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Krakkles
May 5, 2003

It does look like he stabbed the brakes. Probably should've grabbed reverse and gassed it.

Or, you know, not picked such a lovely line.

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jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Yeah I was just being silly because of that press release a page back. Full independent suspension on a jeep wrangler would work awesome, but it would have to be a hell of a setup. Lots of travel, lots of ability to lift it.

The Royal Nonesuch
Nov 1, 2005

Got my swaybar disconnects and front body spacers in last weekend (krakkles - some time suddenly opened up last minute, so I didn't bother texting ya).

:pwn:


All better:


Once they were in I adjusted them so the swaybar was at ~15°, and tapped spots for the storage pins in the skid plate. Pretty slick kit, hopefully they hold up well.

Then I noticed the tires I wanted had a $75 rebate thru Discount Tire sooooo

:10bux: :10bux: :10bux: :getin:

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Hah! It's all good. I wasn't around anyway.

Looks good! On mine, I put some catchs up higher so that my sway bar would be as far up and out of the way as possible. Have you flexed it out to make sure it doesn't hit yet?

(It's probably not an issue, I just remember it being the thought process behind putting mine higher.)

The Royal Nonesuch
Nov 1, 2005

Krakkles posted:

Hah! It's all good. I wasn't around anyway.

Looks good! On mine, I put some catchs up higher so that my sway bar would be as far up and out of the way as possible. Have you flexed it out to make sure it doesn't hit yet?

(It's probably not an issue, I just remember it being the thought process behind putting mine higher.)

I haven't flexed it yet, but I did turn the tires full lock both ways and try to eyeball what would happen. I was a little rushed for time by then, but I put them up about as far as they would go. I still need to fit in the new tires and wheel spacers so I'll see what needs to be moved then.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer
sup jeep crew

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
He picked a really lovely line, should have gone mostly straight down the hill even with that gully. He was hosed the second he put a tire over the edge, and ramming the other one into the other side of the gully pretty much guaranteed it was going to roll.

Dumb driver, dumb line, hopefully no one had their hands on the roll cage.

BoostCreep
May 3, 2004

Might I ask where you keep your forced induction accessories?
Grimey Drawer

Astonishing Wang posted:

My buddy had a bad weekend. It started with trying to go down this:



And ended up with this :saddowns:





I almost flopped my jeep this weekend too. A couple of bystanders saved my rear end by grabbing onto the bumper and pulling me back to earth. I'll add video ASAP.

That really sucks, but at least ZJs are stupid cheap right now. He can pick up another one for under 2 grand and swap parts over easily.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

jonathan posted:

Yeah I was just being silly because of that press release a page back. Full independent suspension on a jeep wrangler would work awesome, but it would have to be a hell of a setup. Lots of travel, lots of ability to lift it.

It would be the end of the Wrangler line. You can't get the kind of articulation that a solid axle setup can in such a narrow package. People see shiny complicated things and assume that they are just better. Independent suspensions are good for go fast stuff where width is good, but they are hard to package in a narrow platform that can follow trails. You'd have to either make the Wrangler have HMMWV width, push the engine up a foot or so, or make CV shafts capable of truly insane operation angles. People would probably buy them still, for a while, but they'd be directly competing with lots of other SUVs/trucks instead of having their own niche to occupy.

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

EightBit posted:

It would be the end of the Wrangler line. You can't get the kind of articulation that a solid axle setup can in such a narrow package. People see shiny complicated things and assume that they are just better. Independent suspensions are good for go fast stuff where width is good, but they are hard to package in a narrow platform that can follow trails. You'd have to either make the Wrangler have HMMWV width, push the engine up a foot or so, or make CV shafts capable of truly insane operation angles. People would probably buy them still, for a while, but they'd be directly competing with lots of other SUVs/trucks instead of having their own niche to occupy.

gently caress you Mopar make this http://gocms.com/index.html

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
They should put portal axles on the next Wrangler Rubicon.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

jonathan posted:

gently caress you Mopar make this http://gocms.com/index.html

My god, it's significantly wider and taller, heavier than hell to boot, probably.

Wamsutta
Sep 9, 2001

Jymmybob posted:

sup jeep crew



loving awesome. I've always reckoned those were crap for snow though, with hugely wide summer tires and all. I have to imagine finding snow tires to fit over the gargantuan brakes is a nightmare.

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot
I have a friend with a CJ7 with a quadra-trac center diff installed with a AMC 360 and I believe its a 727 - basically its the drive train out of a wagoneer. He bought the truck this way, so neither one of us has a clue as to how things went together.

Hes having trouble getting it into lo-range, well it completely lacks it, theres a switch in the cab, but it seems to do absolutely nothing. I have read these are vacuum driven, and how much of a nightmare is this going to be to fix?

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

BrokenKnucklez posted:

I have a friend with a CJ7 with a quadra-trac center diff installed with a AMC 360 and I believe its a 727 - basically its the drive train out of a wagoneer. He bought the truck this way, so neither one of us has a clue as to how things went together.

