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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
##vote MC Eating Disorder

As the deadline is in four hours rather than just leave my single vote wasted in the dispersed 7 single voters will change it to one of the the other three I believe are scum that at least has another vote on it. MC voted Anidav after stating to other posters were scum to them (neither of which were Anidav, one of which is ironic sex tourist who I think is scum as well) and then ignoring it. Then they went on and on about Kommando before an interesting post:

MC Eating Disorder posted:

if anidav flips scum it will probably be LESS helpful because I doubt the scums strategy consisted of hoping anidav wouldn't get lynched almost immediately. If he flips town we can at least assume most of the people that didn't vote for him are also town.

Ok lets assume this is all correct, and in fact I concede there is a little merit to it. What does this mean when we take into account that Anidav is being lynched by both scum and town? Well it means that scum can vote against Anidav and then use that as evidence of their townieness (yeah I know, ironic coming from me the guy not voting for Anidav because a towniness argument). Its a roundabout argument for later days to validate yourself by just not being on the Anidav lynch to say "see guys I DIDN'T VOTE ANIDAV" but the difference here is rather than having a stated legit reason not to they're literally just doing it to appear more townie based off this post.

MC is scum.

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Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

Those On My Left posted:

incorrect. there'll probably be night actions to look into (who the scum kills at night, whether any other interesting stuff happens at night, eg a cop doing an investigation and sharing the results)

True. Just bummed that the magical circle of mafia isn't quite as magical. :sigh:

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Lid posted:

##vote MC Eating Disorder

As the deadline is in four hours rather than just leave my single vote wasted in the dispersed 7 single voters will change it to one of the the other three I believe are scum that at least has another vote on it. MC voted Anidav after stating to other posters were scum to them (neither of which were Anidav, one of which is ironic sex tourist who I think is scum as well) and then ignoring it. Then they went on and on about Kommando before an interesting post:


Ok lets assume this is all correct, and in fact I concede there is a little merit to it. What does this mean when we take into account that Anidav is being lynched by both scum and town? Well it means that scum can vote against Anidav and then use that as evidence of their townieness (yeah I know, ironic coming from me the guy not voting for Anidav because a towniness argument). Its a roundabout argument for later days to validate yourself by just not being on the Anidav lynch to say "see guys I DIDN'T VOTE ANIDAV" but the difference here is rather than having a stated legit reason not to they're literally just doing it to appear more townie based off this post.

MC is scum.

This was exactly Milky Moors strategy in the Greens game and it worked a charm.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Lid posted:

##vote MC Eating Disorder

As the deadline is in four hours rather than just leave my single vote wasted in the dispersed 7 single voters will change it to one of the the other three I believe are scum that at least has another vote on it. MC voted Anidav after stating to other posters were scum to them (neither of which were Anidav, one of which is ironic sex tourist who I think is scum as well) and then ignoring it. Then they went on and on about Kommando before an interesting post:


Ok lets assume this is all correct, and in fact I concede there is a little merit to it. What does this mean when we take into account that Anidav is being lynched by both scum and town? Well it means that scum can vote against Anidav and then use that as evidence of their townieness (yeah I know, ironic coming from me the guy not voting for Anidav because a towniness argument). Its a roundabout argument for later days to validate yourself by just not being on the Anidav lynch to say "see guys I DIDN'T VOTE ANIDAV" but the difference here is rather than having a stated legit reason not to they're literally just doing it to appear more townie based off this post.

MC is scum.

I should rephrase part of this " it means that scum can vote against Anidav and then use that as evidence of their townieness"

was meant to more read " it means that scum can vote for people other than Anidav and then use that as evidence of their townieness" and i used against in the worst possible way

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

Lid posted:

##vote MC Eating Disorder

As the deadline is in four hours rather than just leave my single vote wasted in the dispersed 7 single voters will change it to one of the the other three I believe are scum that at least has another vote on it. MC voted Anidav after stating to other posters were scum to them (neither of which were Anidav, one of which is ironic sex tourist who I think is scum as well) and then ignoring it. Then they went on and on about Kommando before an interesting post:


Ok lets assume this is all correct, and in fact I concede there is a little merit to it. What does this mean when we take into account that Anidav is being lynched by both scum and town? Well it means that scum can vote against Anidav and then use that as evidence of their townieness (yeah I know, ironic coming from me the guy not voting for Anidav because a towniness argument). Its a roundabout argument for later days to validate yourself by just not being on the Anidav lynch to say "see guys I DIDN'T VOTE ANIDAV" but the difference here is rather than having a stated legit reason not to they're literally just doing it to appear more townie based off this post.

MC is scum.

