bitcoin: a sisyphean nightmare, forever trapped in an endless wall of sperg

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Rick Ross Ulbricht: Feb 3, 2010; put yourself in the shoes of a prosecutor trying to build a case against you. what evidence could they pin on you? there is nothing on your laptop for them to use, if you obscure your bitcoins propperly, there is no way for them to trace them back to me.

jony ive aces posted:

to waste everyone's time playing sperg's advocate for a minute here, the guy posted a whole bag full of d16s so each hex digit could come from a different die? air bubbles aren't likely to all have the same effect across dice right?

in this strange neal stephenson cryptofantasy were talking about, yeah, you're right. unless a manufacturing process produced identically skewed dice due to a defect or something else the dice would probably all be skewed differently. but over a large enough sample i think the distribution of the results from these non iid dice would be normal so a determined bitvillain could get to your wallet that way. gonna go look into the distribution of non iid observations from a finite range and double check but i think thats right.

e: what a bad snype

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Max Facetime: Apr 18, 2009

CampingCarl posted:

Why is most of youtube underwater?

expensive server infrastructure, not a lot of ads on the site

# ? Feb 20, 2015 19:21

LongDarkNight: Oct 25, 2010; It's like watching the collapse of Western civilization in fast forward.; Oven Wrangler

someone should twitter cnn and snitch on sperglock forfalsifying his report. with all the poo poo storm over brian williams you'd think they would be unhappy. not me though, i'm just an ideas guy

# ? Feb 20, 2015 19:21

Wayne Knight: May 11, 2006

Sorry guys, I had hoped to never be this guy but I accidentally clicked the "mark thread unread" button and lost my place. I've been trying to catch up since getting back from my honeymoon. Can someone give me a summary of happenings for the last two weeks or so?

The last thing I read about was some hong kong exchange running off with money and their office had been under renovations for months. With bitcoin I'm not sure if that is specific enough.

# ? Feb 20, 2015 19:22

theflyingexecutive: Apr 22, 2007

four or so bitcoin exchanges just folded. morgan spurlock did a thing where he "lived on bitcoin" for his show (he did not live on bitcoin).

# ? Feb 20, 2015 19:24

Wayne Knight: May 11, 2006

theflyingexecutive posted:

four or so bitcoin exchanges just folded.

in two weeks?? even for bitcoin that's impressive. which ones? also, does anyone maintain a timeline of exchanges opening and folding?

theflyingexecutive posted:

morgan spurlock did a thing where he "lived on bitcoin" for his show (he did not live on bitcoin).

lol

# ? Feb 20, 2015 19:27

Boxturret: Oct 3, 2013; Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

RZA Encryption posted:

in two weeks?? even for bitcoin that's impressive. which ones? also, does anyone maintain a timeline of exchanges opening and folding?

the main canadian one that worked with all the bitcoin vending machines is one of them :toot:

# ? Feb 20, 2015 19:29

theflyingexecutive: Apr 22, 2007

# ? Feb 20, 2015 19:30

LethalGeek: Nov 4, 2009

http://uk.businessinsider.com/new-york-city-bitcoin-stagecoach-robberies-2015-2

no further comment needed just read the URL

# ? Feb 20, 2015 20:07

anthonypants: May 6, 2007; by Nyc_Tattoo; Dinosaur Gum

LethalGeek posted:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/new-york-city-bitcoin-stagecoach-robberies-2015-2

no further comment needed just read the URL

yeah don't click on that business insider link click on the source they're pulling the headline from

# ? Feb 20, 2015 20:10

Boxturret: Oct 3, 2013; Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

# ? Feb 20, 2015 20:12

text editor: Jan 8, 2007

LethalGeek posted:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/new-york-city-bitcoin-stagecoach-robberies-2015-2

no further comment needed just read the URL

this is the validation of bitcoin's value we've been waiting for

# ? Feb 20, 2015 20:19

text editor: Jan 8, 2007

# ? Feb 20, 2015 20:21

theflyingorc: Jun 28, 2008; ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS; Young Orc

anthonypants posted:

yeah don't click on that business insider link click on the source they're pulling the headline from

Still way too positive

# ? Feb 20, 2015 20:40

evilweasel: Aug 24, 2002

anthonypants posted:

yeah don't click on that business insider link click on the source they're pulling the headline from

quote:

�He called because he wanted to gamble during the Super Bowl, which is pretty common,� Mr. Katz told the Observer.

i, too, admit to knowingly contributing to illegal activity in a statement to a newspaper

# ? Feb 20, 2015 20:44

Happy Noodle Boy: Jul 3, 2002

text editor posted:

rift expansion looking bad

# ? Feb 20, 2015 20:49

FCKGW: May 21, 2006

RZA Encryption posted:

in two weeks?? even for bitcoin that's impressive. which ones? also, does anyone maintain a timeline of exchanges opening and folding?

lol

4 exchanges closed in 24 hours then 2 days later another 2 folded.

