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Screaming Idiot posted:Because altruism isn't a sickness. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_R._Price quote:George Robert Price (October 6, 1922 – January 6, 1975) was an American population geneticist.
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People with bipolar or schizoaffective disorder who are having manic episodes give their life savings away to the homeless all the time. It just doesn't get reported. Most psychotic behaviour is just weird and benign, a small percentage is altruistic, an even smaller percentage is violent, but it's only the last group that make headlines.
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Those crazy rescue ladies who fill their homes top to bottom with stray cats and who dedicate their lives to cat care are a good example of charitable crazies. Their motives are all good, but the reality is a house loaded with poo poo and fleas.
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'64? '65? You're babies. 1960 represent!  The Sea Peoples were thought to be Phoenicians for a very long time. Then Philistines. Now--well, it's pretty complex. http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/seapeople.htm That they sometimes brought household goods with them is eerily reminiscent of the Vikings, who also brought their homes along when they sailed for a new area. They clearly intended to colonize wherever they ended up.
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Well of course you know about the Sea Peoples, you were there.
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Khazar-khum posted:'64? '65? You're babies. I don't know how eerie it is. Large scale migrations with a military element have been a thing for ages, the Sea Peoples are just one of the earliest recorded examples we have. Look at the Germanic migrations into the Roman Empire; the migrations of Iranian and Turkic peoples into Northern India or Turkic peoples through Persia and into the Middle East as a whole, or the people we know as Aztecs originating from somewhere in the Southwestern USA and migrating into the Valley of Mexico. (Or heck, the colonization of the Americas by various Europeans and the Russian Far East by Russians)
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Khazar-khum posted:'64? '65? You're babies. So how was it to fight the Dinosaurs for Civil Rights? These recent crime posts remind me for the Investigation Discovery show "true Evil," some of you that
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AdjectiveNoun posted:I don't know how eerie it is. Large scale migrations with a military element have been a thing for ages, the Sea Peoples are just one of the earliest recorded examples we have. Look at the Germanic migrations into the Roman Empire; the migrations of Iranian and Turkic peoples into Northern India or Turkic peoples through Persia and into the Middle East as a whole, or the people we know as Aztecs originating from somewhere in the Southwestern USA and migrating into the Valley of Mexico. (Or heck, the colonization of the Americas by various Europeans and the Russian Far East by Russians) I posted it as weirdness because so much of the history of western civilization revolves around things that happened around the edges of the Mediterranean over the past four thousand years, yet you never hear anything about the Sea Peoples. And again, given the loads of how much we know about other groups in the same area at the same time, it's strange that we know so little about them. Speaking of early folks with boats, it's amazing that Madagascar is so close to the cradle of various hominids over the past several million years but was only settled by humans 2,500 years ago--who came from Indonesia.
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Avshalom posted:People with bipolar or schizoaffective disorder who are having manic episodes give their life savings away to the homeless all the time. It just doesn't get reported. Most psychotic behaviour is just weird and benign, a small percentage is altruistic, an even smaller percentage is violent, but it's only the last group that make headlines. There are also a lot more protections in place when it comes to people who might give altruistically even when it's a bad idea. Altruistic organ donation, for instance, is outlawed or strictly controlled in many parts of the world. The Jesus Christians made headlines after a documentary filmmaker and columnist documented their attempts to circumvent the regulations. They're fairly benign as cults go, but some of their practices are pretty hosed up. For instance, they had a habit of holding mock trials where the punishment, generally something along the lines of sixty lashes, would be carried out on volunteers, presumably for the sake of publicity and exhibitionism.
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The Toba Catastrophe theory. Also the supposed genetic bottleneck in humanity that was caused by the entire human population being reduced to just around 10,000 people about 70,000 years ago.
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Republican Vampire posted:There are also a lot more protections in place when it comes to people who might give altruistically even when it's a bad idea. Altruistic organ donation, for instance, is outlawed or strictly controlled in many parts of the world. The Jesus Christians made headlines after a documentary filmmaker and columnist documented their attempts to circumvent the regulations. Haha, I was handed a DVD by these guys a few years back. Their music videos are brilliantly terrible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W7V7eMLHzU
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Kanine posted:The Toba Catastrophe theory. Also the supposed genetic bottleneck in humanity that was caused by the entire human population being reduced to just around 10,000 people about 70,000 years ago. Most of the humans (and all of the other hominids in genus Homo) who moved out of Africa perished, which means that for most of Homo sapiens history, the Khoisan people of southern Africa have been the majority of the species even though there are only 100,000 of them today: http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2014/141204/ncomms6692/full/ncomms6692.html
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Rabbit Hill posted:It's funny how mental disorder never gives people the urge to, like, build orphanages by hand or feed every homeless person on their home block or something. Instead of having the urge to break into women's apartments to rape them in their sleep, how about breaking in to tuck them in and sing them lullabies? Why's it always got to be rape and torture, mayhem and murder? In addition to everything others have said, psychological diagnoses are based (almost?) entirely on self-reporting. There's no current way to look into someone's head and determine that they have a psychological illness. To be diagnosed, the patient needs to feel that their behavior is problematic and seek medical help for it. Of course, in the 'states they also need to be able to afford to do this. A mental disorder that causes altruism without ruining the quality of the patients life in other ways isn't a disorder. It's just their personality. This self-reporting model is muddied by the idea of post-hoc application of labels like criminally insane or what have you, but those are matters of law, not medicine.
