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Mogomra posted:You can explain away RE0-2's geography all you want, but RE3's will never make sense. Raccoon City is a town where the Mayor spends taxpayer money to build an elaborate puzzle mechanism into a statue of himself so he can hide a car battery.
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Lamprey Cannon posted:Personally I object to this way less than the idea that a few hills over from the crazy mansion owned by a shady pharmaceuticals company with a secret lab underneath it, there's a second crazy mansion owned by a shady pharmaceuticals company with a secret lab underneath it that nobody has thus far given the slightest attention to. One's the famous home of noted billionaire eccentric (and owner of local police/media/politicians) Ozwell Spencer; one's the shuttered, mothballed training facility of the locally-headquartered Umbrella Corporation. Neither are particularly remarkable on the face of it until you get inside and start running into death traps, themed keys, and human experimentation. Sakurazuka posted:I know at least where it comes from, all the tiny streets and everything plonked down almost completely at random and at a crazy angle is pretty much every Japanese town. Yeah, the RE3 version of Raccoon City is very obviously Japanese. I seem to remember someone back in the day pointing out that the water hookup on the wall that you have to use with the hose to solve a puzzle relatively early in the game is practically unheard-of in North America, where we almost always use fire hydrants, and ubiquitous in Japan. It's another example of how the series is essentially a thin American skin over a Japanese game. StandardVC10 posted:Having it explored partially in RE0 just raises new questions though. Such as, "why the hell does nobody seem to care about it at the time?" There are a lot of little things in RE0 that raise more questions than they answer, yeah, like how Billy takes one look at the dead skeletons underneath the processing facility, in the room where you meet back up with him before the endgame, and the first thing out of his mouth is "They're experimenting with the mother virus!" That's been taken as proof among RE grognards for years that Billy knows a lot more than he's letting on.
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Wanderer posted:There are a lot of little things in RE0 that raise more questions than they answer, yeah, like how Billy takes one look at the dead skeletons underneath the processing facility, in the room where you meet back up with him before the endgame, and the first thing out of his mouth is "They're experimenting with the mother virus!" That's been taken as proof among RE grognards for years that Billy knows a lot more than he's letting on. Is it possible that the characters are just assumed to have read all the same files that the player would have found at that point? It's been a really long time since I've played RE0 so I have no idea if this would clear that up or not.
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Geight posted:Is it possible that the characters are just assumed to have read all the same files that the player would have found at that point? It's been a really long time since I've played RE0 so I have no idea if this would clear that up or not. well how else would Claire know how to synthesize the vaccine for Sherry if she didn't actually READ the notes that Annette hands her, same with Leon reading Ben's article. I mean that's just rude to pocket something like that on someone's deathbed 
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Man, there's some real missed potential with the lack of extra costumes for agent in RE6 mercenaries. Like, I know he's a surrogate non-existant character for player 2 in Ada's story, but if you're not interested in him at all, put someone else in instead. It seems to me, though, that his extra costumes would've been a great place to add in some cameos from other games, or some really crazy/silly costumes. Instead if you're playing agent and you get an A rank you just get nothing. 
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Anonymous Robot posted:Man, there's some real missed potential with the lack of extra costumes for agent in RE6 mercenaries. Like, I know he's a surrogate non-existant character for player 2 in Ada's story, but if you're not interested in him at all, put someone else in instead. It seems to me, though, that his extra costumes would've been a great place to add in some cameos from other games, or some really crazy/silly costumes. Instead if you're playing agent and you get an A rank you just get nothing. He wasn't even intended to be in the game Capcom put that in because people bitched. Why would they do even more work than they have to?
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Ada's campaign was originally single player only. The Agent was added in as a complete hack job later on because people complained about it not being co-op.
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That makes a lot more sense, then. It also explains why he doesn't have grappling hook animations and stuff.
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Dr. Abysmal posted:Ada's campaign was originally single player only. The Agent was added in as a complete hack job later on because people complained about it not being co-op. And then they complained that he was a hack job and didn't get special animations or voices.
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So who else agrees that Resident Evil: Revelations is an above average-ish game (Jill and the Ship) trapped in a below average-ish game (everything else, excluding Raid Mode)? Discuss. (P.S. Still better than RE0.)
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JesusLovesRonwell posted:So who else agrees that Resident Evil: Revelations is an above average-ish game (Jill and the Ship) trapped in a below average-ish game (everything else, excluding Raid Mode)? I think it's a promising return to form minus the particularly anime plot and I'm stoked as gently caress for Revelations 2 aka Code Veronica 2 starring Barry loving Burton
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Ok for a second there I thought you included Raid mode in the below-average part... it is seriously a better shooter Diablo than Destiny is.
