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Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Kennel posted:

I might actually pay for Nethack with ASCII graphics and a good set of Steam Achievements. :smith:

Is that possible, though? I'd imagine that NetHack's license or whatever would prevent it from being put on Steam.

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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Kennel posted:

I might actually pay for Nethack with ASCII graphics and a good set of Steam Achievements. :smith:
Why not just buy TOME?

Im_Special
Jan 2, 2011

Look At This!!! WOW!
It's F*cking Nothing.

Heran Bago posted:

The devs also made a strategy guide for it, the PDF of which is free.
You forgot to mention it's a seven hundred forty-seven page strategy guide. :spergin: Kinda nuts for a RPGmaker game.
http://whitegiantrpg.com/download/

vmdvr
Aug 15, 2004
Watch out for Snakes!
So no one's mentioned it, but this collection
http://store.steampowered.com/sub/47304/
is on sale for cheap, and includes the latest reissue of Space Rangers 2 (A War Apart), which is a super awesome game.
It also includes a few other much crappier games.
So if you don't own the latest Space Rangers 2, now is the time.

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Ghostlight posted:

Why not just buy TOME?
Yeah, it's up for $3 here in a bundle even https://www.indiegala.com/friday

how me a frog
Feb 6, 2014

Evil Mastermind posted:

Is that possible, though? I'd imagine that NetHack's license or whatever would prevent it from being put on Steam.

As I understand it you could absolutely put it on steam it would just have to be free. But also, why on earth would you?

404notfound
Mar 5, 2006

stop staring at me

Play on nethack.alt.org, watch players and send them disparaging mails erryday

SolidSnakesBandana
Jul 1, 2007

Infinite ammo

ImPureAwesome posted:

Where's dungeon crawl I need steam dungeon crawl

Hmmm this totally free game seems fun, but since it's not on Steam I refuse to even try it.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

how me a frog posted:

As I understand it you could absolutely put it on steam it would just have to be free. But also, why on earth would you?

Achievements and workshop, duh.

e: It's weird that Vulture's Eye is $3 now that I think about it, because the original was free.

Threep
Apr 1, 2006

It's kind of a long story.

Evil Mastermind posted:

Achievements and workshop, duh.

e: It's weird that Vulture's Eye is $3 now that I think about it, because the original was free.

Developers posted:

Well, actually sadly the answer is more complicated. Once the game was greenlit we found out that unless we charged something up front, or sold items "in game" we would not be allowed to use certain steam features (this is our first game on steam, and the first time we gained access to the publisher backend). So, not ever wanting to have "in game purchases" we decided on a very very low initial cost, but then letting us leverage the cool stuff like Trading Cards & Cloud Saves (even the "Community Edition" / what was the free edition) will cloud save your characters and bones).

However! The source code will remain free and open source from our website, but the binary build on steam and using the steam eco-system has to have have a small price tag ( $2.99 to be exact ). We tried to keep this as low as possible & monies received through this will be used to improve the Community Edition as well. Keep in mind this game is not like others in the sense that once released and had a few patches "that's it". It will get updates, feature additions, upgrades when (if) a new version of NetHack comes out and will be constantly updated. I don't think $2.99 is by any means a lot to ask. This was a very difficult decision for us to make, especially considering we advertised as "free to play" but we really wanted to be able to use all the cool steam stuff if we're going to be on steam.

SolidSnakesBandana
Jul 1, 2007

Infinite ammo
I just recently started Saints Row: Gat Out Of Hell and would like some buddies to co-op with. Find me at http://steamcommunity.com/id/solidsnakesbandana/

ImPureAwesome
Sep 6, 2007

the king of the beach

SolidSnakesBandana posted:

Hmmm this totally free game seems fun, but since it's not on Steam I refuse to even try it.

Huh? Are you talking about crawl? I've three runed dungeon crawl and enjoy it immensely, it's just everything is more convenient on steam

sauer kraut
Oct 2, 2004

vmdvr posted:

So no one's mentioned it, but this collection
http://store.steampowered.com/sub/47304/
is on sale for cheap, and includes the latest reissue of Space Rangers 2 (A War Apart), which is a super awesome game.
It also includes a few other much crappier games.
So if you don't own the latest Space Rangers 2, now is the time.