Hes having trouble getting it into lo-range, well it completely lacks it, theres a switch in the cab, but it seems to do absolutely nothing. I have read these are vacuum driven, and how much of a nightmare is this going to be to fix?

If it's anything like the transfer case in the YJs it's dead simple. There's a few different vacuum diagrams on Google and it looks fairly similar. http://i.imgur.com/HmGTjyJ.jpg

The first thing I'd check is the line that connects to the manifold vacuum to see if it's damaged or leaking somewhere. I'm guessing you've done the obvious and checked if the indicator light on the dash is dead?

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot
Yeah we checked and made sure that worked. Its a comeplete hack job, I have been doing lots of electrical repair on the Jeep as well. I am taking a bet that the check valves are installed incorrectly too, all the lines look new enough.

Edit: Masking tape is not for electrical repair. I wish I took photos of some of the work.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

Wamsutta posted:

loving awesome. I've always reckoned those were crap for snow though, with hugely wide summer tires and all. I have to imagine finding snow tires to fit over the gargantuan brakes is a nightmare.

285/50/20 Blizzak DM-V1s went on 38 miles after getting it. They're a tiny bit narrower and taller than stock but within reason plus they ride much better. I'm putting a set of OEM black split-spokes on this summer with some actual summer tires since in their infinite wisdom both available stock tire types are runflats despite having a fullsize spare.

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
I love the SRT-8, even the older versions, for it's pure insanity. I hope they make a Hellcat version of the Jeep SRT-8. :getin:

How is the electronic locking center diff/transfer case in the 1st generation SRT-8's, anyone know if there are big reliability red flags? That's the only thing that kinda scared me about owning one is the worry if the diffs can take the power.

mod sassinator fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Feb 18, 2015

potato of destiny
Aug 21, 2005

Yeah, welcome to the club, pal.
So, um...

I may have convinced a co-worker that it should be possible to put together an entire "jeep" using nothing but aftermarket parts from the quadratec catalog.

This isn't bad, right?

:ohdear:

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

I would gleefully watch and participate if your coworker was bankrolling the whole venture.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

mod sassinator posted:

I love the SRT-8, even the older versions, for it's pure insanity. I hope they make a Hellcat version of the Jeep SRT-8. :getin:

How is the electronic locking center diff/transfer case in the 1st generation SRT-8's, anyone know if there are big reliability red flags? That's the only thing that kinda scared me about owning one is the worry if the diffs can take the power.

The property manager where I used to live ran a truck/diesel performance shop. He bought an SRT-8 with some rear-end damage, fixed it up, then pushed it to just under 900whp and used it as advertising for his business. That was the first vehicle I was ever in where I needed the headrests. It also crab-walked at 80mph if you floored it. It was definitely the most frightening thing I have ever driven.

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

FreelanceSocialist posted:

The property manager where I used to live ran a truck/diesel performance shop. He bought an SRT-8 with some rear-end damage, fixed it up, then pushed it to just under 900whp and used it as advertising for his business. That was the first vehicle I was ever in where I needed the headrests. It also crab-walked at 80mph if you floored it. It was definitely the most frightening thing I have ever driven.

I'm guessing you've never been caught in a rain storm on drag slicks...

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

jonathan posted:

I'm guessing you've never been caught in a rain storm on drag slicks...

Well, close - I have been on a road course in the rain on a set of Hoosier A6's thanks to poor planning on my part. :saddowns:

Sandbagger SA
Aug 12, 2003

Giant Thighs.
Painted Threads.
Just Off the Highway.


Continuing to just empty every pocket.

Tantalus
Feb 11, 2004

I’m looking at purchasing my first Jeep, specifically an XJ. I was hoping you guys could point me in the right direction. I understand ‘97-’01 are good model years, and to look into issues with the head in ‘00/’01. Are there any other XJ specific things I should be looking for? Anything I should stay away from?

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





You've just summoned Kastein but I think the super-short version of it is "buy a '99".

Tantalus
Feb 11, 2004

IOwnCalculus posted:

You've just summoned Kastein but I think the super-short version of it is "buy a '99".

That's kinda the feeling I got from this thread.

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Here's the answer I got when I asked:

kastein posted:

Sport generally is 4x4. If you get a frontal shot from the CL listing, just look for the differential hanging down on the driver side in the picture, that means it's at least partially 4x4. Make sure the transfer case and front driveshaft are there, a friend of mine got scammed on one that'd had a front axle put in, and a transfer case shifter, but no transfer case or front driveshaft...

NAXJA is a good spot to look for XJs/MJs for sale as well.

99 doesn't have the 0331 head issue, except maybe some very very late 99s, and I've never seen one with it. Just people claiming it might. So I'd bet against that, but check them for the casting number anyways just in case.

99 is the best OBD2 new body style year, 95 is the best OBD1 old body style year.

Tantalus
Feb 11, 2004

Krakkles posted:

Here's the answer I got when I asked:

Thanks. So don't bother with anything other than a '99 if I can help it.