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Everyone who posts in this thread needs to buy the re release of REmake. I believe if it sells well we will be one step closer to capcom making a completely original classic style RE game for PSN/xbox live. not that y'all needed my encouragement or anything Bulkiest Toaster fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Jan 6, 2015 |
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Bulkiest Toaster posted:Everyone who posts in this thread needs to buy the re release of REmake. I believe if it sells well we will be one step closer to capcom making a completely original classic style RE game for PSN/xbox live. Probably not. The original games are very much a product of their period. What you'd be telling Capcom is that there's still a strong market for horror. Geight posted:Is it possible that the characters are just assumed to have read all the same files that the player would have found at that point? It's been a really long time since I've played RE0 so I have no idea if this would clear that up or not. It's probably a safe assumption, and by that point, you've read several volumes of James Marcus's diary, so there'd be a basis for Billy knowing what the "mother virus" is. He has no adequate way of knowing, however, what it looks like when someone experiments with it, or why these gnawed skeletons look sufficiently different as to suggest that they're test subjects.
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Wanderer posted:Probably not. The original games are very much a product of their period. What you'd be telling Capcom is that there's still a strong market for horror. Not necessarily. The reason they re-released Revelations in HD after Resident Evil 6's reception was to gauge the interest in a more survival horror Resident Evil in the current market; following it with Remake HD and Revelations 2 strongly suggests they're continuing to dip their feet in those waters.
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JesusLovesRonwell posted:So who else agrees that Resident Evil: Revelations is an above average-ish game (Jill and the Ship) trapped in a below average-ish game (everything else, excluding Raid Mode)? I would agree. The ship part is the best part because you actually have a inventory and it doesn't feel as on rails as the rest of it. I sometimes think they did a disservice by branching into so many different characters because their experiences are shallow as hell with the exception of a few missions. Bulkiest Toaster posted:Everyone who posts in this thread needs to buy the re release of REmake. I believe if it sells well we will be one step closer to capcom making a completely original classic style RE game for PSN/xbox live. Im a bit hesitant to buy it because I have played it to death on Gamecube, and they couldn't be bothered to even add anything to make it interesting for me to come back. I mean I would have been fine if they simply allowed me to skip the door opening animations or adding a infinite ammo mode or something blackguy32 fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Jan 7, 2015 |
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blackguy32 posted:I would agree. The ship part is the best part because you actually have a inventory and it doesn't feel as on rails as the rest of it. I sometimes think they did a disservice by branching into so many different characters because their experiences are shallow as hell with the exception of a few missions. The idea was pretty clearly to combine RE-classic and RE4+ style gameplay with one swapping to the other since they otherwise don't mesh very well. It's an interesting idea but kinda needed better writing than it got.
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ImpAtom posted:The idea was pretty clearly to combine RE-classic and RE4+ style gameplay with one swapping to the other since they otherwise don't mesh very well. It's an interesting idea but kinda needed better writing than it got. True, but I felt that Jill's gameplay was RE4 enough already. I mean, not all of RE4 is similar to the village section
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TailsButtholeGuy posted:Not necessarily. The reason they re-released Revelations in HD after Resident Evil 6's reception was to gauge the interest in a more survival horror Resident Evil in the current market; following it with Remake HD and Revelations 2 strongly suggests they're continuing to dip their feet in those waters. Yeah, of course, but you're never going to see a fixed-camera, static-background game again unless a bunch of enterprising fans get together and make it themselves. Better technology exists now, and the only reason you saw anything in that mold after games moved off the original PlayStation was the sheer change resistance of the nerd market. It'd be like a bunch of guys in 2015 sitting down and making a lazy-rear end hand-drawn cartoon show in the spirit of the original "Masters of the Universe." It's more work than you need to do and you're almost guaranteed a worse result.
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Wanderer posted:Yeah, of course, but you're never going to see a fixed-camera, static-background game again unless a bunch of enterprising fans get together and make it themselves. Better technology exists now, and the only reason you saw anything in that mold after games moved off the original PlayStation was the sheer change resistance of the nerd market. Yeah, I'd agree that we'll never see a Resident Evil that plays like the older titles. It wouldn't be a stretch to imagine a Resi 2 remake down the line, but it's almost guaranteed to be redone over the shoulder style, not how Remake was done. Still, that they're starting to wind back down to the survival horror elements of the series is a welcome development.
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TailsButtholeGuy posted:Still, that they're starting to wind back down to the survival horror elements of the series is a welcome development. They never exactly left. The budgets just got bigger, so the games' scope expanded. A theoretical HD, over-the-shoulder remake of either RE2 or RE3 would not be thematically dissimilar to any of the post-RE4 games.