BTer claimed they were hacked, shut down
Excoin claimed they were hacked, shut down
HITBTC claimed they were hacked, shut down
Netagio said no one is using their exchange, is closing mid-March
Tuesday:
CAVirtex, Canada's largest exchange the the backend for thousands of Bitcoin ATMs said "someone may have gotten a hold of an old encrypted database so they decided to pack it up out of caution.
Kipcoin, a chinese exchange, say's they were hacked and are closing. They're big on Asian HYIP forums so it may have been a ponzi the whole time.

# ? Feb 20, 2015 20:54

Muscle Tracer: Feb 23, 2007; Medals only weigh one down.

anthonypants posted:

yeah don't click on that business insider link click on the source they're pulling the headline from

The Observer posted:

Bitcoin is growing in popularity as a way of quickly and safely moving money. But that also makes the job of a thief much more lucrative and efficient.

"Bitcoin is very safe! But it's also much easier to steal."

:downs:

# ? Feb 20, 2015 20:57

shadok: Dec 12, 2004; You tried to destroy it once before, Commodore.
The result was a wrecked ship and a dead crew.; Fun Shoe

FCKGW posted:

Canada's largest exchange the the backend for thousands of Bitcoin ATMs

no way there's "thousands" of bitcoin atms in Canada. couple dozen, maybe.

# ? Feb 20, 2015 21:02

FAUXTON: Jun 2, 2005; spero che tu stia bene

Lol backend

# ? Feb 20, 2015 21:05

evilweasel: Aug 24, 2002

Muscle Tracer posted:

"Bitcoin is very safe! But it's also much easier to steal."

its a safe way to move money

the instant it stops moving though... :ohdear:

# ? Feb 20, 2015 21:06

Muscle Tracer: Feb 23, 2007; Medals only weigh one down.

evilweasel posted:

its a safe way to move money

the instant it stops moving though...

it never stops moving

just sometimes you lose control of the movement :getin:

# ? Feb 20, 2015 21:06

Munkeymon: Aug 14, 2003; Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.

FCKGW posted:

4 exchanges closed in 24 hours then 2 days later another 2 folded.

Sunday/Monday:

BTer claimed they were hacked, shut down

Excoin claimed they were hacked, shut down

HITBTC claimed they were hacked, shut down

Netagio said no one is using their exchange, is closing mid-March

Tuesday:

CAVirtex, Canada's largest exchange the the backend for thousands of Bitcoin ATMs said "someone may have gotten a hold of an old encrypted database so they decided to pack it up out of caution.

Kipcoin, a chinese exchange, say's they were hacked and are closing. They're big on Asian HYIP forums so it may have been a ponzi the whole time.

gotta know when to hodl em and when to fodl em*

*the exchange, blaming hackers, and turn your asscash in real money while someone is still stupid enough to buy it

# ? Feb 20, 2015 21:29

Just-In-Timeberlake: Aug 18, 2003

found in the grey thread

quote:

I have a genius (and evil) hypothetical idea for a company owner to profit off bitcoin (self.Bitcoin)

submitted an hour ago * by mitchr4

This is going to get shelled by the buttcoiners but hear me out, because this is some ugly capitalist thinking that would work really well.

A company owner decides to pay all his employees in bitcoin, most of whom work minimum wage. He opens a grocery /liquor/ basic needs store next door which accepts bitcoin, and offers a slight discount compared to other stores. He also offers low income housing close by which excepts bitcoin. Employees naturally begin living in the homes and buying things from the store with their bitcoins. Its close, and it's easy to just buy with bitcoin rather than exchange their entire income into fiat. It's the reverse of our current problem... Where people don't have a reason to buy and use bitcoin. The company owner saves money on payroll services, and he makes a ton of money off sales from the store and the housing development. He's essentially monopolized the neighborhood.

