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WirelessPillow posted:What is this "Cover" you speak of? Anything it can't shoot through.
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You can maneuver around and still use the laser gat. If you need to move, drop that bitch and pick it back up later. Mobility is BJ's greatest asset against ze Natzees. Noting the recharge stations nearby is also handy. You can pew pew the Ubersoldaten pretty well if you aim high and knock their helmets off and score a few headshots, which should leave you some of the battery to shoot at other things.
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Jan 9, 2015 13:57
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I for one always had plenty of grenades when I was playing through. Don't really see what there was to complain about.
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Jan 9, 2015 14:56
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Atomikus posted:I for one always had plenty of grenades when I was playing through. Don't really see what there was to complain about. My problem is that I never solve problems with just one grenade only. That's one thing I liked about CoD SP: you can usually make it rain.
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I straight up did not know you could recharg the laser gats with the power stations ujtil people mentioned it here. I also found out Q can be used to fast swap to the last weapon used while doing these videos. As for running around during fights instead of using cover: me sticking in one spot and picking off Nazis is generally the way I want to play the game, but I don't know how much people would want to watch me turn the game into Emplaced Gun Simulator 2014 so I'm going to be running around a bit to show off how you can use the arenas to your advantage when possible instead.
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Jan 9, 2015 19:09
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The dropping acid with Jimi part is actually really sad in a way that didn't occur to me until the millionth time I saw it. This world will never have a 60's. I mean, it will never have a liberation. Yes, the hippies all grew up to become yuppies and yes, John Lennon was shot by a madman and ultimately it was all for nothing. But the core ideas of the 60's were wonderful. In the TNO timeline they are gone forever. Even if BJ kills every Nazi and Nazi sympathiser and Nazi bureaucrat and Nazi who is only a Nazi because that is all he knows, the world is now just concrete and steel. Might may make right but really might is all that is left. They never had a Woodstock, and never, ever will. This post relates to the other timeline and is a huge spoiler, sorry! atal fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Jan 10, 2015 |
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Neruz posted:Anything it can't shoot through. But that means I can't shoot through it either, much better to go fast 
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Jan 9, 2015 19:56
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What did that second mine blast open?
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Lazyfire posted:As for running around during fights instead of using cover: me sticking in one spot and picking off Nazis is generally the way I want to play the game, but I don't know how much people would want to watch me turn the game into Emplaced Gun Simulator 2014 so I'm going to be running around a bit to show off how you can use the arenas to your advantage when possible instead. I haven't played the game so I'm just assuming that you're supposed to run back and forth when you're fighting the super soldiers at least. If you're just shooting regular Assault Rifle nazis I expect that regular in cover combat works just fine.
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Jan 9, 2015 22:21
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We'll see our share of cover shooting, no worries in that regard. The game pretty much forces it on you in the later levels. edit: And there's one thing that's completely invaluable for that. And the game doesn't give you enough of it.
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Jan 9, 2015 22:33
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anilEhilated posted:We'll see our share of cover shooting, no worries in that regard. The game pretty much forces it on you in the later levels. Would you enjoy a game where you had nothing but grenades and grenade launchers and rocket launchers and the entire game was about repainting everywhere you go with the innards of nazis? Because that would be awesome.
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Jan 9, 2015 22:45
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Night10194 posted:Would you enjoy a game where you had nothing but grenades and grenade launchers and rocket launchers and the entire game was about repainting everywhere you go with the innards of nazis? To be fair I do tend to use explosives instead of traditional guns whenever given the choice. Totally not because I'm terrible at aiming despite playing shooters since I was six.
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Jan 9, 2015 22:48
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Night10194 posted:Would you enjoy a game where you had nothing but grenades and grenade launchers and rocket launchers Well yeah that already exists it's called Saints R- Night10194 posted:and the entire game was about repainting everywhere you go with the innards of nazis? Oh. Nevermind
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Jan 9, 2015 22:49
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Night10194 posted:Would you enjoy a game where you had nothing but grenades and grenade launchers and rocket launchers and the entire game was about repainting everywhere you go with the innards of nazis? Sounds like the prequel to Viscera Cleanup Detail.
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Jan 9, 2015 23:02
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:What did that second mine blast open? A can of whoopass on an unsuspecting Nazi plumber.
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gschmidl posted:Sounds like the prequel to Viscera Cleanup Detail. And it needs to recharge every fight.
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Jan 9, 2015 23:07
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:What did that second mine blast open? There was a second grate in the way.
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Jan 9, 2015 23:10
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anilEhilated posted:Hey, I actually LP'd that. And still need to do the actual cleaning. ANYWAY. Nazis. Am I really the only one who was seriously unimpressed by the LKW? It really doesn't stand out as a weapon, it's only useful against things other weapons are just as useful and it doesn't even offer you that significant of an advantage over the bigger bad guys. its great for oneshotting supersoldiers later on, then switching to another weapon to deal with normal enemies.
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Jan 9, 2015 23:10
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If they made the held charge any larger (pre-upgrades) they probably would risk players ignoring the other, ammo-powered guns completely. I think of it as basically a badass laser holdout weapon with 1 or 2 special times to shine per fight.
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anilEhilated posted:Hey, I actually LP'd that. And still need to do the actual cleaning. ANYWAY. Nazis. Am I really the only one who was seriously unimpressed by the LKW? It really doesn't stand out as a weapon, it's only useful against things other weapons are just as useful and it doesn't even offer you that significant of an advantage over the bigger bad guys. You aren't alone in that, at least compared to the superweapons we've seen in past games. Wolfenstein 2009 may not have been the greatest game in the world but it had some fantastically overpowered guns. Though I also feel like being able to dual wield one of the biggest loving shotguns in video games helps alleviate that.
