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If it makes you feel any better a trained hunting dog would do a better job of hunting you down than this supposed super predator does. It's a game.
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I don't know why the facehugger "cannot" be the one that infected Foster or whatever, it clearly is and I think there's even a log that's like "the thing fell off and appeared to die" that implied it ended up left inside the ship.
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Feb 20, 2015 21:47
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I was thinking of what Ash said when he was examining the dead one: "I think it's safe to assume it's not a zombie." It should have fallen off and died after implanting the embryo in Foster. There was the deleted-scene "Royal Facehugger" from Alien3 that apparently could implant one queen in Ripley and one drone in the dog (or the ox, in another deleted scene) but that one is about five feet long counting the tail, has webbed "fingers", and its body looks a little different from the normal ones. Other than that it seems that it has been established that one normal facehugger can implant one embryo, then it dies. And even at that I doubt Marlowe would just leave it laying dead on the deck onboard his ship. I guess this is just too much spergin'. My apologies.
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Feb 20, 2015 22:01
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Someone in a suit thought there wasn't enough shooty-pew-pew in the Anesidora, so there you have it.
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Feb 21, 2015 05:31
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Xenomrph posted:It. Though what about facehuggers? They skull gently caress you AND lay eggs inside you. Hermaphrodites as well?
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Feb 21, 2015 05:42
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Aliens have no gender. But if they did, the regular Aliens are total dudes because their head is a magnum dong.
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Feb 21, 2015 05:49
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Shnag posted:Though what about facehuggers? They skull gently caress you AND lay eggs inside you. Hermaphrodites as well?  That's one of the (many) things I like about the Alien - the lifecycle as a whole is so strange and unlike anything on earth, but the components of it are easy enough to grasp on the surface which makes it easy for audience members to get what's going on and be scared by it. I can't think of any other fictional creature so perfectly realized and accessible while also being so weird and unlike anything on earth. 'Alien' conveys it all perfectly.
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Feb 21, 2015 10:49
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Xenomrph posted:Facehugger are a sort of ambulatory penis, but even that analogy isn't quite accurate. They're a transitory stage in the overall Alien lifecycle. They aren't really their own organism because they can't reproduce into themselves, they're just a carrier for the Alien embryo. It doesn't really have a clear analogue with anything on earth, but I guess that's kind of the point. There's plenty of earth organisms that have an "infector" stage that's quite distinct from it's adult stage. And bursting out of the host killing it are also common parasite themes. They just tend to be microscopic rather than 8' tall killing machines 
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Feb 21, 2015 11:08
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I seem to remember the Alien life cycle was at least partly based on that of parasitic wasps, which have the charming trait of laying their eggs inside living hosts. Your facehugger's an ovipositor more than it is a dick, though of course its design is deliberately evocative of human sex organs because HR Giger is a very scary man. As far as the facehugger aboard the Anesidora goes, its presence is pretty much unexplained and doesn't need explanation. One of the crew might have smuggled it aboard to sell to the company, or the lawyer chick might have tried to take it onboard from Sevastopol, or it may just have stowed away with the haul from LV-426 in a crate from the Nostromo's ill-fated away mission. My personal take is that the sneaky little poo poo clung to the underside of Ripley's shuttle, waited for her to dock then scuttled through the hidden vents of the Anesidora to end up ahead of her with the express purpose of delivering a jumpscare and burning off precious flamethrower fuel because the malevolent little fleshtoned shits are like that. It probably follows you all the way from the hive or something, a la the little spider-legged douchenozzle from Alien 3 that inexplicably ends up aboard the Sulaco's escape shuttle. Though the truest explanation really is that the throat-raping glovepuppet dickfingers only ever turn up when the plot requires it. They're all off-screen reading over the script on interminably long coffee breaks, just waiting for their cues.
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Feb 21, 2015 15:10
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Facehuggers are females because they're vaginas that latch on to your face and force you to do oral on them. Drones are male because they are walking penises. Source: H.R. Giger
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Feb 21, 2015 16:35
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Darko posted:Facehuggers are females because they're vaginas that latch on to your face and force you to do oral on them. The HR stands for "Hey! Really!"
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Feb 21, 2015 17:51
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Ekster posted:If it makes you feel any better a trained hunting dog would do a better job of hunting you down than this supposed super predator does. I'm trying to imagine how many times you'd die in medical if the Alien's sense of smell was replicated.
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Feb 21, 2015 18:12
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poptart_fairy posted:I'm trying to imagine how many times you'd die in medical if the Alien's sense of smell was replicated. I think it sorta-kinda-maybe-does have a sense of smell. That's probably why if you hide in one spot long enough, it can zero in on you. I know for certain on nightmare if you hang around long enough, you can see the alien do a "sniffing" motion by standing up and pointing it's head straight up, but I don't know if it's just an animation or if it really does something. The sense of smell may only come into play when you hide in a locker though, and it presses it's face against the door. Creative Assembly really need to do a write up on how the A.I. works at some point.