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Yeah, basically.

I heard that advice, then went and bought a 2000, and it's been great - but in no small part because I've basically converted it to a heavily modified '99 at this point. Buy a '99.

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
Double check the rear axle on '99's you look at though. My '99 came with a D35 instead of the 8.25". :( Doesn't even have ABS (all ABS cars had a D35 from what I understand), but for some reason some '99's apparently got the D35 too.

Another annoying '99-ism is that they switched from 1 piece cast to 2 piece composite front rotors mid year, so don't order parts for a brake job, front wheel bearing, etc. until you find out what type is on yours.

BoostCreep
May 3, 2004

Might I ask where you keep your forced induction accessories?
Grimey Drawer
I abused my '01 with a d35 for 30k miles over 3 years and it never gave me a bit of mechanical trouble even at 165k miles. That being said, 99 is best, but maybe don't shy away from a killer deal on a later model.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

mod sassinator posted:

Double check the rear axle on '99's you look at though. My '99 came with a D35 instead of the 8.25". :( Doesn't even have ABS (all ABS cars had a D35 from what I understand), but for some reason some '99's apparently got the D35 too.

Another annoying '99-ism is that they switched from 1 piece cast to 2 piece composite front rotors mid year, so don't order parts for a brake job, front wheel bearing, etc. until you find out what type is on yours.

XJ rear axles:
84-01 (AKA all years) came with the d35 sometimes. Much more common 91 or so and earlier, but it does happen on later ones too, even without ABS.
87-90 some rather rare ones got the d44.
91-96.0 mostly got 27 spline 8.25s, but some got d35s.
96.5-01 mostly got 29 spline 8.25s, but some got d35s.

ABS always implies a d35, but no ABS (as you found out) doesn't imply no d35. They basically used d35s whenever they ran out of 8.25s at the assembly plant.

Quite A Tool
Jul 4, 2004

The answer is... 42
Super saggy overloaded with Mt. Shasta in the background. Going up and down all the hills with this thing was nerve wracking between Phoenix and Seattle. Burned probably half a quart of oil each day. Smokes hilariously on startup now. Jeep life.

Quite A Tool fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Feb 21, 2015

BoostCreep
May 3, 2004

Might I ask where you keep your forced induction accessories?
Grimey Drawer
Round 2 of trying to install these sliders. I cut metal off the front flanges to get them to sit flush with the pinch seams, but now they are about a 1/4" too short to reach the unibody. Do not buy JCR sliders. I'm really not happy with these. The sliders I got from AJ's Offroad for my XJ went on like a glove and were better designed to boot at nearly half the cost. Too bad they don't make sliders for the WJ.

Passenger front:


Driver front:


Driver rear:


They don't hug very tight to the rocker panel and they are BIG.




I also don't like how far they stick out behind the pinch seam bolts. That's a lot of unsupported metal.


Apparently the arms being too short is a known issue going back to at least 2009 according to Jeep Forum searches. You'd think JCR would fix the issue after 6 years. They ship out 1/4" plates to make up the difference.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





BoostCreep posted:

Apparently the arms being too short is a known issue going back to at least 2009 according to Jeep Forum searches. You'd think JCR would fix the issue after 6 years. They ship out 1/4" plates to make up the difference.

That seems like a pretty janky fix.

Seeing as after a total of two off-road excursions is already doing a number on my cheap step bars, I've got my eye on the Kevins Offroad bars with square tube. I do want them to be big / stick out a bit since I'm going to throw some grip tape on the top for my wife and daughter to use as a step.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.
You might want to look at some proper armor that has steps welded onto the side. I don't know what kind of trails you're running, but that definitely isn't helping your ground clearance.

BoostCreep
May 3, 2004

Might I ask where you keep your forced induction accessories?
Grimey Drawer

IOwnCalculus posted:

That seems like a pretty janky fix.

Seeing as after a total of two off-road excursions is already doing a number on my cheap step bars, I've got my eye on the Kevins Offroad bars with square tube. I do want them to be big / stick out a bit since I'm going to throw some grip tape on the top for my wife and daughter to use as a step.

It is janky, but it should work. I just need another 1/4" of metal.


EightBit posted:

You might want to look at some proper armor that has steps welded onto the side. I don't know what kind of trails you're running, but that definitely isn't helping your ground clearance.

The pictures make the sliders look lower than they are. They don't go lower than the pinch seam, so the ground clearance isn't affected at all.

What do you mean by "steps welded onto the side"?

The trails in SoCal are very rocky. Beefy sliders are pretty mandatory, so if anything I might want to reinforce the front and rear of the sliders along the pinch seam, but these will work fine if not a bit unsightly.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.
It's more of a Wrangler thing, your jeep doesn't have much of a quarter panel to armor up. Like this:
http://www.extremeterrain.com/wrangler-jeep-body-armor-learning-information.html

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gileadexile
Jul 20, 2012

Well, QD is working like it's supposed to at least.

Testing Quadra-Drive: http://youtu.be/ZXuWCObTKFg

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