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EL BROMANCE posted:Whether it's the large artwork, the belief of better sound quality (which is all depending on release), the nostalgia, the joy of putting something on a platter and hearing the pops and clicks before the song starts... that's where I am anyway. http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Myths_(Vinyl) The idea that vinyl masters are commonly better than CD masters is pretty bogus, and CD's are capable of way more dynamic range than records. I like records too, though.
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BigFactory posted:http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Myths_(Vinyl) There's nothing wrong with liking records. They have the whole ritual of getting ready to play and if you want to listen to another track, you have to directly interact with the player in a very manual way. It's all very tactile and involving. It's a bit using a fireplace even though you have a perfectly functional central heating system. The whole process of chopping and drying wood, and starting and tending the fire adds another dimension. It may be a lot less efficient, but it is rather romantic and a lot of people enjoy that. The problem comes when people start insisting that older is automatically better. KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jan 9, 2015 |
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Jan 9, 2015 20:48
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Analog is the magic word they go crazy over and that's why I think cds will never have a similar revival.
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but to be fair, a wood burning fire does feel *warmer* than a gas one  not to mention the cracks and pops
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BANME.sh posted:but to be fair, a wood burning fire does feel *warmer* than a gas one It cracks and pops only if you use analog fire.
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BigFactory posted:The idea that vinyl masters are commonly better than CD masters is pretty bogus, and CD's are capable of way more dynamic range than records. CDs are capable of way more dynamic range. The problem, though, is that the vinyl releases of recent albums often have much more dynamic range than the CD/digital versions, because it's technically impossible to apply the brickwall DRC that the digital versions get to the vinyl version. It feeds the "vinyl sounds better" myth, because for a lot of albums it actually does! And that sucks because it turns what should be a slam dunk "of course CDs are better than vinyl, you dolt" argument into "well, CDs theoretically could sound better than vinyl, and would if the engineers and artists making them weren't a bunch of assholes." Theris fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Jan 9, 2015 |
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KozmoNaut posted:There's nothing wrong with liking records. They have the whole ritual of getting ready to play and if you want to listen to another track, you have to directly interact with the player in a very manual way. It's all very tactile and involving. The people I know who have Vinyl: DJs who find it easier to queue up and get the effects they want with vinyl. Collectors who have that original print of David Bowie's first album they bought for $5 bucks from some garage sale. May share a crossover with guys who collect old turntables for aesthetics and need to buy things to play on them. Audiophiles / Hipsters: Digital is just too lifeless and awful for my ears do to (insert magic, etc here). Theris posted:CDs are capable of way more dynamic range. The problem, though, is that the vinyl releases of recent albums often have much more dynamic range than the CD/digital versions, because it's technically impossible to apply the brickwall DRC that the digital versions get to the vinyl version. I'll give you this. However, that has nothing to do with formats. Depressing: Looking at the replay gain values set for albums mastered in the 80s and early 90's verses today.
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Theris posted:CDs are capable of way more dynamic range. The problem, though, is that the vinyl releases of recent albums often have much more dynamic range than the CD/digital versions, because it's technically impossible to apply the brickwall DRC that the digital versions get to the vinyl version. I think that's true in very few examples.
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"Vinyl sounds better" 90% of the time comes from "I really like the RIAA standard equalization curve sound".
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Anyone else working the Venetian at CES this year? Day 5 and I'm about ready to kill myself. If someone asks me to play a record with "lots of transience" one more time I think I'm gonna crack.
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Ethanfr0me posted:Anyone else working the Venetian at CES this year? Day 5 and I'm about ready to kill myself. If someone asks me to play a record with "lots of transience" one more time I think I'm gonna crack. Tell them they wanna go to Circus Circus for lots of transients! 
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Ethanfr0me posted:Anyone else working the Venetian at CES this year? Day 5 and I'm about ready to kill myself. If someone asks me to play a record with "lots of transience" one more time I think I'm gonna crack. this is my favorite audiophile CES product quote:
for 48 grand you could get a serious system from even some of the companies we make fun of in this thread hell you could get a system with a streaming interface, amp and a record player for that much and still be way in the realm of esoterica
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polynominal-c posted:It cracks and pops only if you use analog fire. The CD of fireplaces.
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qirex posted:this is my favorite audiophile CES product That is the fugliest looking amp I've ever seen.
