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corn in the bible posted:
More than the incredible racist caricature, this part here is what made me lose it. What does any of this even mean?
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Feb 27, 2015 20:15
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Kai Tave posted:More than the incredible racist caricature, this part here is what made me lose it. What does any of this even mean? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ62Mmu2dws So fresh
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Feb 27, 2015 20:18
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Kai Tave posted:More than the incredible racist caricature, this part here is what made me lose it. What does any of this even mean? Not sure why he mentions a comb, rather than a toothbrush. I guess to setup what looks to be a bald joke? And what looks to be intended to be "don't get fresh with me!" Man, it's been ages since I heard anyone actually use that phrase.
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Feb 28, 2015 00:00
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Kai Tave posted:More than the incredible racist caricature, this part here is what made me lose it. What does any of this even mean? Jack Orlando is crescent fresh.
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Feb 28, 2015 01:55
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 Thanks a lot. I collect Chinese manuscripts. You couldn't believe how pleased I am with this.I dunno about anyone else but this made me crack up.
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Feb 28, 2015 01:59
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Looking at this I remembered another horror from the East...ern Europe. The game where instead of a fingerprint or retina scanner they used a butt scanner. It turned out it was Czech, part of a series, and called Polda 5. http://www.polda5.cz/ Oh, and somewhere on that website they link to a online store selling their poo poo, and it's got amusing stats, with Polda 6 beating Far Cry 4 in sales. It's that good. http://www.jrc.cz/
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Mar 2, 2015 07:17
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Kai Tave posted:More than the incredible racist caricature, this part here is what made me lose it. What does any of this even mean? That's the one that confused you? What the hell is any of this supposed to mean? corn in the bible posted:
It's a series of meaningless non sequiturs. Are they secret agents exchanging pass phrases?
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Mar 2, 2015 13:12
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lol if you can't decipher badly translated old pal banter
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Mar 2, 2015 15:41
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Hmm... This thing was made in Poland, yes? If there is a Polish version then given a script I can translate some of this to see if it is any more coherent.
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Mar 2, 2015 15:46
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PART 5 Man from NIGHT'O'GLANIS stlong, but he no money. We give him money, he let us in.   It's the bar from the opening! Why wasn't Jack allowed back into the bar he clearly frequents? Who knows. Bar music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWnpMCRstBg The woman has information on Jack's case, and is the reason we came here. But it would be a shame to skip everyone else's wonderful dialog...  Learn some manners, son. Why the hell should I? Shut up and beat it. Don't push me, or I'll shut that big mouth of yours. You came in here. Apparently, I had a reason for doin' that. Your reason, your problem. I want nothing to do with it.  Who the hell do you think you are? Is that enough? Think you're a hard man, huh? It's pretty obvious. Just you wait. See if you're still grinning... when I come back with my uncle.The bar is the only place in the game where the inhabitants can change; if you come by later, someone else will be drinking at the bar for Orlando to shout at. The woman, though, sticks around, since she is needed for the plot.  Hey, excuse me, I'll ask the questions. I already heard about the vow of silence. For five dollars we could share the secret. You should always share your secrets, 'specially when five dollars is involved.We give her our last bundle of money. Jack Orlando is now completely broke. Then make me happy and answer a coupla questions for me. I heard he's stayin at the Paradise. His name's Bellinger, August Bellinger. Good girl, buy yourself some candy. I love candy. 'Bye, sweetie. The door in the back of the bar leads to the singer's dressing room. More loot!  Well, Jack Orlando has always wanted to be pretty...  Chocolate pudding with whipped cream. You're in the wrong place, pal. What's the difference? Pudding's pudding. Man, Orlando, you just don't get it! No, I'm just angry, that's all. So don't push me.He's really mad about this pudding thing, I guess? Take it easy, no need to get excited, huh? None o' your drat business.That's all there is to do in the bar, at least right now. Later on we'll deal with the Hotel Paradise thing, but there's something else we need to do first.  