I had thought of this and concluded it's a wine in front of me deal. This is what bummed me out because I thought I'd had a brainwave and then realised it was pretty useless.

Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010

Lid posted:

##vote MC Eating Disorder

As the deadline is in four hours rather than just leave my single vote wasted in the dispersed 7 single voters will change it to one of the the other three I believe are scum that at least has another vote on it. MC voted Anidav after stating to other posters were scum to them (neither of which were Anidav, one of which is ironic sex tourist who I think is scum as well) and then ignoring it. Then they went on and on about Kommando before an interesting post:

MC Eating Disorder posted:

if anidav flips scum it will probably be LESS helpful because I doubt the scums strategy consisted of hoping anidav wouldn't get lynched almost immediately. If he flips town we can at least assume most of the people that didn't vote for him are also town.

Ok lets assume this is all correct, and in fact I concede there is a little merit to it. What does this mean when we take into account that Anidav is being lynched by both scum and town? Well it means that scum can vote against Anidav and then use that as evidence of their townieness (yeah I know, ironic coming from me the guy not voting for Anidav because a towniness argument). Its a roundabout argument for later days to validate yourself by just not being on the Anidav lynch to say "see guys I DIDN'T VOTE ANIDAV" but the difference here is rather than having a stated legit reason not to they're literally just doing it to appear more townie based off this post.

MC is scum.

There is actually something to this post. MCED said "if Anidav flips town we can at least assume most of the people that didn't vote for him are also town". Unless Anidav is part of a masonry, and we're trying to judge the alignment of other people who were in that masonry, this is just wrong.

If Anidav flips town, well, guess what? Every other townie out there (apart from those who might be in a masonry with him) will have had absolutely no way whatsoever to know whether Anidav was town or scum.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

ignoring the fact that milky was bussing Anidav, his scumpal.


wait, hang on.

quote:

Well it means that scum can vote against Anidav and then use that as evidence of their townieness (yeah I know, ironic coming from me the guy not voting for Anidav because a towniness argument). Its a roundabout argument for later days to validate yourself by just not being on the Anidav lynch to say "see guys I DIDN'T VOTE ANIDAV"

They vote for anidav to say they didnt vote for anidav?

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCdA_b5VeYo

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Tommofork posted:

I had thought of this and concluded it's a wine in front of me deal. This is what bummed me out because I thought I'd had a brainwave and then realised it was pretty useless.

It would be WIFOM if not for the fact he outright posted it as a reasoning. It was a validation tactic rather than a "well how do we know?"

Asphyxious
Jun 25, 2012

I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life.
Okay I'm looking at votefinder and SEX TOURIST I think the unvote in the same post as the milky vote cancelled it somehow, as you're still currently voting for Anidav.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Lid posted:

I should rephrase part of this " it means that scum can vote against Anidav and then use that as evidence of their townieness"

was meant to more read " it means that scum can vote for people other than Anidav and then use that as evidence of their townieness" and i used against in the worst possible way

Can we just all agree then, that if anyone's trying to prove they're not scum by saying "but look guys, I VOTED FOR ANIDAV" that we just point and laugh? Anyone who buys that as being useful data in any way whatsoever is making a bad case.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Kommando posted:

ignoring the fact that milky was bussing Anidav, his scumpal.


wait, hang on.


They vote for anidav to say they didnt vote for anidav?

They went off Anidav with the "I will vote for them but only to hammer oh the agony of it all that it must fall to me to swing the blade". Appearing too eager is scummy so better to appear to make even the most bare of arguments to look for well literally one other person to lynch (namely, they are looking at you).

The thing about "I will change back to hammer" unvotes is that if you are scum voting town THERE IS LITERALLY NO REASON TO UNVOTE. Because you know you have someone voting for them anyway who is just on a different person in the meantime. Its in effect a silent vote.

Ironic Sex Tourist
Jan 18, 2015

by XyloJW
I think I didn't really vote for milky BC I put spaces in there but just in case it's confused votegrindr:

##vote anidav

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'
May you find peace inside the Allspark.

##vote Anidav

The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

Ironic Sex Tourist posted:

I think I didn't really vote for milky BC I put spaces in there but just in case it's confused votegrindr:

##vote anidav

you gots to bold it

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Milky Moor posted:

May you find peace inside the Allspark.

