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Completely true that companies are always looking to take their competitors down a peg, I do not dispute that. Purina does have a lot of resources to throw around, but Blue isn't exactly a small time game in the pet food world. I neglected to mention earlier that the particular supplier they're blaming has had problems using the wrong or bad ingredients in the past (apparently)... while supplying Blue before.
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*cough* Speaking of purina *cough* any thoughts on my recent question regarding their beyond pet food? 
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khy posted:*cough* Speaking of purina *cough* any thoughts on my recent question regarding their beyond pet food? They're Purina's attempt at the whole anti-grain/anti-by-product fad. They're also making a big deal of ingredient and manufacturing locations/sourcing. If that interests you, go for it. I think it looks fine.
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Anyone have a favorite (read:cheap) place online to get Solid Gold Indigo Moon dry food?
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Just in case this information is useful to anyone else... my pet supply store informed me today that By Nature has basically discontinued their lines of wet food (and are working on reformulating it all?). This seems to be confirmed by their website their website, which lists wet cat food and dog food as "Coming Soon." So... that kinda sucks, I guess. My cats were super into the 95% Tuna & Chicken. :-/
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We adopted a 3 year old Bernese Mountain Dog a few months ago and we've been feeding him Fromm Adult Gold Dry (same as our 2 year old Lab) ever since. I was reminded that the vet from the rescue said we should feed him his brand of food because he sold a special kind that would help with his articulations. I didn't think much of it at the time because I thought he was just trying to sell me his overpriced food but I'm feeling bad and wondering if I should consider switching him to something else? My dog's weight is great, he loves the food and all that. I think you can add glucosamine with chondroitin or something like that but is it really effective? Basically I don't know what I'm doing.
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internet inc posted:We adopted a 3 year old Bernese Mountain Dog a few months ago and we've been feeding him Fromm Adult Gold Dry (same as our 2 year old Lab) ever since. I was reminded that the vet from the rescue said we should feed him his brand of food because he sold a special kind that would help with his articulations. I didn't think much of it at the time because I thought he was just trying to sell me his overpriced food but I'm feeling bad and wondering if I should consider switching him to something else? My dog's weight is great, he loves the food and all that. I think you can add glucosamine with chondroitin or something like that but is it really effective? As for the food, I'm guessing your vet was talking about a prescription joint diet like Hill's j/d or Purina JM. These are basically dog food with a ton of joint supplements added into the food. It's expensive compared to normal food but it comes out about even if you factor in the cost of all the supplements that are already in the diet. I think there have been some questions raised about the shelf life and stability of said supplements once they're mixed into the food, so personally I'd probably stick with regular food unless your dog has terrible joint disease and you're willing to try anything.
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Thanks! That was really helpful.  He doesn't show any signs of joint ailments. I think the vet wanted us to go on a preventive diet because most BMDs end up with bad hips/elbows. I think I'll stick with my food for now, I'm not a fan of the snake oil vibe you describe. Is there anything else I can do to help his eventual condition? I assume not too much running and all that? I always feel bad leaving him outside with my Lab too long because he doesn't get tired and keeps dragging the BMD into playing again. 
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Feb 13, 2015 05:26
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As a follow-up to my last post about By Nature's difficulties with wet food, their customer service responded to a message I sent them asking what was up. Here's the details:quote:Thank you for contacting us with your inquiry. We are sorry for the inconvenience you have experienced with the lack of availability of our wet food due to ongoing issues we have been experiencing with the cannery which manufactures our product line.
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Feb 20, 2015 22:09
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I've got a couple of random dog food questions. Mine has been on Wellness dry food for several months and it still isn't quite agreeing with him so I'm going to switch. Looking at Back To Basics - anybody have knowledge or experience of their stuff? From what I know it looks just fine. Also, what do people think about those Greenies chew things?
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Feb 22, 2015 23:07
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slap me silly posted:
Dog cocaine. Worth the price as well, it cleans teeth and makes Max flip his poo poo about as well as an old dog can.
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Feb 23, 2015 10:20
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Tater gets a Greenie daily and his vet had to stop everything and admire his teeth last time we were there for an unrelated visit. Owns.
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Feb 26, 2015 05:59
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(Also he needs one after the dog park where he'll gobble up a heap of dog poo poo most days)
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Feb 26, 2015 06:02
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Tayter Swift posted:Tater gets a Greenie daily and his vet had to stop everything and admire his teeth last time we were there for an unrelated visit. Owns. This is unlikely to ever happen with my dog. But I ordered some, we'll see how it goes! Thanks y'all for the feedback
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Feb 26, 2015 06:28
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Oh I should pick some up too. I guess I was under the false impression that they were hard to digest. That'll teach me to believe some random website I googled.
