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Those On My Left posted:This is actually a good point. There were many good points in there. Also he hit me right in my sweet spot so I'm more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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AGH. but then you keep doing THIS. like the god drat golf clap, its a play designed to invoke solidarity in a game where such a thing cannot exist!
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Feb 12, 2015 03:08
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Asphyxious posted:I really don't think there's a risk of an early lynch. Take your time and feel free to keep posting. The more data I have the more I can work with, and if you're town you have literally nothing to fear. The two people voting for you are both seen as suss by many, so who knows! Scum trying to lead the vote away from Tithin? Could be. I will have to wait till I get home - but it's mainly the fact that beet has been pretty aggressive (when he used to be such a chill guy) and has had to corrected too many times. Especially by TOML.
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Well now that FS has shown up, he sounds like he's making way more sense than Tithin. Has this affected your predictions, Gaspy? I'm up for moving my vote to Tithin since his stuff about all you 3 being all in cahoots, even the cop, was just impossible. btw, I thought the "knowing about women" was some kind of ex joke. 
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Bifauxnen posted:Well now that FS has shown up, he sounds like he's making way more sense than Tithin. Has this affected your predictions, Gaspy? I'm up for moving my vote to Tithin since his stuff about all you 3 being all in cahoots, even the cop, was just impossible. Tithin is having a mini meltdown IMO.
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Bifauxnen posted:Well now that FS has shown up, he sounds like he's making way more sense than Tithin. Has this affected your predictions, Gaspy? I'm up for moving my vote to Tithin since his stuff about all you 3 being all in cahoots, even the cop, was just impossible. I'm honestly suspicious of any and all actions you take Bif so do as you like. Tithin has had two modes this game, "completely wrong", and now apparently "utterly useless" so again, if town, it's sad but not the end of the world. His defense has been very scummy though, grasping at straws, wild situations, and going all "oh I don't even care, not going to try" along with parroting a lot of milky's phrases. So yeah, he could very well be scum, hoping to hit the same notes and play upon the potential newfound mercy of the players.
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Feb 12, 2015 03:15
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Asphyxious posted:AGH. but then you keep doing THIS. Ahh - I thought you were worried about me being "florid" and "prolix" The thing is though I am town and I know TOML is town - so I do feel he is on my side 
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black_tangled posted:Tithin is having a mini meltdown IMO. Yeah this, FS has the luxury of time and distance, Tithin kind of got slapped in the face with the whole thing AND is having a poo poo time of things at the moment, so it could be less "faux milky play" and more "actual milky gently caress this". That being said, that is EXACTLY the kind of doubt you'd want to play upon as scum.
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black_tangled posted:Tithin is having a mini meltdown IMO. I think Tithin's in a bad place and it's affecting his play, I find it difficult to read too much into his posts to be honest.
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Feb 12, 2015 03:16
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Freudian Slip posted:Ahh - I thought you were worried about me being "florid" and "prolix" I'm worried about a lot of things with you FS but the main thing I'm rankled up about is I have no sources of data for you beyond this game so I'm having to scrutinise you heavily to get pretty well anything.
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Feb 12, 2015 03:18
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Those On My Left posted:I think Tithin's in a bad place and it's affecting his play, I find it difficult to read too much into his posts to be honest. yeop.
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Feb 12, 2015 03:19
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There is no sure bet scum. We have a lot of potential leads but nothing solid. If anyone wants to make claims one way or another this is the day to do it.
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Feb 12, 2015 03:20
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Freudian Slip posted:Ahh - I thought you were worried about me being "florid" and "prolix"
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While I appreciate the thought, I really don't need or want any sympathy right now, because I'm liable to blow up. Yeah, I'm having a lovely day but I genuinely think he's scum. If you dudes think I'm scum for pushing it so hard, that's fine, this is the hill I'm willing to die on because I think it's extremely unlikely that the game setup would allow for a princess.
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Feb 12, 2015 03:20
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Avshalom posted:wait, how do you know toml is town? did you miss the copclaim entirely? WFD said he investigated TOML and Gaspy and got town for both.
