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I already know the reason. They wanted to use Banks more and ended up with a bit of a clunky plot point.
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Yeah, I recall reading (or hearing on the BB podcast) that Mike was supposed to be a lesser role but Banks was such an affable dude on set they built Mike's role up. So, if it's a plot hole so be it... I'd rather have more time on Mike and Gus than be pedantic about why he did odd jobs for Saul. Ebf But content: seriously check out Bank's behind the scenes or interviews. Such a sweetheart. Cried openly when talking with Bryan Cranston on his last ep. Anyhow, kind of the polar opposite of Mike. Hehe Interstitial Abs fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Feb 17, 2015 |
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Mike doing regular PI and cleaning stuff on the side for extra cash isn't exactly the most outrageous plot point on either show.
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Aphrodite posted:Mike working for Gus always seemed a little weird because then what the hell is he doing slumming it as a cleaner for Saul? Moonlighting as a PI is probably a good way to keep tabs on anyone your drug empire might be interested in or interested in keeping away. It is a bit of a stretch that he is going out doing all these pickups and truck guardings and whatever in addition to being a second in command and in addition to being a PI and in addition to having a family life, etc., etc., but apparently days are longer on TV.
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Javid posted:Mike doing regular PI and cleaning stuff on the side for extra cash isn't exactly the most outrageous plot point on either show. It does seem that his job with Gus would probably require his full attention though. That being said, if he had extra time available, I'm sure he'd like to do extra stuff on the side being that he has to provide for his granddaughter because of reasons, and because she'll never be able to have a job herself apparently.
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Last Chance posted:Perhaps if there's ever a prequel show to Breaking Bad we'll find out the answers to these questions... What are the chances of that happening.
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MrBims posted:Moonlighting as a PI is probably a good way to keep tabs on anyone your drug empire might be interested in or interested in keeping away. It is a bit of a stretch that he is going out doing all these pickups and truck guardings and whatever in addition to being a second in command and in addition to being a PI and in addition to having a family life, etc., etc., but apparently days are longer on TV. He used to have a guy for most of that.
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MrBims posted:...but apparently days are longer on TV. Have you ever been to the south(west)? They got some long rear end daylight in the summer. Git er done.  So wait, when was Fargo shot, between seasons of Breaking Bad? I was just about to ask how Odenkirk is going to juggle a second season but it's set in 1979 apparently.
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Nail Rat posted:It does seem that his job with Gus would probably require his full attention though. Prior to the fall out with the cartel and attention from the police, doing security for Gus would likely just entail keeping tabs on what is going on in the underworld, and not a lot of active work. As a lot of that underworld is represented by Saul Goodman, doing some of that clean up job is probably as good a way as any of figuring out which people might get busted, might flip, etc.
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Doltos posted:Saul makes 700 dollars a case. I assume most of its already taxed Presumably it's a 700 dollar check written out to his own law firm so the amount is before expenses, benefits, company taxes and income tax.
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Aphrodite posted:Mike working for Gus always seemed a little weird because then what the hell is he doing slumming it as a cleaner for Saul? Saul will probably have Mike do some meth business related snooping. He'll catch Gus's attention somehow, and Gus will quickly realize his worth. Either Gus will tell him to keep ties with Saul or Mike will keep working for Saul out of loyalty/because of dual income. IDk. Thats my guess.
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King Vidiot posted:I think it's heavily implied that he didn't, which is why he said "no more half measures". He took a half measure by beating the guy up and threatening him, but he regrets not following through. It was an example for Walt to follow, so Mike not having killed the guy would make the most sense. I assumed that was why Mike was disgraced. If he was plain dirty, it's doubtful the cops in Albuquerque would have called him in, it seemed to me that they consulted Mike a lot and respected him.
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monster on a stick posted:I assumed that was why Mike was disgraced. If he was plain dirty, it's doubtful the cops in Albuquerque would have called him in, it seemed to me that they consulted Mike a lot and respected him. Or maybe... something else happened. Maybe we'll find out in Breaking Two: Electric Boogaloo.
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Xoidanor posted:Presumably it's a 700 dollar check written out to his own law firm so the amount is before expenses, benefits, company taxes and income tax.  Since he has no employees, there will be no company taxes. Sole proprietorship income is just reported as personal income even if you have an LLC.$700 per case theoretically could be good for him to live on as long as he got 4-5 cases finished per month, but A) he's supporting Chuck and B) he probably has crippling law school debt as it's clear he went to law school a little later in life. Also C) maybe he only gets one case some months. The montage made him look really busy but who knows how much time that's supposed to be.
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Maybe he got a scholarship to the University of American Samoa.
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But what about his dapper English secretary? and his round-the-clock office painters?
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Nail Rat posted:It does seem that his job with Gus would probably require his full attention though. Since Gus was ramping up his empire during the time period of Breaking Bad (hiring Gale, building the superlab, cutting ties from the cartel) rather than being up and running at full capacity from the get-go, it seems reasonable that Mike's duties and involvement with Gus ramped up in a similar way. That would explain Mike being available to do odd jobs for Saul at the start of S3, but basically being on call for Gus 24/7 by the end of that same season.
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How old was he meant to be in the flashback?
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He'd still have to pay his own FICA and poo poo out of that. That's probably what the business is for, to take in the $700 checks and pay for business expenses so he only has to pay Self-Employment Tax on whatever pittance he deems his 'Wages' and just straight Income Tax on the rest. I wonder if we'll get to see the birth of Ice Station Zebra Associates.
