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Cake Attack posted:bottom of the well is kinda dumb It's dumb in that it's pointless back and forth but it's not as bad as people make it out to be. Everything they need (except for the red potion) can be gotten elsewhere in the well. All things considered it can be burned through in ~30 minutes.
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Being able to talk to enemies is a really cool mechanic, even if it's not as good an area as the one beneath OoT's well.
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Feb 23, 2015 21:23
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PantsBandit posted:It's dumb in that it's pointless back and forth but it's not as bad as people make it out to be. Everything they need (except for the red potion) can be gotten elsewhere in the well. All things considered it can be burned through in ~30 minutes.
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Feb 23, 2015 21:26
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Nihilarian posted:I think you also need to bring in the magic beans. Oh yeah, you're right. That as well.
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Feb 23, 2015 21:27
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haveblue posted:Being able to talk to enemies is a really cool mechanic, even if it's not as good an area as the one beneath OoT's well.
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Feb 23, 2015 21:27
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Full Battle Rattle posted:I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but getting the gibdo mask (though fairly easy) is one of the most I like that if you come back to him wearing it he'll say that he's oddly drawn to it and wants you to leave it there so he can study it. Sort of an indication of how he got that way in the first place.
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Feb 23, 2015 21:29
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I think it would be hard for me to pick favorite dungeons because so many of them are good, but I definitely think Stone Tower Temple, the Forest Temple from Ocarina of Time and the Ice Palace from A Link to the Past would be up there.
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Feb 23, 2015 21:44
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I can't pick a favorite total but I can pick a favorite per game: Forest Temple in OoT, Stone Tower in MM, Wind Temple in WW, Snowpeak Ruins in TP. I didn't finish SS so I don't have much of an opinion.
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Feb 23, 2015 22:01
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IronicDongz posted:I can't pick a favorite total but I can pick a favorite per game: Forest Temple in OoT, Stone Tower in MM, Wind Temple in WW, Snowpeak Ruins in TP. I didn't finish SS so I don't have much of an opinion. It would probably be the water temple with the underworld, though the boss there lasts about three cycles too long.
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Feb 23, 2015 22:05
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Bicyclops posted:Some of my favorite moments in Ocarina of Time were always the in-between things, anyway, like delivering things for the Biggoron sword, killing Poes, and delivering masks, but most of it involved galloping across Hyrule Field, whereas Majora's Mask feels more like its teeming with life. I think the dungeons in both games are pretty great, but besides Stone Temple, the MM ones are oddly absent the creepy, long-dead feeling I got from most of the adult dungeons in OoT, so I definitely enjoy Clocktown more. My Zelda pipe dream is Nintendo going all in on the MM formula. Kill off all puzzle dungeons, make a huge overworld with lots of detailed NPCs. Make the focus on overworld exploration and NPC interaction. I know many would disagree with me but after playing MM I realized that the dungeons are the least fun part of Zelda games and that MM is stronger with its fewer dungeons.
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Feb 23, 2015 22:06
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For me it's the Shadow Temple from Ocarina of Time, Snowpeak Ruins from Twilight Princess and the Ancient Cistern from Skyward Sword. I don't have any particular favorite from Majora's Mask or Wind Waker.
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Feb 23, 2015 22:08
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I definitely remember the bosses of Skyward Sword more fondly than the dungeons, and without replaying it, I can't be sure if one of the best dungeons isn't in fact one of the overworld areas.Hikaki posted:My Zelda pipe dream is Nintendo going all in on the MM formula. Kill off all puzzle dungeons, make a huge overworld with lots of detailed NPCs. Make the focus on overworld exploration and NPC interaction. I know many would disagree with me but after playing MM I realized that the dungeons are the least fun part of Zelda games and that MM is stronger with its fewer dungeons. I think there's room for both kinds of things. I would love for a game that's no dungeon or combat, but they'd have to spend the proper amount of time developing it, because it can be easy for those to devolve into a series of mini-games with awkward controls. The disadvantage of the dungeon/get item/fight boss format is that it can get samey, but at least they're used to it.
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Bicyclops posted:I definitely remember the bosses of Skyward Sword more fondly than the dungeons, and without replaying it, I can't be sure if one of the best dungeons isn't in fact one of the overworld areas. The best part of Skyward Sword is sailing on the Sandsea, so yeah, it kinda is.
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Feb 23, 2015 22:15
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If you count the other mini labyrinths there's: woodfall snowhead pirate's fortress ikana castle under the well stone tower the moon I'm probably forgetting one or two, but the big difference is that they're all designed to be completed within a regular cycle of time, so none of them end up being overly long. Also, the overworld is vastly more robust, as many people have pointed out, and there's actually stuff to do with your rupees other than let the counter sit at 999 for the whole game.
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Feb 23, 2015 22:19
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Bicyclops posted:I definitely remember the bosses of Skyward Sword more fondly than the dungeons, and without replaying it, I can't be sure if one of the best dungeons isn't in fact one of the overworld areas. I liked the Ancient Cistern. Had a nice Hindu style to it and a lovely juxtaposition of light and dark. Plus Koloktos loving owned, music and all.
