaps hold over something everyone needs daily and is hard to come by?
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They played with that in New Vegas. The NCR lost its gold reserves to the Brotherhood, so all their money is backed by water. It's why it's so valued so low in-game. But to have water, no marker or token, as a currency? That would be an unwieldy currency system, even in a post-apocalypse setting.
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Caps were water-backed in the first game, by the Hub water merchants. Same with New Vegas, after the NCR dollar became weak. Caps aren't backed by anything in Fallout 3 because the whole plot of the game revolves around making clean water happen.
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lunatikfringe posted:Technically clean water should probably be the sought after "currency" in a fallout type scenario. What value does gold, US currency, or bottlecaps hold over something everyone needs daily and is hard to come by? The fundamental features of a good currency is something that is rare, easily transported and is intrinsically useless. That's why gold was used for a currency for a long time: rare, useless as a tool due to its softness, and can be melted in sizes that are easily transported. Water would be rare, but too useful to survive and to feed cattle/plants with, and difficult to transport in large quantities.
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Malpais Legate posted:They played with that in New Vegas. The NCR lost its gold reserves to the Brotherhood, so all their money is backed by water. It's why it's so valued so low in-game. Not to mention easily able to counterfeit. Just piss in a bottle! Sometimes Fallout fans pick apart the games/lore way too much. To me, the bottle caps were always a way of saying "hey, here is how bad it got after Nuclear War, we use previously useless Bottle caps as a currency!"
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Malpais Legate posted:I never thought I'd have a crush on a Mormon burn victim, but here we are. He's the only not corny badboy in the game.
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Why do people LOVE Joshua Graham, yet loathe Ulysses is it just the snakeskin boots it is, isn't it
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