Wandering around the city, you may come across this abandoned building. There's no indication it's in any way special, and even if you do notice it you'll probably assume, in finest adventure game tradition, that you need a crowbar or some other bullshit item to get in. The solution is actually to punch the door, which lets Jack enter freely.  There are several rooms in here, as well as a staircase to the basement. The first thing to do is look for a baseball bat -- we need that to get the other item in here.  After that, we just need to find a hobo.    And I just found him! Yeah, 'n' what are you waitin' for? Yeah, think about it, or you'll be pushin' up the daisies. This whole sequence of events was just to get some rope. It might seem harsh, but hobo dude had the only rope in the world so he had to die. Rope in hand, Jack Orlando descends to the medieval catacombs in the basement. Yes.  This is such bullshit.    Why is there an abbey here? Why? Most of these rooms are pointless, but it's important to press this switch on the way to the exit, since it's part of the trigger for a secret passage somewhere in the medieval abbey underneath New York City.  Jack seems unfazed by the situation.  Remember the manuscript we got from the Chinaman? Putting it on one of these bookshelves, combined with the switch in the previous room, opens a doorway next to the the "sfinx." How the hell did people get through here before Jack did? Maybe they all gave vases to a rose seller so they could trade a book to a racist stereotype, I don't know.  Another bullshit puzzle. Why don't you try to figure out the solution? There's also something we need to steal from here for a puzzle later on, so try to figure that out too.  That's the way life works.The thing he picked up in the catacombs allows Jack access to the casino, but there's no reason to go there yet. Next update, we'll go deal with Mr. Bellinger and the Paradise Hotel. 
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Mar 2, 2015 18:08
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You used the lady's portrait for the man's dialog, there. ...Are Polish people unaware that American cities aren't built over Medieval ruins?
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Mar 2, 2015 18:22
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There are some old-rear end parts of Manhattan, alright?
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Mar 2, 2015 18:49
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That pudding thing makes me think it was originally a pun. Though it makes him sound crazy in English.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:57
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what the gently caress is this game why the gently caress does it have an 8.7 score on gryonline.pl how did they get the beverly hills cop theme dude to do the music so many questions No Gravitas posted:Hmm... This thing was made in Poland, yes? secondin' dis although it doesn't seem to make much, or indeed any, sense even when translated back into Polish but hey maybe the translator was just that inept
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Mar 2, 2015 19:33
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Looks like the version on steam can be set to Polish or German as well as English. I don't think anyone has transcribed the game script, though, so you'd have to read through it yourself.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:36
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corn in the bible posted:Looks like the version on steam can be set to Polish or German as well as English. I don't think anyone has transcribed the game script, though, so you'd have to read through it yourself.  Hm. On one hand, it's not that much and I'd like to uncover the mystery that is this fuckin game On the other hand, that's like four beers fake edit: On the third hand I just found a video LP of the Polish version so I'm gonna mute the dude blabbing about poo poo in the background and focus on the no doubt wonderful writing e: the dude has the mouse pointer in the video  quality poo poo
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Mar 2, 2015 20:01
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M.Ciaster posted:quality poo poo Christ. This is awful writing even in Polish. Purple prose to beat the band. Christ! It is coherent, at least in the screenshot you posted. I had 0 hours of sleep and my Polish has gotten fairly weak due to disuse. And I was never great at translating anyway. And I'm originally from a strange region of Poland where a strange dialect is spoken. That being said: quote:The year is 1933. The entire America rejoices due to the 21 correction(*) to the constitution. The joy from the gained back feedom to drink beloved whisky is seen in night clubs(**) and pubs. The Prohibition was unreturnably abolished. (*) Actually the correct word for amendment in Polish. Just amused me that this is what is literally written. (**) Polish people actually have night clubs. That is a club that people go to in the night. (***) Correct Polish in the original, but I'm just playing. Overabundance is another possible word, but I like making words up. Not that you'd be able to tell if I didn't tell you. (****) Awkward Polish word for "his". "Swe". Gee, what is wrong with good old "swoje"? It works just as well but is a bit less purple. Want more? Feed me script or screenshot. Or at least a link to youtube which has some funny stuff in it. I'm lazy. EDIT: And check out that lovely spacing at the bottom of the screenshot too. 