##vote Anidav

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3ILTijc_gg

Ironic Sex Tourist
Jan 18, 2015

by XyloJW

Ironic Sex Tourist posted:

I think I didn't really vote for milky BC I put spaces in there but just in case it's confused votegrindr:

##vote anidav

Like, my intention was to make it look like I was voting for milky as an omgusasa joke but not actually vote for him, which it seems like happened

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Bifauxnen posted:

Can we just all agree then, that if anyone's trying to prove they're not scum by saying "but look guys, I VOTED FOR ANIDAV" that we just point and laugh? Anyone who buys that as being useful data in any way whatsoever is making a bad case.

oh, or also "but look guys, I DIDN'T VOTE FOR ANIDAV" :downs:

Ironic Sex Tourist
Jan 18, 2015

by XyloJW
Votefinder can we get a recount please

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Ironic Sex Tourist posted:

Votefinder can we get a recount please

I think Anidav is at 13, MC is at 2 and a whole lot of randoms are at 1.

Mafia stat: Tithin is also at 1, 1 post.

Ironic Sex Tourist
Jan 18, 2015

by XyloJW
I'm in an all cop town masonry with anidav and I'm still voting for him

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Doesn't the webpage for votefinder update automatically? http://votefinder.org/game/auspol-10#votecount

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


whoah, okay it's at 12 now,

##unvote

cause I wanna look through my notes soon as I get home and then post whatever sense I can make out of all this poo poo before the end of D1. I'll re-vote once I'm done with that.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

Ironic Sex Tourist posted:

I'm in an all cop town masonry with anidav and I'm still voting for him

You know, that's a pretty unbelievable lie.

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU5LMG3WFBw

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

Lid posted:

It would be WIFOM if not for the fact he outright posted it as a reasoning. It was a validation tactic rather than a "well how do we know?"

It's MC E D's first day on the job, it's not unreasonable that he's new, posted his working out, but hadn't taken it to the next logical step.

But mostly why the gently caress would a scum make a note of the tactic they're going to use to blend in? It's only effective if it's not outright stated and so only those who's figured it themsleves out are looking for it.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Ironic Sex Tourist posted:

I think I didn't really vote for milky BC I put spaces in there but just in case it's confused votegrindr:

##vote anidav

Gotta bold that vote man

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

i always get killed off early ebcause of my good and not bad play style

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak

Anidav posted:

You know, that's a pretty unbelievable lie.

Yeah, because it was a joke

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

Splode posted:

Yeah, because it was a joke

For a poster who holds a stupid grudge, you sure do like posting about nothing.

Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010

shut the gently caress up howard

Ironic Sex Tourist
Jan 18, 2015

by XyloJW

Splode posted:

Yeah, because it was a joke

Or was it!!?

Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010

i mean, anidav

shut the gently caress up anidav

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

Bifauxnen posted:

Can we just all agree then, that if anyone's trying to prove they're not scum by saying "but look guys, I VOTED FOR ANIDAV" that we just point and laugh? Anyone who buys that as being useful data in any way whatsoever is making a bad case.


Bifauxnen posted:

oh, or also "but look guys, I DIDN'T VOTE FOR ANIDAV" :downs:

This is how I think of it, thanks.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Tommofork posted:

It's MC E D's first day on the job, it's not unreasonable that he's new, posted his working out, but hadn't taken it to the next logical step.

But mostly why the gently caress would a scum make a note of the tactic they're going to use to blend in? It's only effective if it's not outright stated and so only those who's figured it themsleves out are looking for it.

Because people post whats going through their head and what was going through MC's head was "hmmmm Anidav will flip town, so if I vote for someone else if I plant the seed that those who didn't vote Anidav are town I confirm myself :neckbeard:"

Like you said it's their first day on the job and they may not have thought this through. This however is, while the biggest part, does not change the other elements of MC being scummy. Plus MC has gotten reaaaaaaaal quiet since his name started coming up, even though he only has two votes others have showed agreement with the logic so may be trying to keep his head down.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
But TOML, you were scum last game, you should be happy about me loving up, not angry. Unless you're trying to fit in with the current snowball?

Ironic Sex Tourist
Jan 18, 2015

by XyloJW

Bifauxnen posted:

whoah, okay it's at 12 now,

##unvote

cause I wanna look through my notes soon as I get home and then post whatever sense I can make out of all this poo poo before the end of D1. I'll re-vote once I'm done with that.

Hey bif aren't you famous for being the poster who's all like

I will be the hammer for anyone, any time, just give me someone to lynch

?

Seagull
Oct 9, 2012

give me a chip
##unvote

Gotta be ready, gotta grease up my voting finger.

Ironic Sex Tourist
Jan 18, 2015

by XyloJW

Anidav posted:

But TOML, you were scum last game, you should be happy about me loving up, not angry. Unless you're trying to fit in with the current snowball?

You're so dumb

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Seagull
Oct 9, 2012

give me a chip

Ironic Sex Tourist posted:

Hey bif aren't you famous for being the poster who's all like

I will be the hammer for anyone, any time, just give me someone to lynch

?

Everyone is because blindly lynching is fun.

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