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Feb 23, 2015 22:24
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Koloktos is acceptable, because I remember that after I learned his patterns, he did not give me too much trouble during the boss run. Once in awhile that Kraken guy would really hit me though, and the second Imprisoned battle would really gently caress me up. All in all they were really cool bosses, even if the Thunder Dragon made me want to destroy them utterly so that they could never come back.
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Feb 23, 2015 22:27
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I would legit play an entire game of rooms from the Tower of Spirits in Spirit Tracks
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Feb 23, 2015 22:32
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Four Swords Adventures is kind of Legend of Zelda: all dungeon all the time, and it was a lot of fun.
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Feb 23, 2015 22:34
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Tentalus owns. I was running around the ship with giant tentacles coming out of everywhere, came up on deck and suddenly goofiest looking boss in the game.
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Feb 23, 2015 22:35
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Nihilarian posted:Tentalus owns. I was running around the ship with giant tentacles coming out of everywhere, came up on deck and suddenly Tie between it and the Imprisoned for me. It's like the Muppets leaked into a Zelda game. 
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Feb 23, 2015 22:47
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Nihilarian posted:Tentalus owns. I was running around the ship with giant tentacles coming out of everywhere, came up on deck and suddenly That is literally the child of Mike and Celia from Monsters Inc.
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larchesdanrew posted:That is literally the child of Mike and Celia from Monsters Inc. drat
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larchesdanrew posted:That is literally the child of Mike and Celia from Monsters Inc. Holy poo poo. 
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Bicyclops posted:Four Swords Adventures is kind of Legend of Zelda: all dungeon all the time, and it was a lot of fun.
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Chaltab posted:What's criminal is that Four Swords Adventures came out trying to push GBA-GC connectivity, but it was hard to get working because of the hardware and set-up requirements; whereas now Nintendo has the technology to do it seamlessly via the Gamepad and online, but probably never will. I'm shocked they didn't try it again with the Wii/DS. I wouldn't be shocked if someone at Nintendo has tried to propose doing it again and an executive keeps killing the idea citing poor sales of the original as a reason why it's a bad idea. They really should try it again with the Wii U. The Gamepad would make it much more accessible.
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Feb 23, 2015 23:42
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Spacebump posted:I'm shocked they didn't try it again with the Wii/DS. I wouldn't be shocked if someone at Nintendo has tried to propose doing it again and an executive keeps killing the idea citing poor sales of the original as a reason why it's a bad idea. They really should try it again with the Wii U. The Gamepad would make it much more accessible. If they were ever going to try again, now is perfect. As said, we already have the Gamepad, and almost everyone has at least 1 3DS lying around. Try again Nintendo!
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larchesdanrew posted:That is literally the child of Mike and Celia from Monsters Inc. Stop reading my entries on fanfiction.net.
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Nihilarian posted:Tentalus owns. I was running around the ship with giant tentacles coming out of everywhere, came up on deck and suddenly
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Majora's Mask is the best Zelda I've played and I can't believe it took me this long to play it.
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IronicDongz posted:Nothing is scarier to a small child than playing that game by yourself and just walking into the room where long arms are reaching out of the ground for no reason. Don't go to the bathroom in the middle of the night...
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The best final dungeon is the one from Skyward Sword.
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Nihilarian posted:Tentalus owns. I was running around the ship with giant tentacles coming out of everywhere, came up on deck and suddenly I loved the curveball that dungeon threw at you. Going into the Boss Room meant nothing, and you immediately had to backtrack out as Tentalus began sinking the whole goddamn  PantsBandit posted:Worth noting though that this can be a little weird in Great Bay, where a couple of rooms will not cause the mask to sparkle even though there is a fairy remaining. Worked just fine for me while hunting them in MM3D  . The other thing to note is you don't have to look at floaty particles on the Great Fairy Mask - just watch the ponytails. If there's one in the room, they'll be floating about instead of just hanging straight down when you stand still.
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Chieves posted:The best final dungeon is the one from Skyward Sword. Every best dungeon is in Skyward Sword, but the last one is especially great.
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Spacebump posted:I'm shocked they didn't try it again with the Wii/DS. I wouldn't be shocked if someone at Nintendo has tried to propose doing it again and an executive keeps killing the idea citing poor sales of the original as a reason why it's a bad idea. They really should try it again with the Wii U. The Gamepad would make it much more accessible. They made the friggin' Virtual Boy and Power Glove again and they sold pretty well. Evil Eagle posted:Every best dungeon is in Skyward Sword, but the last one is especially great. Twilight Princess had way better dungeons once you got the Master Sword 
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axeil posted:They made the friggin' Virtual Boy and Power Glove again and they sold pretty well. The difference is that this time they actually worked. .Or at the very least didn't burn your retinas out after five minutes.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:The difference is that this time they actually worked. The Power Glove worked...sorta. It's just that the wiimote is a more sensible version of it.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:
The ones in particular I'm thinking of are Under the platform in the first room and under the central platform in the final room. I had to look at a walkthrough for those because I literally checked every single room with the GFM and didn't get any sparkles.
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PantsBandit posted:The ones in particular I'm thinking of are Under the platform in the first room and under the central platform in the final room. I had to look at a walkthrough for those because I literally checked every single room with the GFM and didn't get any sparkles. I definitely had sparkles for those, because I got stuck on them too.
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