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Feb 26, 2015 09:09
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Xtanstic posted:Oh I should pick some up too. I guess I was under the false impression that they were hard to digest. That'll teach me to believe some random website I googled. iirc Greenies had a maybe-issue like 10 years ago. Now they flex when you bend them but they used to be hard like Nutri-dent, so that might help with the dogs swallowing big chunks (also use the right size chew product for your dog).
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Feb 26, 2015 14:32
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Also, any chew toy or treat that the dog swallows in big chunks is going to be a risk for blockage, in addition to not cleaning effectively since it didn't really get chewed. Some dogs are good chewers, some are gulpers, so just keep an eye on your dog with whatever chew toy or treat you give them.
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Feb 26, 2015 16:24
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Noticed this on Nature's Variety's website on their Chicken kibble for cats, looks like they lost a bit of protein and probably made it up with carbs? Dunno. http://www.instinctpetfood.com/product/instinct-grain-free-kibble-cat-food-chicken Click "Nutrients" --> "Show guaranteed analysis for products with "best if used by date" prior to 5/24/15" Before 5/24/15: Calories 460 kcal/cup 3810 kcal/kg Guaranteed Analysis Crude Protein (min): 49.0% Crude Fat (min): 19.0% Crude Fiber (max): 2.8% Moisture (max): 10.0% After 5/24/15: Calorie Content (Calculated) Metabolizable Energy 448 kcal/cup 3811 kcal/kg Guaranteed Analysis Crude Protein (min): 45.0% Crude Fat (min): 19.0% Crude Fiber (max): 3.0%
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Feb 27, 2015 05:21
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http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/class-action-lawsuit-filed-against-purina-over-all/nkLBS/ If the tests are legit, the mycotoxins test, yuck. I mean, yuck anyway, right, but, yeah. It has a link on the left side to a PDF about the lab testing. I don't understand it, but it looks like it was pretty high in Zearalenone, which from light wikipediaing looks to be pretty nasty of a mycotoxin.
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Feb 28, 2015 07:22
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My dog's dentist says that all those expensive-rear end dental chews like greenies and dentastixs don't actually do anything and you're better off just spending a couple dollars on a toothbrush and brushing their teeth. It's basically like chewing a piece of gum vs brushing your teeth. The gum might make your teeth feel cleaner and your breath smell nice but it doesn't do much in the long run for your dental health. We still toss the dogs a dentastix every so often, but only if their breath is getting a little gross. Otherwise it's tooth brushing the whole way. Problem! fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Feb 28, 2015 |
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We just adopted a new puppy and did a bunch of research on what kind of food to get. We ended up going with Acana Puppy and Junior because the ingredients seem really high quality and my brother's dog does really well on it and she's a similar breed. Our dog seems to be doing really well with it so far, but when I brought her in to the vet for her 2nd set of vaccines, the vet said we should be looking for AAFCO "tested" food for puppies, and not "formulated" because it hasn't actually been tested and proven to be beneficial for puppies. Also that it should specifically say for the "growing" stage of life, and not "all life stages". He recommended Hill's Science Diet for puppies because it's actually been tested and is for growing puppies blah blah. I have no problems getting whichever food will be best for her, but this vet clinic works off commission and they have a reputation for recommending tests and I assume food that aren't always necessary, so I'm a bit wary switching over. I don't like that there is corn and what seems like a lot of preservatives and other junk in there, whereas Acana seems a lot more natural and higher quality ingredients. It's also made in Canada, which we try and support as much as possible. So my question is whether it really is such a big deal that something is formulated vs tested to AAFCO standards? Any insight on this?
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Feb 28, 2015 23:17
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Apparently my dog (Pembroke Welsh Corgi) dragged a roll of Thin Mints out of my fiancee's purse and downed the entire thing. Should we be worried? He seems fine right now and she's more mad at him than worried, but this hasn't happened before.
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Mar 7, 2015 02:21
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How much does he weigh? Those things are mostly flour/sugar/fat and hardly have any chocolate, so it's probably fine except he might get the shits. You could call these guys if you're concerned, for $65: http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/animal-poison-control or your local emergency vet. Note: I am not any kind of animal expert.