That is.. some Russian value tsar bomba. Lots of funky, endearing 1C games on sale lately, I haven't even installed a Kings Bounty yet :ussr:
Thanks for sharing.

doctor 7
Oct 10, 2003

In the grim darkness of the future there is only Oakley.

Couple of free Steam keys

Sang-Froid: Tales of Werewolves Steam Key: MDY7L-IR0W9-VGWRA
Fly'N Steam Key: XA4Y9-6MRM5-H4ITK

Ikari Worrier
Jul 23, 2004


Dinosaur Gum

doctor 7 posted:

Couple of free Steam keys

Sang-Froid: Tales of Werewolves Steam Key: MDY7L-IR0W9-VGWRA

Thanks! I've been thinking about this game off and on for a while.

InfinityComplex
Feb 5, 2011

Nothing better than swinging around a little girl like a flail.

doctor 7 posted:

Couple of free Steam keys

Fly'N Steam Key: XA4Y9-6MRM5-H4ITK

I took this. Thanks.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

sauer kraut posted:

That is.. some Russian value tsar bomba. Lots of funky, endearing 1C games on sale lately, I haven't even installed a Kings Bounty yet :ussr:
Thanks for sharing.

YOu definitely should, King's Bounty is like wonderful Russian crack and it is very good.

Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!

ImPureAwesome posted:

Huh? Are you talking about crawl? I've three runed dungeon crawl and enjoy it immensely, it's just everything is more convenient on steam

?

WarLocke
Jun 6, 2004

You are being watched. :allears:

vmdvr posted:

So no one's mentioned it, but this collection
http://store.steampowered.com/sub/47304/
is on sale for cheap, and includes the latest reissue of Space Rangers 2 (A War Apart), which is a super awesome game.
It also includes a few other much crappier games.
So if you don't own the latest Space Rangers 2, now is the time.

Motherfucker, I sprung for Space Rangers a couple weeks back.

How janky are the Star Wolves games?

moller
Jan 10, 2007

Swan stole my music and framed me!

Kennel posted:

I might actually pay for Nethack with ASCII graphics and a good set of Steam Achievements. :smith:

alt.org or it didn't happen.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS
I looked at that 1C Bundle and uh, I sure thought Star Wolves 3 was pretty bad. I couldn't imagine playing the prequels, I can only assume they're even rougher. Both of those UFO games are pretty fuckin wacky as well, Jade Star demonstrated that well enough. Is Space Rangers really that good?

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Psion posted:

I looked at that 1C Bundle and uh, I sure thought Star Wolves 3 was pretty bad. I couldn't imagine playing the prequels, I can only assume they're even rougher. Both of those UFO games are pretty fuckin wacky as well, Jade Star demonstrated that well enough. Is Space Rangers really that good?

Yes.

Albinator
Mar 31, 2010

Psion posted:

I looked at that 1C Bundle and uh, I sure thought Star Wolves 3 was pretty bad. I couldn't imagine playing the prequels, I can only assume they're even rougher. Both of those UFO games are pretty fuckin wacky as well, Jade Star demonstrated that well enough. Is Space Rangers really that good?

Absolutely.

Rookersh
Aug 19, 2010

Psion posted:

I looked at that 1C Bundle and uh, I sure thought Star Wolves 3 was pretty bad. I couldn't imagine playing the prequels, I can only assume they're even rougher. Both of those UFO games are pretty fuckin wacky as well, Jade Star demonstrated that well enough. Is Space Rangers really that good?

Star Wolves 1 is actually incredible. 2 and 3 are nowhere near as good ( 2 or 3, I can't remember which )/actually really bad ( the other one ).

And then yes, Space Rangers is the best.