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Feb 12, 2015 03:22
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tithin posted:If you dudes think I'm scum for pushing it so hard, that's fine, this is the hill I'm willing to die on because I think it's extremely unlikely that the game setup would allow for a princess. I still think it's more likely he's a princess. If he weren't counselling me so hard against voting for Beet that's what I'd be doing.
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Feb 12, 2015 03:22
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tithin posted:While I appreciate the thought, I really don't need or want any sympathy right now, because I'm liable to blow up. Look okay, but think. Assume, for a moment that it IS so. Then who? Who else? It's not me. I'm princess town. A lot of my confidence stemmed from having a lynch-resistant role as well as my fearsome intellect, if you can look around your misguided preconceptions then who's next?? Give us some place to look.
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Feb 12, 2015 03:23
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There was some theorizing about WFD maybe being a naive cop, but FS has pointed out this would be kind of silly to have a godfather then, so he was presumably going off that data.
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Feb 12, 2015 03:23
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Bifauxnen posted:did you miss the copclaim entirely? WFD said he investigated TOML and Gaspy and got town for both.
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Feb 12, 2015 03:24
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Avshalom posted:but how do you know wfd is telling the truth? Because no one else has come out and said "That's bullshit, you're not a cop, I'm the cop." There pretty much has to be a cop in this game because there's a Godfather - a class that is meaningless without a cop.
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Feb 12, 2015 03:25
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Well if WFD is lying about being a cop, anyone else who really is a cop could come and counterclaim. This would force a 1-on-1 situation where one of them has to be lying scum. Not a smart idea for scum to bring this situation on themselves when it would be so quickly proven wrong by one of them getting lynched. We pretty much have to have 1 town cop cause there's a godfather. If WFD is town but lying about his results, that is really counterproductive and I can't see any reason for it.
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Feb 12, 2015 03:26
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Avshalom posted:but how do you know wfd is telling the truth? We've already been over this; why are you creating circular conversation instead of focusing on progress?
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Feb 12, 2015 03:27
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Asphyxious posted:We've already been over this; why are you creating circular conversation instead of focusing on progress? Thoughts about leading a train on Avs instead? I'm leaving for the airport in half an hour. Posting will be spotty after that.
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Feb 12, 2015 03:28
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Asphyxious posted:Look okay, but think. Assume, for a moment that it IS so. Then who? Who else? It's not me. I'm princess town. A lot of my confidence stemmed from having a lynch-resistant role as well as my fearsome intellect, if you can look around your misguided preconceptions then who's next?? Give us some place to look. tithin posted:
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Feb 12, 2015 03:29
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Avshalom posted:but how do you know wfd is telling the truth? I tried my best to imply that I had some sort of data. I kept calling out the noisy posters but never said anything about TOML because after N1 I knew he was town. I hadn't collected anything super worthwhile so didn't want to claim and then rely on a doctor I didn't even know we had. I wanted to try and do the same thing today with Asphyxious but things started getting carried away.
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Feb 12, 2015 03:29
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Those On My Left posted:Thoughts about leading a train on Avs instead? Depends. We let Tithin live, whats he doing tomorrow? More of the same? Just going to keep giving up/doing nothing etc? I think a train on Avs at some stage is a pretty solid idea, but I have a scratch in the back of my head that either Tithin or Bif is the key mafia player and if it IS tith, now is the time to do it.
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Feb 12, 2015 03:30
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That does it for me. If Tithin flipped town, I'd go hell for leather on Bif.
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Asphyxious posted:Depends. We let Tithin live, whats he doing tomorrow? More of the same? Just going to keep giving up/doing nothing etc? You can ask that same question about any of these people though: Asphyxious posted:Depends. We let Asphyxious posted:Depends. We let Lynching a player on the basis of "well they're not giving us anything" is what we did to Milky, and look how well that worked out. One way or another tomorrow will be a new day with new information. There'll be a new nightkill (probably What's For Dinner) and potentially a new investigation result.