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Please post as much ridiculous poo poo from CES as you possibly can 
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Business must be profitable enough, if they can rent a spot at CES.
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Jan 10, 2015 14:58
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Here's my favourite CES thing, a $1200 android device with the Walkman named slapped on it. http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/5/7493145/new-sony-walkman-zx2-ces-2015
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"High-end audiophiles."
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luncheon meat posted:Here's my favourite CES thing, a $1200 android device with the Walkman named slapped on it. And to think Sony used to be at the top of the electronics chain.
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Jan 11, 2015 01:26
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The large + and - buttons look very silly compared to the smaller indicators on the other buttons.
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luncheon meat posted:Here's my favourite CES thing, a $1200 android device with the Walkman named slapped on it. quote:Specs-wise, the new Walkman supports DSD, WAV, AIFF, FLAC, Apple Lossless, and more. So does every Android device.
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VideoTapir posted:So does every Android device. Yup, and I believe you can even mod a lot of phones to output up to 192khz, which I'm sure will be somewhere in the specs of this thing.
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luncheon meat posted:Yup, and I believe you can even mod a lot of phones to output up to 192khz, which I'm sure will be somewhere in the specs of this thing. Well thank goodness for that.
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I know. I can't wait for the MP3s I put on my memory card to surpass studio quality! These podcasts... so *crisp*
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BANME.sh posted:but to be fair, a wood burning fire does feel *warmer* than a gas one Wood is a hell of a lot cheaper than gas for heating unless you live in cheap gas land. (Coincidentally, the reason I started buying LPs instead of CDs was that for the stuff I was buying at the time, new LP releases usually cost two euros less than the CD versions. Dunno why  )
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luncheon meat posted:Here's my favourite CES thing, a $1200 android device with the Walkman named slapped on it. I have a mil-bro that is 100% audiophile. I try to talk him out of everything, and he saw this thing at CES. I told him that it's literally a stupid piece of poo poo that isn't going to even work. Good thing he doesn't listen, because he's buying all the old audio gear I don't use off me!
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in case you were wondering even the people making the pono don't think high resolution music sounds any better but they're happy to make an ancient probably going deaf old man's vision come to fruition http://nypost.com/2015/01/11/do-consumers-really-care-about-digital-quality/ there's of course argument like this highly impartial take on things: quote:“Of course hi-res files are better,” says David Chesky, a New York-based composer and digital recording pioneer who is also CEO of HDTracks, an online distributor of hi-res music. “You run into problems when you downsample (a hi-res file to CD-quality) … it gets grungier and closed in. It sounds like your 14-foot ceiling came down to 8 feet.”.
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Has less echo? I had 14 ft ceilings. They sound terrible.
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KillHour posted:I had 14 ft ceilings. They sound terrible.
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Speaking of horrendously expensive music players that do nothing from CES 2015, what the hell is the Astell & Kern AK500N meant to do? Costs £9000 and...it rips CDs fast and slow...?
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Chafe posted:Speaking of horrendously expensive music players that do nothing from CES 2015, what the hell is the Astell & Kern AK500N meant to do? It's "opulent" and "made for audiophiles". You wouldn't understand (it's a £9k squeezebox with added audiophile adjectives, that runs on batteries)
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Khablam posted:(it's a £9k squeezebox with added audiophile adjectives, that runs on batteries) I'm pretty sure the batteries are used to bootstrap the real system at power on so it can initiate pulling the dreams of angels from the ether, which is what this device truly uses for power.
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Anyone post this yet?
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It's just mislabeled. It should be "Pono Music Storage Requirements"
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Khablam posted:(it's a £9k squeezebox with added audiophile adjectives, that runs on batteries) I admit if I was building a fancy system I'd want something like this though just to look nicer than a sonos play. 
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I bought my sonos form a hifi shop and when I was paying for it I casually said "too bad the play is so expensive given that this speaker has all the same stuff in it and a speaker" and the guy ringing me up didn't get it and looked at me like I was crazy.
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The Devil Tesla posted:Anyone post this yet? I keep thinking it says "porno" and I get unreasonably interested.
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Yeah, where's my porno with audiophile quality soundtrack?!? No more actors engaging in a loudness war.
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 Best audiophile product-and not even marketed as such that I know of.
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