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Feb 21, 2015 18:43
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The Repo Man posted:I think it sorta-kinda-maybe-does have a sense of smell. That's probably why if you hide in one spot long enough, it can zero in on you. I feel the same way. It seems like she has a sense of smell; to an extent anyway. And even if she doesn't I just use that to explain away the AI tethering and the occasional "cheating". The alien definitely seems to "learn" in certain ways. It may be all my imagination but even if that's true the developers did a great job making it feel that certain things are going on, even if it's just random and the usual AI bullshittery. The number of "cheap deaths" I've experienced in this game feels rather low. Usually it's due to me not being careful enough, paying attention to my tracker or listening closely enough. When she finds me in a locker, I just say "welp, she smelled me in there" or just learned to check lockers after a certain point.
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Feb 21, 2015 18:54
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BiggerBoat posted:The number of "cheap deaths" I've experienced in this game feels rather low. Usually it's due to me not being careful enough, paying attention to my tracker or listening closely enough. When she finds me in a locker, I just say "welp, she smelled me in there" or just learned to check lockers after a certain point. The only time I felt was a cheap death was in medical; I was checking the motion tracker, saw it coming towards me and ducked under a gurney right as I heard it in a vent overhead; it climbed down from the vent (I was already under the gurney at that point), got up while looking straight at me, ran right over and face-hosed me.
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Feb 21, 2015 19:20
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Edmond Dantes posted:The only time I felt was a cheap death was in medical; I was checking the motion tracker, saw it coming towards me and ducked under a gurney right as I heard it in a vent overhead; it climbed down from the vent (I was already under the gurney at that point), got up while looking straight at me, ran right over and face-hosed me. She smelled you.
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Feb 21, 2015 19:23
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Darko posted:Facehuggers are females because they're vaginas that latch on to your face and force you to do oral on them. It's too bad they took the bell end off the back of the alien's head for the movies. E:And the oakleys. 
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Feb 21, 2015 19:26
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The terror of a walking 8 foot penis.
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Feb 21, 2015 19:30
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BiggerBoat posted:She smelled you. Probably smelled my fear, I was making GBS threads my pants at that point. I think that's one of the reasons I love this game so much. It's not about the jump scares, other than the abduction right before heading to the Torrens when putting the space suit on, but even then you get some warning and a few duct ambushes (which, again, you CAN see if you're careful). The game is just TENSE all the time.
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Prometheus is great because it is basically an explicit rejection of Star Trek. Instead of the logical and competent first contact with benevolent aliens Star Trek posits it has incompetent and deluded humans gently caress up first contact with malevolent aliens. People got angry the scientists were morons but that was the point, they're only really there to act as canaries in the coal mine for Weyland anyway.MrMojok posted:I do love this game so, but a couple of things have really been gnawing at me. Isn't there some indication the reactor is sealed off by APOLLO containing/protecting them until WY can arrive to capture them? But yeah it is just a game.
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Feb 21, 2015 21:17
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tarbrush posted:There's plenty of earth organisms that have an "infector" stage that's quite distinct from it's adult stage. And bursting out of the host killing it are also common parasite themes. They just tend to be microscopic rather than 8' tall killing machines
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Feb 22, 2015 00:28
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Another possibly spinoff idea for this game. Predator: Isolation
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Just don't pick up a gun and you'll be OK.
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Feb 22, 2015 09:36
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NESguerilla posted:It's too bad they took the bell end off the back of the alien's head for the movies. It's still there somewhat, just definitely not as pronounced and penis shaped.
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Feb 22, 2015 11:41
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The worst jump scares are the 'dead' androids lying around grabbing you seemingly at random. That got me every single time.
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Feb 22, 2015 13:35
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Ekster posted:The worst jump scares are the 'dead' androids lying around grabbing you seemingly at random. That got me every single time. Their eyes are usually lit up still if they're jumpers.
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Feb 22, 2015 13:47
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I appreciate the clarification on the game, everyone. Shame it's still $60 on US PSN Store, time to spent a little Sunday time trolling video game stores for deals.
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Feb 22, 2015 14:31
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CelticPredator posted:Just don't pick up a gun and you'll be OK. Yeah but see, just like you were ripley's daughter in this you will be Dutch's nephew who is a Navy SEAL out on a anti terror mission when the predator shows up.
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Feb 22, 2015 14:56
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gently caress that, you should be Jake Busey, joining the MiB to find out what killed his dad.