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slap me silly posted:How much does he weigh? Those things are mostly flour/sugar/fat and hardly have any chocolate, so it's probably fine except he might get the shits. You could call these guys if you're concerned, for $65: http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/animal-poison-control or your local emergency vet. Note: I am not any kind of animal expert. 30 pounds. He seems fine and my fiancee is home all day tomorrow so we'll be able to keep an eye on him. And yeah, not looking forward to his turds tomorrow.
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I fed a 35 pound dog a half dozen chocolate covered donuts one time (by accident of course) and he was fine. Good luck!
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My dogs pulled a whole bag of dark chocolate Reese's out of my pantry once, I never would've known if I hadn't found the ripped open bag. Both were 100% fine, not even any weird shits or anything. If he starts puking or acting weird I'd take him to a vet but until then just wait it out.
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CarrotFlowers posted:We just adopted a new puppy and did a bunch of research on what kind of food to get. We ended up going with Acana Puppy and Junior because the ingredients seem really high quality and my brother's dog does really well on it and she's a similar breed. Our dog seems to be doing really well with it so far, but when I brought her in to the vet for her 2nd set of vaccines, the vet said we should be looking for AAFCO "tested" food for puppies, and not "formulated" because it hasn't actually been tested and proven to be beneficial for puppies. Also that it should specifically say for the "growing" stage of life, and not "all life stages". He recommended Hill's Science Diet for puppies because it's actually been tested and is for growing puppies blah blah. Not a vet or an animal food specialist, but Acana is made by the same company as Orijen and it's a bloody top quality food, not a bogus boutique brand with questionable practices. My puppy is on an all life stages food (Go!) and it just means he gets fed the suggested portions for puppies. I don't think there's really any problem unless your dog is a huge breed that might need something put together with a large breed in mind to make sure they don't screw up their joints or whatever. For what its worth my vet also gave the total all clear for all life stages food. My personal opinion on Hills Science Diet is that its fine if it's prescribed because it's been tested to treat a certain issue or condition (I/D has been a godsend), but there are far better options out there for normal food for your pets.
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I have the same thoughts on Science Diet. If it's prescribed for a certain condition then yes by all means use it but for just regular every day dog food I'd go with something higher quality like Acana.
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C-Euro posted:Apparently my dog (Pembroke Welsh Corgi) dragged a roll of Thin Mints out of my fiancee's purse and downed the entire thing. Should we be worried? He seems fine right now and she's more mad at him than worried, but this hasn't happened before. Cocoa is way down the list of ingredients in pretty much every Girl Scout cookie that uses it. They're more oil and shortening and whatnot than they are chocolate. My dog managed to eat half a sleeve of Tagalongs once, weighs about 10 lbs, and didn't show any reaction at all. While ideally you don't want your dog to eat chocolate at all, they'd need A LOT of Girl Scout cookies to get an amount that would cause damage.
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Culex posted:http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/class-action-lawsuit-filed-against-purina-over-all/nkLBS/ I've heard some of these molds cans develop if a product becomes wet and then sits for awhile - so if a distributor, store, or individual doesn't handle appropriately, bad things can happen. I'd wait to see tests on a wider scale before coming down on the whole product.
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Is anyone here familiar with brands available in the EU or UK? I'm an American living in Sweden and I'm having a bit of difficulty finding nutritionally sound foods for my cat. I can get Orijen and Acana, so I'm sorted on the dry food front, but I would like to incorporate a lot more wet food into Miso's diet and I'd like to know what to look for other than high protein and absence of filler. For example, I've seen brands that list "chicken" as the main ingredient at 75%, but couldn't that mean just chicken feet and offal? I've seen small amounts of rice in some of the wet cat food too, should I write it off even if it's just 1%? There are a few brands I've looked at but I'm unsure of what these ingredients mean: Lily's Kitchen: fresh chicken (70% including meat, liver, heart, kidneys), linseed oil (0.5%), spirulina, minerals, vitamins, cassia gum. Hermann's Organic Meat Food: chicken (breast and throat), stock. Applaws Chicken Breast: 75% chicken, 1% rice, 24% stock. zoolove tuna: tuna (75%), fish stock (24%), rice (1%). Feringa Chicken with Pumpkin & Catnip: 95% chicken (20% muscle meat, 10% neck, 20% heart, 15% liver, 20% gizzards, 10% skin), 3.5% pumpkin, 0.5% catnip, 0.5% organic jerusalem artichoke, 0.1% spirulina. Grau Chicken & Veal: Meat & innards (min. 40% chicken, min 28% veal), meat stock, calcium carbonate. (Grau's meat is 50% muscle meat and 50% offal.) I can get Taste of the Wild here as well, but if something else I've listed here is better, I'd like to go with what is best. I realize I will probably have to try different foods before I find the one that is right for Miso, but if someone is familiar with the EU market and can steer me in the right direction I'd really appreciate it.
