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cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Flat Daddy posted:

are you taking about ubuntu one (tm) or something else?
yes, that one

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Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
ubuntu one is still teh default backup source for the duplicity gui frontend aptly named "Backups" on ubuntu

Kathleen
Feb 26, 2013

Grimey Drawer
when the linux kernel becomes compilable with clang and most distros have ripped out the last bits of gnu userland do you think rms will finally off himself?

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

focal ischemia posted:

when the linux kernel becomes compilable with clang and most distros have ripped out the last bits of gnu userland do you think rms will finally off himself?

we'll always have emacs :unsmith:

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica

focal ischemia posted:

when the linux kernel becomes compilable with clang and most distros have ripped out the last bits of gnu userland do you think rms will finally off himself?

No.

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

Soricidus posted:

we'll always have emacs :unsmith:

emacs maintainer is in the process of forking emacs because rms has opinions about emacs

There Will Be Penalty
May 18, 2002

Makes a great pet!

pseudorandom name posted:

emacs maintainer is in the process of forking emacs because rms has opinions about emacs

linku plzu

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007


https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-01/msg00171.html

tldr: emacs wants to pipe gcc IR into emacs do do all the things that libclang does, rms is delusional enough to still believe that people will attach their own proprietary language frontend to gcc's backend instead of just using llvm

Maximum Leader
Dec 5, 2014
whoever keeps pushing money into canonical must be out of his mind

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

pseudorandom name posted:

emacs maintainer is in the process of forking emacs because rms has opinions about emacs

welp

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

pseudorandom name posted:

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-01/msg00171.html

tldr: emacs wants to pipe gcc IR into emacs do do all the things that libclang does, rms is delusional enough to still believe that people will attach their own proprietary language frontend to gcc's backend instead of just using llvm

I remember sending developers off to gcc summits to try and get AST-export interfaces accepted upstream, years ago. it finally took, but man, nobody is sad when their boss says "sorry, you have to switch from extending gcc to using llvm". talk about fighting the last war.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

focal ischemia posted:

when the linux kernel becomes compilable with clang and most distros have ripped out the last bits of gnu userland do you think rms will finally off himself?

nobody is going to start yanking out bits of gnu userland, even if lsb compliance were somehow possible with non-gnu tools, because gnu userland is far and away the best.

first step to a usable solaris system is installing gnu coreutils

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2

Suspicious Dish posted:

The companies still have some mistaken belief that they can supplant Android (see: Tizen, Windows Phone, webOS), and that's who Canonical sells to.
Who have they sold to

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Cardboard Box A posted:

Who have they sold to

Valve, LG, Samsung, Dell, HP have all had big engineering contracts with Canonical for a long time.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Suspicious Dish posted:

Valve, LG, Samsung, Dell, HP have all had big engineering contracts with Canonical for a long time.

samsung has tizen
lg has webos

what the gently caress are valve, dell, and hp paying for

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

Valve was SteamOS, I'm assuming Dell and HP paid them to be their pre-installed Linux provider

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

pseudorandom name posted:

Valve was SteamOS, I'm assuming Dell and HP paid them to be their pre-installed Linux provider

steamos is debian based.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

The_Franz posted:

steamos is debian based.

Only after Valve canceled their contract with Canonical and switched to Collabora. If you look at some of the package sources, you'll see @canonical.com in the changelogs, until suddenly you start seeing @collabora.com instead.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
There's also plenty of small smartphone manufacturers like Xiaomi, HTC, TCL which are all looking for a break away from Android's iron grip. That's where Canonical's current business is.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
is steamos still around? being worked on? ??? whats uip with steamOS!!!!!!???

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

Smythe posted:

is steamos still around? being worked on? ??? whats uip with steamOS!!!!!!???

supposedly we'll see the second coming of the steambox at gdc this year

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

pseudorandom name posted:

supposedly we'll see the second coming of the steambox at gdc this year



excelelnt lol

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
also is this for real: there is a bluestacks client for chromeOS but not one for linux. debian nor fedora? am i reading this right?? am i gonna have2 run teh BlueStacks Windows Client in WINE ?????

qntm
Jun 17, 2009

Suspicious Dish posted:

Only after Valve canceled their contract with Canonical and switched to Collabora. If you look at some of the package sources, you'll see @canonical.com in the changelogs, until suddenly you start seeing @collabora.com instead.

whoah, collabora was founded by a friend of mine from university

that's the first time I've seen their name come up externally

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Smythe posted:

also is this for real: there is a bluestacks client for chromeOS but not one for linux. debian nor fedora? am i reading this right?? am i gonna have2 run teh BlueStacks Windows Client in WINE ?????
yes youre hosed if you need both linux and bluestacks
got to virtualbox it or something

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

qntm posted:

whoah, collabora was founded by a friend of mine from university

that's the first time I've seen their name come up externally

Collabora is a huge Linux consulting firm, it comes up all the time.

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
keeping anroid and chromeos separate seems like one of the less dumb things goog did, in retrospect

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Mr Dog posted:

keeping anroid and chromeos separate seems like one of the less dumb things goog did, in retrospect

Having two consumer brands for every product space was a great idea. The duplication between Android TV and Chromecast is clearly a great idea.

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

You forgot Google TV.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

pseudorandom name posted:

You forgot Google TV.

Which was replaced by Android TV.

There was also some weird thing on our cheap set-top-box SDKs that was branded with "Google TV" but was a weird launcher that our resident Chinese expert Gary said was called "Television Cat 2.0".

theadder
Dec 30, 2011


the year of android on the tv

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost

Suspicious Dish posted:

Having two consumer brands for every product space was a great idea. The duplication between Android TV and Chromecast is clearly a great idea.

yeah Apple are so dumb for keeping iOS and OSX separate. They should have done what Windows 8 did, look how much everyone loved that.

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

Smythe posted:

is steamos still around? being worked on? ??? whats uip with steamOS!!!!!!???

will 2015 be the year of half life 3 on the steamos?

lol fat chance

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Mr Dog posted:

yeah Apple are so dumb for keeping iOS and OSX separate. They should have done what Windows 8 did, look how much everyone loved that.

Yeah, I remember when they introduced Apple TV and iTV as two competing products in the same market space showing clear vision and direction from Stebe.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Mr Dog posted:

keeping anroid and chromeos separate seems like one of the less dumb things goog did, in retrospect

android was really more like a wholly-owned subsidiary than a division for a very long time

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
it still is

Lysidas
Jul 26, 2002

John Diefenbaker is a madman who thinks he's John Diefenbaker.
Pillbug
what the gently caress is fedora server

pram
Jun 10, 2001
rhel

Lysidas
Jul 26, 2002

John Diefenbaker is a madman who thinks he's John Diefenbaker.
Pillbug
not convinced by https://getfedora.org/en/server/ that fedora server = rhel

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pram
Jun 10, 2001
lol idk then is that like, fedora lts? what is the loving point

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