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Cojawfee posted:Ron Dennis thinks he deserves lots of money for a title sponsor because Johnnie Walker forgot to turn off their allotment to Mclaren. autosport forums are literally having a more intelligent discussion about this. consider that for a moment.
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Human Grand Prix posted:What happened to Mayer? Sold his shares in the eighties.
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Human Grand Prix posted:What happened to Mayer? He ran his own Indycar team after he cashed in his McLaren shares, managed the Beatrice Haas team in F1 for the couple of years that ran for before he as involved with Penske pretty much up until he died a few years ago.
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Feb 12, 2015 21:13
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McLaren's sponsors will vanish in the wind while their poor results continue and Ron Dennis will die alone.
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spyker didn't die they just went to that quantum bookshelf thing in interstellar ... .-.. --- .-- --- .-. .- -. --. . -.-. .- .-.
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Uncle Jam posted:Car Sport Rejects This is sad. Someone let me know the new site when it happens. I've been lurking there since 2008. Mainly posted in the paul stoddart forum on race weekends. Didn't really browse or post much off season, too much shoe spam. Fo3 fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Feb 12, 2015 |
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Feb 12, 2015 21:37
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I liked F1 Rejects because they were like the only site that acknolwdged how insanely lucky Vettel was to finish third at Abu Dhabi 2012.
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Feb 12, 2015 21:41
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I liked the site owners and writers. Mario was pretty good too. Hated the teen drama about other poo poo and the fantasy crap too.
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Feb 12, 2015 21:48
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I'm pretty new to F1. Can someone explain the raging Ron Dennis hate to me?
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Feb 12, 2015 22:10
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With tobacco money he bought out mclaren and turned it into what it is today.
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Feb 12, 2015 22:20
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Fo3 posted:With tobacco money he bought out mclaren and turned it into what it is today. And the last time they did anything of note is when senna was driving the MP4?
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Feb 12, 2015 22:26
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McLaren published a list of their 50 'most significant drivers' and put Denny Hulme at like 12th - that's like putting Graham Hill outside a top ten of 'most significant Lotus drivers'. That's why I hate him anyway.
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Feb 12, 2015 22:28
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Norns posted:And the last time they did anything of note is when senna was driving the MP4? They had Adrian Newey for like a decade and won one (1) WCC. Pathetic team.
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Norns posted:And the last time they did anything of note is when senna was driving the MP4? Getting caught cheating and losing a lot of money after winning the WCC was pretty notable.
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He's certainly no mateshits. E: Butt Wizard posted:McLaren published a list of their 50 'most significant drivers' and put Denny Hulme at like 12th Fo3 fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Feb 12, 2015 |
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Fo3 posted:This is sad. Someone let me know the new site when it happens. I've been waiting for the drat AGS, Zakspeed, and Osella profiles for 12 years.
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Feb 12, 2015 22:32
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Norns posted:And the last time they did anything of note is when senna was driving the MP4? The more I think about it the MP4/2 and MP4/4-5-6 must have been flukes.
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Human Grand Prix posted:I've been waiting for the drat AGS, Zakspeed, and Osella profiles for 12 years. They had one last peak with the Jungle Boy profile at least
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Fo3 posted:He's certainly no mateshits. It sounds dumb but acting like a team only existed from the moment you took it over is kind of a lovely thing to do.
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Feb 12, 2015 22:42
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Norns posted:And the last time they did anything of note is when senna was driving the MP4? they last won a title in 2008. ron is an rear end in a top hat and has a hilariously convoluted way of saying very simple things. also, mclaren have been bad recently, so anything he says - regardless of how obviously true and valid - is automatically dismissed with "lol mclaren/ron"
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thegasman2000 posted:Schumy went to the school of hard knocks. From a few pages back but this didnt get enough love.
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Riso posted:Getting caught cheating and losing a lot of money after winning the WCC was pretty notable. This sounds fun. Guess I have some reading to do tonight.
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Feb 12, 2015 23:06
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I remember the McLarens being seriously fast (and hilariously unreliable) in the mid-2000s with Kimi. Back when Kimi was awesome. (wish you hadn't flat-spotted that tire in Germany (Germany?), Kimi)
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Turns out the Foxtel F1 deal starts from this year... http://www.foxsports.com.au/motor-s...l-1227217591538
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jediguy posted:Turns out the Foxtel F1 deal starts from this year... Jediguy OCAU circa 2004? If so you were the guy responsible for me being here.
