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Popular Human
Jul 17, 2005

and if it's a lie, terrorists made me say it

JacquelineDempsey posted:

Your point stands, because these are even further away, but there is definitely more than one Sonic in VA (2 here on the Peninsula, that I know of).

I'm wondering: Is there possibly a connection between advertising outside the immediate area, but where a location is close to a vacation destination? Like the thinking is, "hey, as long as you're at Williamsburg/Busch Gardens, why not try that Sonic you've heard so much about?" My sister gets Sonic ads even though the closest one to her is 2 hours away, so when she visited me and saw there was one in my neighborhood, she was stoked as hell to try it. Just out of curiosity, is the one you're talking about near King's Dominion?

And all this GEICO chat... where's the Flo love at? (I like Flo; GEICO's squealing pig can get turned into "Virginia ham".)

Yeah, not to turn this into VA chat, but I live in Chesterfield and there's like three Sonics within fifteen minutes of me. They might be new or something, though - I just moved here a few months ago.

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Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!


Always fun when a company has to drop a mascot because 90% of the search results are pornographic fanart. She wasn't quite making the numbers they wanted anyway, but the porn was a contributing factor in the decision. Like, people on the internet will creepily sexualize any mascot, but it's usually only a few weirdos. It becomes a problem for the company when the first official image is halfway down the first page of Google results.

AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

They taste the same.

And they're both bad.

Around 1991 or 92 Pepsi set up a booth at the minor league baseball stadium my dad worked at, where they had a taste test contest. If you could correctly tell Pepsi from Coke you got a card that let you spin a prize wheel, and even 7 or 8 year old me could do it. They taste nothing alike.

Haruharuharuko
Mar 24, 2008

Yeah I lied; so what is the truth?

Delivery McGee posted:



Always fun when a company has to drop a mascot because 90% of the search results are pornographic fanart. She wasn't quite making the numbers they wanted anyway, but the porn was a contributing factor in the decision. Like, people on the internet will creepily sexualize any mascot, but it's usually only a few weirdos. It becomes a problem for the company when the first official image is halfway down the first page of Google results.

To be fair to the internet weirdos (Ugh) it basically looks like a flash animation to begin with so all the porn was probably inevitable.

walrusman
Aug 4, 2006

AlmightyBob posted:

Around 1991 or 92 Pepsi set up a booth at the minor league baseball stadium my dad worked at, where they had a taste test contest. If you could correctly tell Pepsi from Coke you got a card that let you spin a prize wheel, and even 7 or 8 year old me could do it. They taste nothing alike.

That's called the Pepsi Challenge, and it's been Pepsi's dominant marketing thrust since the Nixon administration.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Haruharuharuko posted:

To be fair to the internet weirdos (Ugh) it basically looks like a flash animation to begin with so all the porn was probably inevitable.

Not to mention that picture has one hell of "anatomically impossible sexy female pose". Like what's up with that leg.

content:
I don't like that Christian Mingle commercial. You said God is let me choose HIS match for me? Do I have free will or not? Narrator are you still married? Why do your marriage pictures look like stock photos?

Neurion
Jun 3, 2013

The musical fruit
The more you eat
The more you hoot

PhazonLink posted:

Not to mention that picture has one hell of "anatomically impossible sexy female pose". Like what's up with that leg.

content:
I don't like that Christian Mingle commercial. You said God is let me choose HIS match for me? Do I have free will or not? Narrator are you still married? Why do your marriage pictures look like stock photos?

I don't like that eHarmony ad of what looks like the start of a sexual fling at a party as a dude and lady go to another room to gently caress. Then the rest of the party finds them and SURPRISE it turns out they're married and its their anniversary party or something.

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica

Meltathon posted:

I'm surprised BR has caught on so well

It really hasn't. It "won" the HD format war against HD-DVD but DVDs still outsell it and streaming wound up being the actual next step. BluRay is the Laserdisc to streaming's VHS: technically superior but inconvenient and expensive.

It's funny that back in the day so many people repeated that anecdote about BluRay beating out HD-DVD because of porn because even back then the porn industry was focused on streaming and physical media was dying out. So in a way the porn industry really was a trendsetter, just not in the way people thought.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

He usually is, unless it's about Kennedy.