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Jan 9, 2015 23:17
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Lazyfire posted:As for running around during fights instead of using cover: me sticking in one spot and picking off Nazis is generally the way I want to play the game, but I don't know how much people would want to watch me turn the game into Emplaced Gun Simulator 2014 so I'm going to be running around a bit to show off how you can use the arenas to your advantage when possible instead. Are there going to be any points later on in the game which are so hard that you'll have to mow down ubersoldat's with their own weaponry? If not, maybe you could do it just once to show us how differently the game plays when you're not putting a hand behind your back. I appreciate getting to see everything, but I'd also enjoy seeing some Nazis get hoisted by their own laser petard.
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Jan 9, 2015 23:25
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atal posted:WYATT TIMELINE STUFF
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Noted, I've spoilered it
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anilEhilated posted:Am I really the only one who was seriously unimpressed by the LKW? I do kind of get what you mean. It stinks of "we need a gimmick gun", and I'm never sure if it's a plus or minus that the gimmick ultimately boils down to "solid, dependable, practical DEATH RAY".
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FinalGamer posted:Yanno that COULD be rather spoilery as gently caress just saying cuz we haven't even SEEN that other person yet, you didn't even spoilertag it for gently caress's sake. whoa now. it's not that big a deal.
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Prenton posted:I do kind of get what you mean. It stinks of "we need a gimmick gun", and I'm never sure if it's a plus or minus that the gimmick ultimately boils down to "solid, dependable, practical DEATH RAY". I like the LKW as this game's gimmick gun. It never runs out of ammo, isn't melee, and is, as you said, a solid and dependable laser gun. Does some fancy stuff later on, and is excellent in certain cases, but it manages to hit that sweet spot of 'balance', especially considering how plentiful its 'ammo' is. it isn't the best one by far, it isn't literally trash, and it's pretty satisfying too. Not sure how well it comes off in the videos, but it has a nice "THOON" sound. I like the LKW, basically.
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Serperoth posted:I like the LKW as this game's gimmick gun. It never runs out of ammo, isn't melee, and is, as you said, a solid and dependable laser gun. Does some fancy stuff later on, and is excellent in certain cases, but it manages to hit that sweet spot of 'balance', especially considering how plentiful its 'ammo' is. it isn't the best one by far, it isn't literally trash, and it's pretty satisfying too. Not sure how well it comes off in the videos, but it has a nice "THOON" sound. It also blows nazis into little chunks if you headshot them.
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It's extremely weak early-game, but extremely powerful late-game, IF you remember to pick up all the upgrades for it along the way. So that influenced my opinion of it initially too. At first it was just a bigger, less-efficient laser cutter instead of a weapon.
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Once you get all the upgrades it really does change the feel of the LKW. It took me two playthroughs to really get the feel for the weapon down, and I didn't even know how to activate one of the upgrades until I actually read through the notes and learned how to use it.
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Speedball posted:It's extremely weak early-game, but extremely powerful late-game, IF you remember to pick up all the upgrades for it along the way. So that influenced my opinion of it initially too. At first it was just a bigger, less-efficient laser cutter instead of a weapon. Although, I do question how an experimental Nazi weapon found in London has its upgrades randomly scattered across Berlin. 
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Jan 10, 2015 01:32
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AradoBalanga posted:Yeah, the LKW definitely comes off as a weapon you want to keep an eye out for upgrades. Admittedly, the ones we've seen so far range from rather mundane to making the LKW decent, but not totally insane. Other scientists were attempting to sabotage the final product.
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Jan 10, 2015 01:36
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McTimmy posted:Other scientists were attempting to sabotage the final product. Final upgrade, take off all the goofy, useless, fiddly bits that you've been slapping on it, and it just turns into a big ol' laser particle cannon.
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Jan 10, 2015 01:43
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The upgrades for the laser weapon also start popping up in more obvious places in later levels if you keep missing them. I found this video of me playing through some sections in 999 mode which gives you unlimited ammo (spoilers for late assault rifle upgrade) while browsing my PS4 videos of the game. Contain yourself, anilEhilated.
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AradoBalanga posted:Yeah, the LKW definitely comes off as a weapon you want to keep an eye out for upgrades. Admittedly, the ones we've seen so far range from rather mundane to making the LKW decent, but not totally insane. Da'at Yichud tech. 
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Thunderbro posted:Da'at Yichud tech. This is a reasonable explanation. It's a Da'at Yichud device and integrates with that kind of technology.
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Night10194 posted:Would you enjoy a game where you had nothing but grenades and grenade launchers and rocket launchers and the entire game was about repainting everywhere you go with the innards of nazis? Have you seen Rise of the Triad's remake? That's most of it's gimmick.
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Night10194 posted:It also blows nazis into little chunks if you headshot them. You can cut dick shaped holes in fences, too!
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I do love the LWK just for the evolving weapon aspect, reminds me of the disruption pistol you got in Unreal. I also like how it becomes BJ's signature weapon and stays with you each level even if your other guns don't. The fact that it also gibs Nazis is also a nice touch.
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This LP convinced me to take the plunge, and buy the game. The store was out of the PS3 version, but luckily I own a 360. Of course, when I got back to my apartment I realized that I loaned my 360 to my dad a few months ago... It's going to be a long weekend. 
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Night10194 posted:Would you enjoy a game where you had nothing but grenades and grenade launchers and rocket launchers and the entire game was about repainting everywhere you go with the innards of nazis? Nebiros posted:Have you seen Rise of the Triad's remake? That's most of it's gimmick. While it's missing the Nazi bit it's also possible in Far Cry 2. There's three weapon slots, not counting your machete, and you can have some form of grenade launcher (40mm or rocket-propelled) in all of them.
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