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Norns posted:I'm pretty new to F1. Can someone explain the raging Ron Dennis hate to me? Because he's ultra stubborn and stuck up. I'm a traditional McLaren fan for some reason and I can't bring myself to hate Ron.
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jediguy posted:Turns out the Foxtel F1 deal starts from this year... gently caress you Foxtel. I liked watching the qualifying.
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George Zimmer posted:Because he's ultra stubborn and stuck up. I'm a traditional McLaren fan for some reason and I can't bring myself to hate Ron.
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be nice wicka posted:they last won a title in 2008. ron is an rear end in a top hat and has a hilariously convoluted way of saying very simple things. also, mclaren have been bad recently, so anything he says - regardless of how obviously true and valid - is automatically dismissed with "lol mclaren/ron" 1 cc in 20 years.
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I can't comprehend having strong feelings either way about the McLaren team. They're just so grey.
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Ron is autistic. My brother is also autistic. I still think Ron is a oval office. Make of that what you will. Here is a question for you. Do you support a team or a driver? I support Lewis, gently caress off don't hate me, and followed him to Mercedes. If he moves to Ferrari I would like them to win. Is this the most common or is following a team more common in this thread? Following Newey is a twat move tbf.
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Fo3 posted:Jediguy OCAU circa 2004? I'm so sorry
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i support all finnish drivers and then mclaren bc they had the best finnish driver(s)
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tbh I always love Ferrari, but there's always a few drivers I'll like pretty much no matter what. Like Big Pastor Maldonado, or Kamui (RIP). Even Jenson Button, despite the awful fraud team he's currently in.
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I've always supported drivers over teams, but reserve a special hatred for everything Ferrari. Plus I think Red Bull (and Christian Horner specifically) are loathsome shits.
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The last time we won the constructors championship was 1998 and the last time one of our drivers won the drivers championship was 2008. Please give us tens of millions of dollars as we are definitely a top team.
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thegasman2000 posted:Here is a question for you. Do you support a team or a driver? I support Lewis, gently caress off don't hate me, and followed him to Mercedes. If he moves to Ferrari I would like them to win. Is this the most common or is following a team more common in this thread? I've supported McLaren since I was like 7 and mostly continue to do so because I don't want to be a glory hunter and support whoever's winning right now (i.e. Red Bull or Mercedes). Ferrari are entitled twats and the rest of the grid are (usually) poo poo, so McLaren's all that's left for me. I used to be a huge Lewis supporter but I guess I figured out I was more about McLaren than him when he suddenly moved to Mercedes in 2013, because I stopped caring as much after that, which I guess is funny because the second I stopped being a huge supporter he starts winning poo poo again. Maybe when I finally swear off McLaren they'll suddenly start dominating and I'll have egg on my face again 
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be nice wicka posted:they last won a title in 2008. ron is an rear end in a top hat and 【has a hilariously convoluted way of saying very simple things〕〕. also, mclaren have been bad recently, so anything he says - regardless of how obviously true and valid - is automatically dismissed with "lol mclaren/ron" Irony, anyone? If anyone was wondering, his simple point earlier was that a 'title sponsor' was significant because they covered (say) 50% of the team's costs, rather than because their name was in the team name snd in the livery. Dudley switched the former and the latter (in a more literal intetpretation), leading to a debate. They ended up talking past each other, because a 'significant' amount of money is a relative term - do we judge it based on %team costs covered, or %sponsorship you actually have in that year because the past is history? It is a good discussion but not if you are so concerned with showing how wrong the other one is that you fail to explain your position. Because then you get "Lol ron sez he can't get a title sponsor but everyone else has one, he's just bitter and has inflated the value of Maccs stupidly and can't consider compromising" "Actually ron is right, title sponsors are a thing of the past" "Um wut?" Ive met dudley and he's a nice bloke, but that argument was painful to read. The question was not "Does McLaren have a titke sponsor?" (Clearly not), nor "Does any team have a title sponsor?" (Yes unless you're being obtuse), nor "is McLaren poo poo and is ron overvaluing it?" (Yes and probably), but instead "What is so singularly important about title sponsors that we put them in a category of their own?" The worst thread.
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McLaren are great, like the England cricket team
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