Companies did something similar durig the industrial revolution. They created entire small towns... I also worked a miserable minimum wage job at a company called staff mark (basically a non unionized UPS). They offered a payroll debit card... I'm sure the company got a cut of the transaction fees, and most of these poor employees used the service, it didn't cost them anything to use the card. Most workers were foreign, or dirt poor. I bet many couldn't get bank accounts anyway now that I think about it. People willing to work minimum wage jobs would do them for bitcoins. They have no choice. And it would be extremely profitable for the company owner if he created an environment for the employees to spend their money.

TL; DR A company owner could create his own ecosystem which minimum wage employees would almost be forced to use out of convenience.

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The Juggernaut: Nov 29, 2005

LethalGeek posted:

Uh they forgot the CP shark.

# ? Feb 20, 2015 21:43

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

bitcoin would make really bad company scrip

1. it is still technically possible to convert it to cash
2. the thing it is most easily converted into is drugs

a major (stated) reason that companies paid staff in scrip and had company stores was to stop them from buying drugs and booze

here, workers, i will pay you in play money, which you can effectively only use to buy illegal drugs

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Boxturret: Oct 3, 2013; Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

The Juggernaut posted:

Uh they forgot the Torpedo.

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TVarmy: Sep 11, 2011; like food and water, my posting has no intrinsic value

Just-In-Timeberlake posted:

found in the grey thread

legally, aren't employers mandated to have a paycheck option? even though exploitive direct deposit non bank debit cards are a thing, they aren't really the default.

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CampingCarl: Apr 28, 2008

text editor posted:

I hope this is art stolen off a Magic card.

# ? Feb 20, 2015 21:50

anthonypants: May 6, 2007; by Nyc_Tattoo; Dinosaur Gum

TVarmy posted:

legally, aren't employers mandated to have a paycheck option? even though exploitive direct deposit non bank debit cards are a thing, they aren't really the default.

duhhhh, regulation is BAD

# ? Feb 20, 2015 21:54

Penguissimo: Apr 7, 2007

Just-In-Timeberlake posted:

found in the grey thread

im the (likely freudian) misuse of the word "excepts" in the sentence right after the use of "accepts"

# ? Feb 20, 2015 21:57

theflyingorc: Jun 28, 2008; ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS; Young Orc

Muscle Tracer posted:

just sometimes you lose control of the movement

please don't post what happened in my underwear during every date I've ever been on

# ? Feb 20, 2015 22:01

TVarmy: Sep 11, 2011; like food and water, my posting has no intrinsic value

don't those darknet statistics usually refer to parts of the web you can't reach without a password? so it's not, "94 percent of the internet is blackmarket websites and forbidden knowledge!" and really, "the internet is full of secrets like petabytes of boring business memo and college syllabus PDFs."

like a paywalled thread here would be darknet.

# ? Feb 20, 2015 22:09

FCKGW: May 21, 2006

susie is getting a site together to sell off her DPR trial prints

# ? Feb 20, 2015 22:14

mr Scoop: Feb 13, 2006; Help! Someone! Cut my head off, it's trying to murder the rest of me!; Grimey Drawer

TVarmy posted:

like a paywalled thread here would be darknet.

more like dorknet imho

# ? Feb 20, 2015 22:16

Sentient Data: Aug 31, 2011; My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!

No, it's even simpler than that. The most common definition of The ~~Spooky~~ Dark Web is that you can't find it on normal search engines. So to join the shadowy underworld, you need to go through the highly technical and secretive steps of adding this robots.txt to your root directory.

code:

User-agent: *
Disallow: /

I'd also bet that having a web server respond on anything but :80 would count toward The Dark Web. Beyond that it also refers to orphaned links, the kinds on public servers but you need to know the URL to get there instead of relying on a link from somewhere else (like example.com/temp/someDocToShare.ws)

# ? Feb 20, 2015 22:18

duTrieux.: Oct 9, 2003

FCKGW posted:

susie is getting a site together to sell off her DPR trial prints

finally, somebody making money from bitcoin!

# ? Feb 20, 2015 22:20

haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

ahem that is the deep web not the dark web

# ? Feb 20, 2015 22:21

Sweevo: Nov 8, 2007; i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

TVarmy posted:

don't those darknet statistics usually refer to parts of the web you can't reach without a password? so it's not, "94 percent of the internet is blackmarket websites and forbidden knowledge!" and really, "the internet is full of secrets like petabytes of boring business memo and college syllabus PDFs."

like a paywalled thread here would be darknet.

yes. everybody thinks the Deep Web and Dark Web are the same thing

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duTrieux.: Oct 9, 2003

what about the Dank Web

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