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Opinions on Redpaw X-series kibble? I'm thinking of switching back from raw since I can only store a weeks worth of food now that we have three dogs. It's pretty high calorie and high protein and it's about half the price of what I used to feed (Orijen & Acana)quote:Crude Protein: Min 32%
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Any reason Peformatrin isn't on the list for "premium" foods? Just curious if that's intentional or if maybe they're just not as well-distributed so it's not on everyone's radar. http://performatrin.com/performatrin-ultra/
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I got a dog unexpectedly. Normally the shelter around me has a huge waiting list for medium sized well behaved dogs so I wasn't expecting to get one for months but surprisingiy they called me a few days after I filled out my application. I went to Walmart because I was desparate for dog food and there is not even a Petsmart within 45 minutes of this godforsaken hick town. I expected to see just horrible foods there but it seems like big companies have actually caught the message that people want higher quality pet food. There were several brands with meat as the first ingredient, no corn, etc. I settled on Purina Beyond lamb food but there were even better options there. I'll probably still order something online but at least I'm not feeding her dog McDonalds for the next month. Last time I had a dog I distinctly remember you had to order food online or end up with Ol Roy. Not sure if anyone has noticed this but it's pretty encouraging. Edit: The ingredients are: quote:Lamb, Brewers Rice, Whole Barley, Chicken Meal (Natural Source of Glucosamine), Canola Meal, Beef Fat Preserved with Mixed-Tocopherols, Natural Liver Flavor, Dried Egg Product, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Dried Spinach, Calcium Carbonate, Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Niacin, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Copper Sulfate, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Calcium Iodate, Biotin, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (Source of Vitamin K Activity), Sodium Selenite. D-4281 Not *the best in the world* I'm sure but certainly not what I remember from a few years ago.
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One place worth checking out for higher quality foods is feed stores. YMMV of course but the ones near me sell premium kibbles for a very good price.
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I just brought my kitty back from the emergency vet and having surgery a couple days ago and we have to feed him Hills science diet s/d (or c/d they gave us a can of s/d but the prescription says c/d) or Royal Canin SO. I bought a bunch of the Royal Canin because he's actually eating it. After he gets better he will probably eat anything but I would just like to know which is nutritionally better if anyone can give any advice.
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Mathematics posted:I got a dog unexpectedly. Normally the shelter around me has a huge waiting list for medium sized well behaved dogs so I wasn't expecting to get one for months but surprisingiy they called me a few days after I filled out my application. Amazon has a couple of legit options as a Subscribe & Save. Free shipping and you get a few percent off. Tater gets Nature's Variety but there's other good ones there as well.
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I'm fed up with Wellness canned cat food. Their quality control is just not there. A lot of the time, the cans are a nice firm-ish pate. Other times it's a sloppy, smelly mess. When it's sloppy and smelly, one of my cats refuses to touch it while the other one eats a little then goes off to throw up in hard-to-reach places. It looks like whatever is wrong with their production is affecting at least two chicken-based flavors that I've tried: Chicken and Chicken & Herring. I've called Wellness and they've assured me that the food is perfectly safe to eat, but I'm skeptical and have thrown all the bad stuff out. They don't have any way to order specific batches, unfortunately. Normally, I've been able to just go to another store to pick up a different batch or flavor... but all that's in the area right now are the bad batches. And I've got 3 cans left and a super picky cat who refuses to eat anything but the good cans of Wellness (she'll run away and not eat all night if there's a speck of different food mixed in with her food or if our other cats are eating something different nearby). For anyone curious, the batches I've identified as bad are: Chicken - best by Nov 05 2017 7WCCS1 Chicken & Herring - best by Aug 24 2017 7WCHS1 Always be sure to shake your Wellness cans before buying them. If they slosh, they're no good.
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drat, that's gross. You might want to call them up about that.
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Anyone have a recommendation for a good canned cat food for two normal, healthy 1-year-old cats? Right now we feed Wellness Core kitten food and since they are getting to be not-kittens anymore, I'm trying to find a good adult food to switch them to. I'm kind of wary of getting more Wellness because of the issues just posted above - we have also noticed the kitten food being inconsistent, and the cats don't seem to like it much anymore since it varies so much. I checked out the premium cat foods in the OP but so many people like to post scary reviews about how X cat food totally murdered their cats or whatever and it makes me feel unsure about what to get.
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