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

walrusman posted:

That's called the Pepsi Challenge, and it's been Pepsi's dominant marketing thrust since the Nixon administration.
I don't think it's supposed to be to distinguish between pepsi and coke, though, since such a distinction isn't difficult. It's to get people to say that they prefer cup B, which turns out to be pepsi.

Stottie Kyek
Apr 26, 2008

fuckin egg in a bun

PhazonLink posted:

I don't like that Christian Mingle commercial. You said God is let me choose HIS match for me? Do I have free will or not? Narrator are you still married? Why do your marriage pictures look like stock photos?

The ads for Elite Singles always come across like a creepy eugenics group. I like the eHarmony ones with the camel though. :3: ("These two are the same age and both enjoy long walks on the beach. For some dating sites that's enough to make them a match" etc. )

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Strudel Man posted:

I don't think it's supposed to be to distinguish between pepsi and coke, though, since such a distinction isn't difficult. It's to get people to say that they prefer cup B, which turns out to be pepsi.

It was the same logic as Prego and Ragu which did the same advertising campaign. Interestingly in that case Prego always outperformed Ragu but Ragu always sold better. Ragus internal team spent tons to figure out why and the answer they came to was that in a one off test with no paired food people preferred the sweeter taste of Prego. Once they cooked with it for a full meal the sweeter taste didn't pair as well leading people to be more open to trying a new pasta.

It should also be noted that Pepsi isn't (or at least last I checked isn't) second to Coke its third. It goes coke, diet coke, Pepsi.

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

A fancy little mouse🐁!

Barudak posted:

It was the same logic as Prego and Ragu which did the same advertising campaign. Interestingly in that case Prego always outperformed Ragu but Ragu always sold better. Ragus internal team spent tons to figure out why and the answer they came to was that in a one off test with no paired food people preferred the sweeter taste of Prego. Once they cooked with it for a full meal the sweeter taste didn't pair as well leading people to be more open to trying a new pasta.

It should also be noted that Pepsi isn't (or at least last I checked isn't) second to Coke its third. It goes coke, diet coke, Pepsi.

Pepsi is second to Coca-Cola don't be that guy.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008
What he meant to say is it's third, because RC Cola is the best but people are just stupid and refuse to recognize it. :colbert:

Haruharuharuko
Mar 24, 2008

Yeah I lied; so what is the truth?

So for some reason Nestle has decided to market their "new" butterfinger cups (Resees Peanut butter cup knock offs) with the ad slogan

"Are you Try-curious?"

I don't see this lasting long.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

That, and while I like (or used to) Butterfingers, but those cups are really not good.

I think I had a Butterfinger Easter egg or something last year that was just their butterfinger wafer crushed up and mixed throughout the chocolate instead of being a solid chunk. That was much better. They should make their cups out of that.

Anora
Feb 16, 2014

I fuckin suck!🪠

Barudak posted:

It should also be noted that Pepsi isn't (or at least last I checked isn't) second to Coke its third. It goes coke, diet coke, Pepsi.

I had heard Dr. Pepper was first, but am unaware where to look up.

I have also heard that Coke and Pepsi are require to be the distributor of Dr. Pepper for anti-monopoly concerns.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

Anora posted:

I had heard Dr. Pepper was first, but am unaware where to look up.

I have also heard that Coke and Pepsi are require to be the distributor of Dr. Pepper for anti-monopoly concerns.

Nope and nope. Dr. Pepper (and its family) are sometimes bottled and distributed by Pepsi, but only because it's cheaper to have them do it in some areas/situations.

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

Nope and nope. Dr. Pepper (and its family) are sometimes bottled and distributed by Pepsi, but only because it's cheaper to have them do it in some areas/situations.

Didn't Pepsi straight up buy Dr. Pepper several years ago?

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Hey look what I found!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enq5Xt_yTFE

Also another reason to hate them

http://www.patreon.com/Pomplamoose

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!

I don't know who these people are, and they certainly don't care to tell me, but I know I hate them.

Radio Paranoia
Jun 27, 2010

It is now safe to turn off your computer.

Haruharuharuko posted:

So for some reason Nestle has decided to market their "new" butterfinger cups (Resees Peanut butter cup knock offs) with the ad slogan

"Are you Try-curious?"