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Feb 22, 2015 16:46
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Sentinel Red posted:gently caress that, you should be Jake Busey, joining the MiB to find out what killed his dad. Press "X" to holster giant poo poo-eating grin
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Feb 22, 2015 18:02
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The_Doctor posted:Their eyes are usually lit up still if they're jumpers. Can you gently caress them up before they grab you? After the first couple of times I got wise to their poo poo but never seemed to be able to hit them before they got me. Bulkiest Toaster posted:Another possibly spinoff idea for this game. Predator: Isolation Good call. That would be pretty sweet. Make it so you have to find areas with mud, water or other things to cool your body temperature and hide, find poo poo to craft traps and then set them in the best place based off of your map. Build weapons and set fires and poo poo. Nice idea. I doubt we'll see a franchise since the game doesn't seem to be selling that well but the possibilities for further games are pretty vast. I still think an Isolation style game based on a slasher movie (Halloween, Jason, Freddie) would be pretty great. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Feb 22, 2015 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Can you gently caress them up before they grab you? After the first couple of times I got wise to their poo poo but never seemed to be able to hit them before they got me. Yeah, you can shoot them while they're down on the floor and they'll take some damage. It's kind of moot, though, since once you notice they all have the glowy eyes you can just give them a wide berth and they'll never get up. Even the one on the science module with you while everything's flying through space and the alien is going nuts can't be arsed to sit up and see what's going on, apparently. Edit: I just started a second runthrough of this yesterday: I really love this game and I think I'm going to try and platinum it. I bumped the difficulty down to easy and I'm going for a no-deaths, no humans killed, collect everything run - I noticed that I still have all the logs and ID tags from my first playthrough. Does that mean that every ID tag I run across in this playthrough is one I haven't collected yet, or do they all show up again? I've only found one ID tag in the first four chapters of the game, so I'd assume the former. Also whoever first called Easy the "space station walking simulator" difficulty, you weren't kidding. Other than loving facehuggers I don't think it'll be hard at all to do a no-death run. Medical was a loving cakewalk. Popular Human fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Feb 22, 2015 |
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Popular Human posted:Yeah, you can shoot them while they're down on the floor and they'll take some damage. It's kind of moot, though, since once you notice they all have the glowy eyes you can just give them a wide berth and they'll never get up. Even the one on the science module with you while everything's flying through space and the alien is going nuts can't be arsed to sit up and see what's going on, apparently. All ID tags show up again, so you will probably need a guide. Some are hidden really well and it can be tough to tell which ones you got already. The guide I used was Maka's Guides. If you google Alien Isolation makas guides, it should bring you to an Xbox forum where all the tags and what not are in the order you can collect them. You don't need 100% of the normal logs for achievements though, only the Nostromo logs. I managed a no death run on normal. You can cheat the system a bit though. When you are killed the game does allow you to go one save back from the last one you made, so it's possible to take a death and not have it count. It helps a lot with the face huggers.
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Started my nightmare run today, I'm sure it will go well.
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Bulkiest Toaster posted:Yeah but see, just like you were ripley's daughter in this you will be Dutch's nephew who is a Navy SEAL out on a anti terror mission when the predator shows up. http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Detective_Shaefer
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Reading between the lines, was the guy in Medical who sent you on a fetch quest secretly addicted to painkillers or something? There's a lot of mention of him jonesing for medical supplies, and that's even after all the patients got moved out.
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Yeah, he was shooting up on the meds. The chief doctor cut his access to the pharmacy just before the incident started.
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Speedball posted:Reading between the lines, was the guy in Medical who sent you on a fetch quest secretly addicted to painkillers or something? There's a lot of mention of him jonesing for medical supplies, and that's even after all the patients got moved out.
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prussian advisor posted:I appreciate the clarification on the game, everyone. Shame it's still $60 on US PSN Store, time to spent a little Sunday time trolling video game stores for deals. I'm not going to say the game is only worth getting when its dirt cheap, but it does go on sale alot. Such as its 60% off on the 360 xbox marketplace at the moment, just keep your eye out like you're doing. Popular Human posted:Yeah, you can shoot them while they're down on the floor and they'll take some damage. It's kind of moot, though, since once you notice they all have the glowy eyes you can just give them a wide berth and they'll never get up. Even the one on the science module with you while everything's flying through space and the alien is going nuts can't be arsed to sit up and see what's going on, apparently. That's not even necessary, just literally don't take your eyes off him. I walked all around a working joe on the floor while looking at him with out him even twitching, maybe you can shoot him, but i know you can't damage them with a wrench until they actually make a move. Its not until you turn your back to him and try to walk away before he grabs you. Though, bashing in the heads of the working joes laying down on the job doesn't seem to attract attention like slapping around his less lazy brethren seem too. Shnag fucked around with this message at 13:23 on Feb 23, 2015 |
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Those of you who've used headphones, can you recommend some that sound good with this game? I have a crap pair I bought for $25 from Target, and want to get something nicer. I don't know if I want to spend hundreds on a nice set of Sennheisers, though.
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