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As much as I liked Gus I really hope we don't see a lot of him in BCS. His story reaches its climax and ends on Breaking Bad, so having him become a character on BCS means either retelling the same story or just having him leave eventually assuming the audience knows what happened to him. Better Call Saul will be better if it stands on its own rather than just becoming a series of BB characters meeting each other.monster on a stick posted:I assumed that was why Mike was disgraced. If he was plain dirty, it's doubtful the cops in Albuquerque would have called him in, it seemed to me that they consulted Mike a lot and respected him. More like they needed to put pressure on Jimmy and tried to do that through the parking lot attendant he assaulted. I got the impression they have no idea who Mike is other than the tool booth guy, and they are kissing up to him to get him to play ball. His look of disgust came from him knowing he was being condescended to. Hobo Clown fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Feb 17, 2015 |
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RJWaters2 posted:But what about his dapper English secretary? and his round-the-clock office painters? Independent contractors paid via 1099 
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Interesting article regarding Chuck's condition: It's a mental illness. Pretty much inarguably.
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I think they could include Gus and write it well, it's all really in the execution. This show is already way better than the premise would have suggested, and I'm sure if they included Gus they'd recognize the pitfalls of including him and figure out some way to write it so that Gus' inclusion in the story justifies itself. Then again they could also not include Gus and write it really well. Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Feb 17, 2015 |
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So what was the end game of the Kettleman's anyway? The guy in Philly, sure he can order delivery for food and maybe get cable installed. Were the dumbass clients planning to live off a hidden stock of Mountain House #10 cans and MREs while playing cards and singing "So Long, Farewell"?
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monster on a stick posted:So what was the end game of the Kettleman's anyway? The guy in Philly, sure he can order delivery for food and maybe get cable installed. Were the dumbass clients planning to live off a hidden stock of Mountain House #10 cans and MREs while playing cards and singing "So Long, Farewell"? People that steal money, with a massive paper trail, are not known to be the world's best planners. How many times have we all read the exact story from this episode?
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Ravel posted:How old was he meant to be in the flashback? 19
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monster on a stick posted:So what was the end game of the Kettleman's anyway? The guy in Philly, sure he can order delivery for food and maybe get cable installed. Were the dumbass clients planning to live off a hidden stock of Mountain House #10 cans and MREs while playing cards and singing "So Long, Farewell"? They clearly did not have an endgame. The bookie from Mike's story planned out going into hiding and picked a location that would make for the best long-term hiding place. The Kettlemans meanwhile grabbed a tent and some canned food and hoped they would come up with a better idea before they died of exposure.
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Gaz-L posted:Interesting article regarding Chuck's condition: It's a mental illness. Pretty much inarguably. Wow, you mean the space blanket isn't real? loving immersion ruined.
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DarklyDreaming posted:They clearly did not have an endgame. The bookie from Mike's story planned out going into hiding and picked a location that would make for the best long-term hiding place. The Kettlemans meanwhile grabbed a tent and some canned food and hoped they would come up with a better idea before they died of exposure. I loved the kid's; "Finally"
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Last Chance posted:Wow, you mean the space blanket isn't real? loving immersion ruined. Hey, people in the thread were claiming he had cancer and all kinds of stuff. And the only other link I saw posted treated it like a real condition. This article straight up says that the symptoms' correlation to exposure disappears in double-blind tests.
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Last Chance posted:Wow, you mean the space blanket isn't real? loving immersion ruined. No, it is.
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Steve Yun posted:I think they could include Gus and write it well, it's all really in the execution. This show is already way better than the premise would have suggested, and I'm sure if they included Gus they'd recognize the pitfalls of including him and figure out some way to write it so that Gus' inclusion in the story justifies itself. Saul specifically introduces Walter to Gus, and seems to know Gus pretty well at least, to his personality and behavior. What I'm saying is it'll be odd if they DIDN'T include Gus. It's less a cameo and more a "Curious how the hell that happened."
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I want to see Saul defend Bogdan and his cancer causing cleaning chemicals
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I guess I should have phrased that as "having a lot of Gus" and "not a lot of Gus" cause yeah, Gus has to show up at least a couple times.
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Well, we don't have an exact timeline as of yet. They are still establishing that Jimmy is very new to this whole ordeal and quite unprepared for the type and scope of people he is getting involved with. Like a bunch of people are saying, with the ambiguity of the ending of the last episode, we'll get to see if this is the crux of Jimmy becoming Saul. Just like the rest of you, I can't wait to see it. The narrative of this story is done very well. So while the individual stories may be a bit drawn out, the over all narrative is riveting. This dynamic, go hard, man has some of the most humble beginnings and best intentions. What's it going to be that finally pushes him to being a ne'er-do-well?
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There's plenty of time for Jimmy to 'become' Saul. We're on episode 3 of series 1 for god's sake.
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That's kinda what I meant, too. I don't mind seeing Gus once or twice, since he's clearly in the area and Saul's dealt with him. I just don't want Better Call Saul to become entirely about how and why the characters of Breaking Bad all met each other and started working together. BCS is too good on its own to just become Season zero of a separate show that's already ended.
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Gaz-L posted:Hey, people in the thread were claiming he had cancer and all kinds of stuff. And the only other link I saw posted treated it like a real condition. This article straight up says that the symptoms' correlation to exposure disappears in double-blind tests. It is a real mental condition
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That's hilarious. Maybe we're really going to see Baggy pants and backwards cap Jesse.
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thebardyspoon posted:Think he's talking about Mike, who definitely knew Gus. Kurtofan posted:That's hilarious.
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title