I don't see this lasting long.

A local "gentleman's club" recently put up a billboard with two girls dancing on the same pole with the strapline "BIPOLAR!"
But then again, their advertising has never been as classy as they like to portray themselves.

Case in point - this popped up around the time of the whole Caster Semenya gender confusion: http://i.imgur.com/Qrk1OVZ.jpg :nws:

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!

Johnny Aztec posted:

Didn't Pepsi straight up buy Dr. Pepper several years ago?

No, they're owned by Snapple. They contract local Pepsi or Coke bottlers for distribution in places it's not worth having a factory of their own.

Edit: Pepsi-bottled on the left (it's the same bottle they use for Pepsi), indie on the right.



Coke's packaging:



Edit again: It's really disappointing being in a place where Dr Pepper doesn't have its own presence, and going to a restaurant that only carries the major brand that doesn't handle Dr Pepper there. No, I don't want fuckin' Pibb.

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ANIME MONSTROSITY
Jun 1, 2012

by XyloJW


also have a Schweppes packaging
Their picking up of Dr Pepper, combined with aggressive marketing picked them up in Poland when they were known as the bitter tonic company

bigtom
May 7, 2007

Playing the solid gold hits and moving my liquid lips...
Working in radio, these are the worst when it comes to ads (many are written by salespeople people who stopped being creative right around the time New Coke came out, or they kluged it together by cribbing from the clients website. Or flyer):

-Need to make it a :60 or :30, but running short? Just repeat the phone number over and over again!

-When reading a URL, saying "double you double you double you dot whatever dot com." It's not 1995....you don't need that crap

-"Family owned and operated," "centrally located,' and other dumb cliches. If that's the best you can think of about your business, just stop.

-Having the client in the ad. Usually they can't read for poo poo, sound stiff with marbles in their mouth, and generally do it to feed their ego. Unless you're Frank Perdue or Lee Iacocca, don't do it. But salespeople will pitch that to the prospective client to close the deal, 'cause getting that commission now is WAY more important than trying to create a campaign that will actually work.

If you hear an ad that sucks, blame the salesperson or the client, as the people producing them and putting them on the air would rather not air awful commercials. But hey, the paycheck clears, so we go along with the plan....

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

bigtom posted:

Working in radio, these are the worst when it comes to ads (many are written by salespeople people who stopped being creative right around the time New Coke came out, or they kluged it together by cribbing from the clients website. Or flyer):

-Need to make it a :60 or :30, but running short? Just repeat the phone number over and over again!


Ugh, reminds me why I never listen to radio anymore.

Can't stand those commercials where they repeat the phone number 6 times at the end

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


Speaking of dating websites I have never in my life heard of this place but I saw this commercial today (apparently this is an 8 year old commercial too)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RvyFFjP7RE

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

A fancy little mouse🐁!

Basticle posted:

Speaking of dating websites I have never in my life heard of this place but I saw this commercial today (apparently this is an 8 year old commercial too)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RvyFFjP7RE

My favorite part is that the man and woman in American Gothic are supposed to be father and daughter, not husband and wife.

Neurion
Jun 3, 2013

The musical fruit
The more you eat
The more you hoot

Basticle posted:

Speaking of dating websites I have never in my life heard of this place but I saw this commercial today (apparently this is an 8 year old commercial too)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RvyFFjP7RE
I just don't get it :confused:

Kaiju15
Jul 25, 2013

Basticle posted:

Speaking of dating websites I have never in my life heard of this place but I saw this commercial today (apparently this is an 8 year old commercial too)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RvyFFjP7RE

This is actually one of my favorite commercials ever. That might not be for the intended reasons though.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

bigtom posted:

Working in radio, these are the worst when it comes to ads (many are written by salespeople people who stopped being creative right around the time New Coke came out, or they kluged it together by cribbing from the clients website. Or flyer):

-Need to make it a :60 or :30, but running short? Just repeat the phone number over and over again!

-When reading a URL, saying "double you double you double you dot whatever dot com." It's not 1995....you don't need that crap

-"Family owned and operated," "centrally located,' and other dumb cliches. If that's the best you can think of about your business, just stop.