Red Mundus
Oct 22, 2010
Wait if I just want space rangers I have to pay $16 BUT if I buy the whole pack it's $7? What? :psyduck:

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money
So "Rogue-like" games on steam are a horribly mixed bunch. I loving love FTL and Binding of Isaac. Even when I lose in those games it rarely feels flat out unfair, in the case of FTL usually it was just a bad choice or in isaac I just got hit too much. When I win, it feels fun because I beat a hard game. Liking these I tend to consider suggestions for rogue-likes when people compare them to those two which has led to me buying a lot of games that are not good. Maybe I'm wrong for assuming otherwise, but apparently "rogue-like" to most people just means flat out unfair because most of the ones on steam that I've played just sort of flip you off and can be unwinnable from the get-go. Maybe I'm just bad at those games in particular, but it never felt like I could have done anything different in the situations I was in and when I'm dying in the first stage because the game gave me nothing but healing items and I couldn't even fight back against enemies. It just feels hosed up.

FZeroRacer
Apr 8, 2009

Nuebot posted:

So "Rogue-like" games on steam are a horribly mixed bunch. I loving love FTL and Binding of Isaac. Even when I lose in those games it rarely feels flat out unfair, in the case of FTL usually it was just a bad choice or in isaac I just got hit too much. When I win, it feels fun because I beat a hard game. Liking these I tend to consider suggestions for rogue-likes when people compare them to those two which has led to me buying a lot of games that are not good. Maybe I'm wrong for assuming otherwise, but apparently "rogue-like" to most people just means flat out unfair because most of the ones on steam that I've played just sort of flip you off and can be unwinnable from the get-go. Maybe I'm just bad at those games in particular, but it never felt like I could have done anything different in the situations I was in and when I'm dying in the first stage because the game gave me nothing but healing items and I couldn't even fight back against enemies. It just feels hosed up.

FTL is exactly that sort of middle-finger roguelike though because a lot of the game especially on harder difficulties revolves around hoping you don't get a bad event early game or you manage to get the right combination of weapons.

Drakes
Jul 18, 2007

Why my bullets no hit?

Pierson posted:

Marvel Heroes has a little of that old D2 flavour as well because to get gear you basically run the same corridor+boss over and over for that perfect drop, rather than something interesting like D3 that has escalation and bigger numbers and is just more fun generally. There's a big raid you run once a week and some smaller oneshots and a whole bunch of other stuff that disguises it but you see a LOT of certain bosses (hi Kurse, Taskmaster). There's a lot I love about MH but it needs something like the D3 rifts/PoH maps.


Really all we need right now is for any current aRPG to grab the best parts of other aRPGs and craft them into the perfect aRPG forever and ever.

MH isn't a very deep and interesting but its alright on poo poo to collect. Christ that game has a monstrous variety of tiny things to farm up. Itemization is that games weakest point compared to D3/PoE where various uniques can drastically change how a character build. Production quality on the the game is alright, and it does offer some spectacle.

But it's sorta a game I pop back on every 3-6 months to check out what changes have piled over time.

Stumpus Maximus
Dec 15, 2007

Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.

Kennel posted:

I might actually pay for Nethack with ASCII graphics and a good set of Steam Achievements. :smith:

I'm with you. I've literally been playing that game since 1987 (and Hack before that). I'll check it out on Steam, but... I just can't handle the non-ASCII dungeon.

Princey
Mar 22, 2013

Nuebot posted:

So "Rogue-like" games on steam are a horribly mixed bunch. I loving love FTL and Binding of Isaac. Even when I lose in those games it rarely feels flat out unfair, in the case of FTL usually it was just a bad choice or in isaac I just got hit too much. When I win, it feels fun because I beat a hard game. Liking these I tend to consider suggestions for rogue-likes when people compare them to those two which has led to me buying a lot of games that are not good. Maybe I'm wrong for assuming otherwise, but apparently "rogue-like" to most people just means flat out unfair because most of the ones on steam that I've played just sort of flip you off and can be unwinnable from the get-go. Maybe I'm just bad at those games in particular, but it never felt like I could have done anything different in the situations I was in and when I'm dying in the first stage because the game gave me nothing but healing items and I couldn't even fight back against enemies. It just feels hosed up.