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I'm amazed that I've never heard about this before. Crazy disappearance case from my hometown. No one's been able to identify the book found at the scene, and there's still no explanation for the bizarre objects that kept showing up in the forest. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orillia_Incident I'm definitely not sleeping tonight. 
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Steampunk iPhone posted:I'm amazed that I've never heard about this before. Crazy disappearance case from my hometown. No one's been able to identify the book found at the scene, and there's still no explanation for the bizarre objects that kept showing up in the forest. Yeah, slang terms for gay men keep me up at night, too. I think your link is screwed up..
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Steampunk iPhone posted:I'm amazed that I've never heard about this before. Crazy disappearance case from my hometown. No one's been able to identify the book found at the scene, and there's still no explanation for the bizarre objects that kept showing up in the forest. You accidentally your URL
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OR WAS IT? The only incident in Orillia seems to be a groping at the grocery store: http://www.orilliapacket.com/2014/09/24/police-seeking-info-on-incident Though I would prefer to believe that the mystery here is why user Steampunk iPhone had a list of gay slurs on his clipboard ready to paste.
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or how about you mind your own business, you... you uh E: Sausage jockey (U.K.)
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Steampunk iPhone posted:I'm amazed that I've never heard about this before. Crazy disappearance case from my hometown. No one's been able to identify the book found at the scene, and there's still no explanation for the bizarre objects that kept showing up in the forest. You won't be sleeping tonight, but apparently not for the reasons you claim
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moller posted:In addition to everything others have said, psychological diagnoses are based (almost?) entirely on self-reporting. There's no current way to look into someone's head and determine that they have a psychological illness. To be diagnosed, the patient needs to feel that their behavior is problematic and seek medical help for it. Of course, in the 'states they also need to be able to afford to do this. This is a recurring theme in House. Dr. House, on a few occasions, argues that selflessness and generosity are symptoms of a neurological condition, and such attributes can never occur naturally.
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shock.wav posted:This is a recurring theme in House. Please don't watch House for the science. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kin_selection Altruism is a very useful strategy because it helps pass on some of your genes, even if you will not be the one personally carrying it out. Your body is but a host for the genes to persist in the world. It's also worth considering that humans don't organise them into just families, but troupes, and clans, and tribes. A lone family is easy pickings, a whole village is a good survival strategy. So we even share our resources with those we are not related to, because what helps the entire society can help your family as well. Vampire bats can do similar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_altruism http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/280/1753/20122573
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Austin_yogurt_shop_murders The 1991 Austin yogurt shop murders refers to the deaths of four teenage girls in a yogurt shop in Austin, Texas, on December 6, 1991, after which the shop was set aflame. The initial investigation spanned nearly eight years. Two men initially confessed to the murders and were convicted, but they were released by 2009 due to lack of evidence. No new charges have been filed and local media coverage remains ongoing.
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Steampunk iPhone posted:I'm amazed that I've never heard about this before. Crazy disappearance case from my hometown. No one's been able to identify the book found at the scene, and there's still no explanation for the bizarre objects that kept showing up in the forest. This thread has spawned its own meta-mystery: I can't find any reference to what you're talking about other than a teen girl who went missing and a lady who went missing while walking her dog.
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RNG posted:This thread has spawned its own meta-mystery: I can't find any reference to what you're talking about other than a teen girl who went missing and a lady who went missing while walking her dog. Morons, your bus is leaving.
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Avshalom posted:People with bipolar or schizoaffective disorder who are having manic episodes give their life savings away to the homeless all the time. It just doesn't get reported. Most psychotic behaviour is just weird and benign, a small percentage is altruistic, an even smaller percentage is violent, but it's only the last group that make headlines. I remember a TV news story from when I was a kid where some young guy was giving away his inheritance by just giving fists full of cash to random strangers or to anyone who would ask. I don't remember any other details.
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Steampunk iPhone posted:I'm amazed that I've never heard about this before. Crazy disappearance case from my hometown. No one's been able to identify the book found at the scene, and there's still no explanation for the bizarre objects that kept showing up in the forest. I want this to be real and not a troll. It's always more fun when it's something local that a goon has firsthand knowledge of. Unless it's something like what goes on in my town, in which case the mystery isn't so fun. There's whole mountain of uncaught serial rapists that have been active in my small city since the 70s, none of whom have been caught. Doesn't seem like our police force has put a lot of effort into catching any of these guys though, certainly there isn't a lot of information on any of the cases, even the most recent ones.