-Having the client in the ad. Usually they can't read for poo poo, sound stiff with marbles in their mouth, and generally do it to feed their ego. Unless you're Frank Perdue or Lee Iacocca, don't do it. But salespeople will pitch that to the prospective client to close the deal, 'cause getting that commission now is WAY more important than trying to create a campaign that will actually work.

If you hear an ad that sucks, blame the salesperson or the client, as the people producing them and putting them on the air would rather not air awful commercials. But hey, the paycheck clears, so we go along with the plan....

'sup radio goon :cool::respek::cool:

I hate when the client insists upon being in the ad. We've got a whole building full of people who are trained in making radio ads and have been doing it for decades, but no, you go ahead and come do a single cold read of your lovely script and tell us it's "good enough" without hearing it played back.

"aitch tee tee pee colon forward slash forward slash double you double you double you dot bob's family bee bee queue dot net forward slash index dot aitch tee em ell" :argh:

bigtom
May 7, 2007

Playing the solid gold hits and moving my liquid lips...

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

'sup radio goon :cool::respek::cool:

I hate when the client insists upon being in the ad. We've got a whole building full of people who are trained in making radio ads and have been doing it for decades, but no, you go ahead and come do a single cold read of your lovely script and tell us it's "good enough" without hearing it played back.

"aitch tee tee pee colon forward slash forward slash double you double you double you dot bob's family bee bee queue dot net forward slash index dot aitch tee em ell" :argh:

OOH! Another pet peeve of mine...recording said client over the phone for the commercial. Cell phone too, as calling from their desk would be too inconvenient as they are important and always on the go.

Because, y'know, that sounds so good compared to the studio quality recordings surrounding it.

I love radio, but dear lord do we shoot ourselves in the foot to get a quick buck.

Or when I ask the client for updates copy, they just send over a copy of their TV ad and say to just run that.

'Cause a commercial full of "LOOK AT THIS THING HERE" works great on radio!

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
Don't forget the conversational ads DJs do. Hell even the non music content is crap since their just big music and entertainment shills.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
I really enjoy NPR for its content but I have to say, not having to listen to these offensive radio ads is a huge bonus too. I mean yeah products and services I get. Heating and Cooling, ok cool. The latest restaurant is running a special, greate!

COME ON DOWN DOWN DOWN TO BOBS FORD FOR THE LATEST DEALS ON THE A-A-A-A-AWESOME VEHICLES WE HAVE FOR YOU! NO CREDIT NO PROBLEM COME ON DOOOOOOWWWWWNN.

All said in an Arnold Schwarzenegger voice or some poo poo. Whyyyy.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




Regarding all the Boeingchat on the last page, would similar reasons apply to the Union Pacific ads I've seen on TV over the past couple of months?

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

I went and saw the 3rd Hobbit film a week ago and there were over half an hour of ads and trailers before the film started.

From a page back but I remember seeing Terminator 3 when it opened on the 2nd of July. Even back then there was 30-35 minutes of previews before it.

Eggbeater Jesus
Sep 21, 2008

Add a dab of lavender to milk. Leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it.

Jastiger posted:

I really enjoy NPR for its content but I have to say, not having to listen to these offensive radio ads is a huge bonus too.

A buddy of mine and I had a bourbon-fueled conversation a few years ago over how long it should have been before the Herman Miller Aeron Chair should have been "now available in true black" vs. "still available in true black." Good times.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Eggbeater Jesus posted:

A buddy of mine and I had a bourbon-fueled conversation a few years ago over how long it should have been before the Herman Miller Aeron Chair should have been "now available in true black" vs. "still available in true black." Good times.

Thats the thing though. I get they need sponsors. But they respect the audience (and remain neutral) by just explaining what it is, where to get it, and yeah they gave us some money. No gimmicks. No loud music. No insults to my intelligence or an appeal to the lowest common denominator. If every ad was like that, i'd be a much happier person.

Eggbeater Jesus
Sep 21, 2008

Add a dab of lavender to milk. Leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it.
Oh, I agree, I hate the kind of advertising that shouts numbers at you and processes everything through a bajillion effects to grab your attention. NPR tailors the format of its underwriters' ads to their market, and that's a smart thing.

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Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica
Mail...kimp?

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