What ones have you tried that you didn't like?

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Princey posted:

What ones have you tried that you didn't like?

Abe's Oddysey, Call of Juarez: Gunslinger, and Grey Goo.

sauer kraut
Oct 2, 2004

Red Mundus posted:

Wait if I just want space rangers I have to pay $16 BUT if I buy the whole pack it's $7? What? :psyduck:

The pack bears the terrible opportunity cost of cluttering your Steam library with questionable Russian games from the mid-2000's.

That's why I took a second look and uh, there is an Asteroid 2D shooter part in Space Rangers? Can you skip/ignore that? Also why would they do that, is trading, command&conquer and text adventures not enough?

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

FZeroRacer posted:

FTL is exactly that sort of middle-finger roguelike though because a lot of the game especially on harder difficulties revolves around hoping you don't get a bad event early game or you manage to get the right combination of weapons.

Yeah but how it feels is a bigger part of that. I always feel like I could have avoided whatever killed me if I'd picked another path, or if I'd chosen another star I might have gotten a new gun. It doesn't feel, to me at least, that the game is stacked completely against the player just for that reason alone.


Princey posted:

What ones have you tried that you didn't like?

Most recently was "Coin Crypt" which someone talked up a bunch in one of the PYF topics and it sounded pretty cool. But the example of getting nothing but healing items was straight from this game, there were so many situations where before I'd even finished the first area I had no way to deal with enemies because the game just didn't give me any opportunity to get any offensive coins.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

sauer kraut posted:

The pack bears the terrible opportunity cost of cluttering your Steam library with questionable Russian games from the mid-2000's.
You should have seen the old Gamersgate's "80+ 1C games for $20" offer.

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


Nuebot posted:

Most recently was "Coin Crypt" which someone talked up a bunch in one of the PYF topics and it sounded pretty cool. But the example of getting nothing but healing items was straight from this game, there were so many situations where before I'd even finished the first area I had no way to deal with enemies because the game just didn't give me any opportunity to get any offensive coins.

all genres have good games and bad games. sorry you bought one you didnt like.

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

i'm the heckin best
yeah
yeah
yeah
frig all the rest

Nuebot posted:

So "Rogue-like" games on steam are a horribly mixed bunch. I loving love FTL and Binding of Isaac. Even when I lose in those games it rarely feels flat out unfair, in the case of FTL usually it was just a bad choice or in isaac I just got hit too much. When I win, it feels fun because I beat a hard game. Liking these I tend to consider suggestions for rogue-likes when people compare them to those two which has led to me buying a lot of games that are not good. Maybe I'm wrong for assuming otherwise, but apparently "rogue-like" to most people just means flat out unfair because most of the ones on steam that I've played just sort of flip you off and can be unwinnable from the get-go. Maybe I'm just bad at those games in particular, but it never felt like I could have done anything different in the situations I was in and when I'm dying in the first stage because the game gave me nothing but healing items and I couldn't even fight back against enemies. It just feels hosed up.

Darkest motherfucking Dungeon.


ImPureAwesome posted:

Where's dungeon crawl I need steam dungeon crawl

Darkest motherfucking Dungeon.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Firstborn posted:

Darkest motherfucking Dungeon.


Darkest motherfucking Dungeon.

Very nice art style, keeping my eye on it since it's apparently not out yet.

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Nuebot posted:

Very nice art style, keeping my eye on it since it's apparently not out yet.

It is tomorrow!

Cialis Railman
Apr 20, 2007

Galaga Galaxian posted:

It is tomorrow!

Between that and Apotheon, a lot of good poo poo's coming out tomorrow.

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markgreyam
Mar 10, 2008

Talk to the mittens.

SelenicMartian posted:

You should have seen the old Gamersgate's "80+ 1C games for $20" offer.

It's still there but it's 90% off, down to $90. I know I got it when it was $20. Pretty much/absolutely none of the games that have subsequently appeared on Steam have been given Steam keys though.

http://www.gamersgate.com/DDB-1CBIGPACK/1c-complete-pack-bundle

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