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Wanderer posted:They never exactly left. The budgets just got bigger, so the games' scope expanded. A theoretical HD, over-the-shoulder remake of either RE2 or RE3 would not be thematically dissimilar to any of the post-RE4 games. I also think it makes sense for the action and scope to expand in the later games since it mirrors the theme of bioweapons leading to bioterror But Resident Evil 5 and 6 weren't exactly atmospheric slow burns. Revelations at least somewhat hearkened back to that.
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TailsButtholeGuy posted:But Resident Evil 5 and 6 weren't exactly atmospheric slow burns. Neither were RE2 or RE3. RE2 starts with a hell-for-leather sprint through downtown Raccoon City while it's on fire, and RE3 begins with Jill literally diving out of an explosion. There are certainly a few tense spots throughout both games, but I think a lot of people bolt their nostalgia goggles on extra tight when it comes to the original-flavor RE.
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Some renders of enemies in Rev2, distinctly lacking in complete global saturation. I'll admit that the revenant is a bit terrifying though.
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Wanderer posted:Neither were RE2 or RE3. RE2 starts with a hell-for-leather sprint through downtown Raccoon City while it's on fire, and RE3 begins with Jill literally diving out of an explosion. There are certainly a few tense spots throughout both games, but I think a lot of people bolt their nostalgia goggles on extra tight when it comes to the original-flavor RE. I'm not sure. You got things like moving through the ruined Racoon City in the older games, while something like 6 is waving constant action in your face pretty much all the time. Technically there are parts when you aren't fighting, but it didn't really do atmosphere all that well in the newer games.
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Actually the spooky Disney Safari ride through China was maybe the best part of RE6, weirdly enough.
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Anonymous Robot posted:Actually the spooky Disney Safari ride through China was maybe the best part of RE6, weirdly enough. Who's campaign is that? I've got a weird thing where I've played only half of re6.mostly because I can never get a coop partner with full attention for the entire game.
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Ineffiable posted:Who's campaign is that? I've got a weird thing where I've played only half of re6.mostly because I can never get a coop partner with full attention for the entire game. Chris' campaign. There's an on rails part where a guy drives you through a fog choked city and you just get to watch monsters in the distant mist and spooky tableus and it actually works pretty well by contrast to all the other vehicle segments in the game.
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Anonymous Robot posted:Chris' campaign. There's an on rails part where a guy drives you through a fog choked city and you just get to watch monsters in the distant mist and spooky tableus and it actually works pretty well by contrast to all the other vehicle segments in the game. That's in Leon's campaign, but it is cool.
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TailsButtholeGuy posted:Remake HD is up for preorder now. $20 $15 at Green Man Gaming if you're a VIP. I don't know if it costs money to be a VIP or if I got a free month because I just signed up. All I know is I preordered for $15 and it says they'll send me a Steam key on the 20th or a few days before.
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Anonymous Robot posted:Chris' campaign. There's an on rails part where a guy drives you through a fog choked city and you just get to watch monsters in the distant mist and spooky tableus and it actually works pretty well by contrast to all the other vehicle segments in the game. Does anyone have screenshots of this? It sounds really cool but RE6 just didn't pull me in even though I enjoyed it to a point. I probably missed a lot of small interesting things like that.
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Wanderer posted:Yeah, of course, but you're never going to see a fixed-camera, static-background game again unless a bunch of enterprising fans get together and make it themselves. Better technology exists now, and the only reason you saw anything in that mold after games moved off the original PlayStation was the sheer change resistance of the nerd market. I see what your saying, but then how do you explain all the pixel art indie games and 2D side scrolling throwbacks. I think it could totally work to make make an old school survival horror game in 2015, and also modernizing some of the elements that where held back by technology and archaic game design. I imagine something maybe with pre set camera angles for building atmosphere but also the ability to aim from over the shoulder. You are right that it will probably come from fans or the indie scene but I feel like re-exploring the survival horror genre from the 90s in a modern context is something that could be pretty cool.
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Monday_ posted:$15 at Green Man Gaming if you're a VIP. I don't know if it costs money to be a VIP or if I got a free month because I just signed up. All I know is I preordered for $15 and it says they'll send me a Steam key on the 20th or a few days before. I think VIP is just a marketing gimmick to get people to sign up, I'm pretty sure it's open to all members. I just bought it too, so thanks for mentioning it
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Hakkesshu posted:I think VIP is just a marketing gimmick to get people to sign up, I'm pretty sure it's open to all members. I just bought it too, so thanks for mentioning it 25% off of Arkham Knight for Pre-ordering it sounds pretty awesome though. Do they charge you in advance for pre-orders at GMG or only when the game is launched/code sent to you?
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Bulkiest Toaster posted:I see what your saying, but then how do you explain all the pixel art indie games and 2D side scrolling throwbacks. They're cheap and easy to make with a small team in your spare time.
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In re4, how strong is the knife? Basic handgun is 1.0,so is the knife something like 0.5-1.0?
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