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i am straight-up going to accuse wfd and gaspy of being in cahoots here. i think they're both scum i think they either arranged for tirade to be turbo-lynched on the first day to get the shade off them or because he was genuinely being a pretty lovely scum player (roleplaying even after it was obvious it was going to get him lynched) who would do them more harm than good in the long run even though he was a godfather and i think they decided on gaspy's ridiculous princess claim to stop him from getting lynched, while also preventing people from questioning why the scum weren't killing him despite his major role in the tirade lynching (because we can all see it would be far more valuable to scum to leave him alive and let him stir the other townspeople up into a frenzy with his insufferable smugposting until they all lynch each other, or finally get sick of him, lynch him anyway, and give scum two night moves) and wfd roleclaimed cop to get the heat off him absolutely nobody is suss on toml, including me, so wfd picked toml as a surefire town to back up his cop claim. why would he even investigate toml on the first night? why not gaspy or beet or bif or, like, anybody else? cops don't go around investigating people they're 99% sure are innocent. so by saying "hey i looked at toml and he's town", he's instantly got toml on side and toml is one of the best debaters in the game if wfd and gaspy need backup somewhere down the line seriously, you people
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Feb 12, 2015 03:32
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##vote Asphyxious and may the good lord judge me if i'm wrong
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Feb 12, 2015 03:33
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Avshalom posted:i am straight-up going to accuse wfd and gaspy of being in cahoots here. Um weren't people a bit suss on TOML after he lead the charge on Milky? And both bif and beet have routinely flogged him down a bit. I think you're scum. I'm comfortable saying that now.
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Avshalom posted:i am straight-up going to accuse wfd and gaspy of being in cahoots here. The biggest problem you have here is this: If WFD isn't actually the cop, who is? If Gaspy is mafia, I doubt WFD is also mafia. Much more likely WFD's investigation got busdriven.
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Asphyxious posted:Um weren't people a bit suss on TOML after he lead the charge on Milky? Surprisingly, no, not really. I don't think I copped any flak for that. Although it is a bit odd to say that no one is suss on TOML - up until today I've appeared on people's scum lists pretty regularly.
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Feb 12, 2015 03:35
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Feb 12, 2015 03:36
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Those On My Left posted:Surprisingly, no, not really. I don't think I copped any flak for that. Yeap. Intentionally flawed reasoning.
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Asphyxious posted:... Asphyxious posted:That does it for me. If Tithin flipped town, I'd go hell for leather on Bif. But, if Tithin's not playing an aggressive game, and it's gotta be one or the other, why wouldn't you go Bif? Bif's still playing an active, engaged game and could easily put together a pretty good argument on lynching somebody. The other person that's suddenly disappeared under the same guise is beet, and I'd really like to know why you aren't focusing on him as well.
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whats for dinner posted:But, if Tithin's not playing an aggressive game, and it's gotta be one or the other, why wouldn't you go Bif? Bif's still playing an active, engaged game and could easily put together a pretty good argument on lynching somebody. I'm getting increasingly suspicious that your investigation of Asphyxious was busdriven.
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i have no idea who the cop is. there's been a few people who are far quieter than usual, it could be any of those. but it's highly unlikely that one of them would claim unless it was absolutely necessary - they're probably laying low to see what happens today, and if it looks like gaspy's trying to get a train started tomorrow, they'll step up and confess and take their nightkill like an abbott
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whats for dinner posted:But, if Tithin's not playing an aggressive game, and it's gotta be one or the other, why wouldn't you go Bif? Bif's still playing an active, engaged game and could easily put together a pretty good argument on lynching somebody. Because if Bif IS town thats a hell of a loving blow. I mean maybe they're both scum but something tells me otherwise. Beet I have a tonne of reasons for thinking he's town, a lot of whats happened lines up with metadata as well as what I know of him as a person, as well as what's been happening in each day AS WELL AS etc etc. It's not "good mafia" but unless Beet has tightened his scum game dramatically in what, 1 day, he's probably town. Time for the sig again.
Seagull posted:I choose to believe Asphyxious is just really dumb. G-Spot Run posted:did you also hate it when gaspy said the same thing with more words?
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