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JibbaJabberwocky posted:I want this to be real and not a troll. It's always more fun when it's something local that a goon has firsthand knowledge of. Unless it's something like what goes on in my town, in which case the mystery isn't so fun. There's whole mountain of uncaught serial rapists that have been active in my small city since the 70s, none of whom have been caught. Doesn't seem like our police force has put a lot of effort into catching any of these guys though, certainly there isn't a lot of information on any of the cases, even the most recent ones. That sounds like something you should talk to your local media about. Where is it you mean?
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shock.wav posted:This is a recurring theme in House. This theory pretty much built Ayn Rand's career.
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Billmac posted:Dunno if this has been posted yet in this thread, it's sort of a different idea of ~unnerving~, but it did creep me out a little bit somehow? Don't worry--things will shake up again in the Water Wars.
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Billmac posted:Dunno if this has been posted yet in this thread, it's sort of a different idea of ~unnerving~, but it did creep me out a little bit somehow? Yeah, this was maybe plausible prior to the election of George Bush Jr. in the United States. Plus we're going to run out of zinc and probably aluminum in the next 30 years in addition to dying for somebody's water profits. Really, life on earth is just going to get more and more interesting.
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Billmac posted:Dunno if this has been posted yet in this thread, it's sort of a different idea of ~unnerving~, but it did creep me out a little bit somehow? Man, gently caress Fukuyma and his regressive neocon bullshit.
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Fukuyama didn't literally mean that history had come to a halt; the history he was referring to is the history of ideas. As far as political ideas are concerned he was more or less right. What new mass political ideologies have come along since the Soviet Union's dismantling?
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JibbaJabberwocky posted:I want this to be real and not a troll. It's always more fun when it's something local that a goon has firsthand knowledge of. Unless it's something like what goes on in my town, in which case the mystery isn't so fun. There's whole mountain of uncaught serial rapists that have been active in my small city since the 70s, none of whom have been caught. Doesn't seem like our police force has put a lot of effort into catching any of these guys though, certainly there isn't a lot of information on any of the cases, even the most recent ones. Quit leaving everyone hanging you chutney ferret
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cloudchamber posted:Fukuyama didn't literally mean that history had come to a halt; the history he was referring to is the history of ideas. As far as political ideas are concerned he was more or less right. What new mass political ideologies have come along since the Soviet Union's dismantling? But at the same time, isn't it massively egotistical and self-centred to assume that the current epoch is basically it? It seems a very strange argument to me, assuming total and prescient wisdom on our parts, almost akin to fortune-telling. You can't think of any way things could develop or change so QED, it won't? Apart from an implicit assumption about the rate of production of new political ideas and the evolution of current ones. Marx's ideas gestated for half a century before giving rise to a socialist state, and our current governments are quite different to their forms of a century ago.
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Aesop Poprock posted:Quit leaving everyone hanging you chutney ferret I'm sorry you guys, there wasn't a lot I could find. However I did try my best and russeled up some old news articles. Looks like I was unfair to the police, they did do some arresting in these cases. I live in a college town so there are a lot of young women to target. And not just a lot of women but a lot of really intoxicated women who make an easy target. We have more bars per capita than anywhere else in the country. My old town is serious about getting shitfaced. Here is a breakdown of our serial rapists from the 70's to 1996, some of the guys were caught but not all: http://onlineathens.com/stories/111900/new_1119000034.shtml Here's another article about our long history of serial rapes: http://onlineathens.com/stories/111900/new_1119000029.shtml This is part of the most recent string of rapes, a man posing as a taxi driver and picking up young women from downtown. Instead of taking them home, he kidnaps and rapes them. One of the ladies was dumped in a friend of mine's yard, out in the country, and had to call the police from their house. This guy has yet to be caught. 2007 Taxi rapes: http://www.redandblack.com/news/second-woman-abducted-by-man-in-white-van/article_5383c5b5-a612-5579-82cc-0a63c698bd29.html?TNNoMobile And then the guy they thought did it had an alibi. His alibi was assaulting another set of women elsewhere in town: http://onlineathens.com/stories/112807/madison_20071128022.shtml It happened again in 2010, in a different van. The question is, is it the same guy? http://onlineathens.com/stories/090610/new_704980803.shtml JibbaJabberwocky has a new favorite as of 15:22 on Jan 21, 2015 |
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cloudchamber posted:Fukuyama didn't literally mean that history had come to a halt; the history he was referring to is the history of ideas. As far as political ideas are concerned he was more or less right. What new mass political ideologies have come along since the Soviet Union's dismantling? It's been 20 years since then, what in the world are you (or he) talking about?
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