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Mar 2, 2015 20:39
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Ok, so! The very first changes can be already seen in the opening narration. While in the English version the game is explicitly said to be taking place two days before the official end of the Prohibition, the Polish version plainly states that the Prohibition had been abolished some time ago. The bit about bars and so on stocking up in preparation? Yeah, that's not in the original. Why change stuff around so much? iunno What's more, this is listed as the reason for Jack's downfall - apparently he's drinking cause he's... bored and has nothing else to do. poo poo, you'd have thought they'd at least set up some sufficiently noir tragedy to make the hero at least a bit more sympathetic. Our third rate Phillip Marlowe steps out of the bar, and we hit the concerned friend convo. Annnnnd already poo poo's got a totally different tone.  vs.  pictured: not the same thing The dude comes across as way, way more of a dick in the translation (what a surprise). The "get your act together, man" bit should be something along the lines of "what's going on, man?", which would make it take a concerned tone as opposed to a 'man up you sissy' one but I guess the translator really wanted to use that shiny new idiom they'd heard.  vs.  "Everything changes, man, you know how it is" becomes "Wish it were that easy, my friend". Again, completely loving discarding the nostalgic stuck in the past tone of the original line. I've been reading this for like a minute and I'm already actually kinda sorta digging the writing in the original. It's actually, y'know, got a noir tone despite still feeling amateurish as hell and kinda stiff. The puzzles are still bound to be completely retarded but hey maybe at least the script has a bit of that good ol' so-good-it's-bad charm! (lol yeah right) The "what the hell's happening to me" line is in past tense in the original. Makes it sound more solemn. Not that big of a change but dammit I'm gonna bitch this translation out for all it's worth "Everyone knew my name" -"I used to be real good..." - again, subtle, but the translation makes Orlando out to be a dick who only cares about fame. Same with the flashback scene on the stairs - in the original, he replies with "I'd love to, later" which, again, makes him sound more polite. The Colt scene is completely loving butchered - not when it comes to tone, but grammar and wording wise. And I still have no loving clue how "granted honorary citizenship" became "given the freedom of the city" The dialogue in the scene where the blue coat guy gets killed got its dialogue shifted around for some reason, murdering the pacing. Also, the nonsensical "here's your money" one liner used to be "here's your back pay, Pete" which ok granted isn't exactly that much of an improvement look I'm trying to give this game some credit at least alright The old lady who calls for the cops references Saint Teresa for some reason.  Oh yeah also, as a side note: the punctuation in the original script is pretty goddamn terrible. Like, I'm not exactly a master of punctuation myself but there's so many sentences in a dire need of a comma. The cops are assholes. You get the options to throw out the classic bad guy "you can't arrest me, I've got friends in high places!" line - twice - which is kinda perplexing to say the least. The cop does not, in fact, threaten bodily harm (he just mentions he doesn't like Jack, which, well, to be fair, who would?)  How do you put one comma in and miss the other one? The Italian dude actually reacts to Orlando shaking him around with bewilderment, instead of just going UGH WHAT DO YOU WANT  so stilted  ...and calls him a crazy bastard. You're two for two, buddy. The police commissioner or whoever this guy is is actually way more friendly, but then again the dude didn't choose the "you lost weight" dialogue option  No mention of trashcan sleeping, just "you look like my uncle Nathan" whatever the hell that means. No steamrollers mentioned - but "you look like you put your shirt while it was still on the hanger" isn't an expression I can say I've ever heard before in my life. shrug  you can spin the globe corn why'd you miss showing that off dammit I thought this was a QUALITY LP Jack goes over for coffee and spouts some generic 'lol wives cleaning something something' sexist poo poo. That's why I love this country!  The white dude keeps calling Jack a cracker.  Annnnnnnnnnnnd you can N-word him back. nevermind Jack is still a fuckin' dick I guess that's it for the first update and jesus christ I think this actually brought my high school bilingual class instincts back help I swear not to write any more word walls tl;dr it is a poo poo translation that makes a kind of a dickish character sound like an absolute rear end in a top hat! gently caress this game
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All the conversations are written from Orlando's perspective. Seeing as how prohibition ended, he is probably completely hammered, constantly, only capable of slurring (racial) insults at passersby and getting into constant fights. His mind translates his speech into what, to his addled brain, sounds like marvelously witty responses. In his drunken stupor he imagines reliving his glory days, stringing multiple booze fueled days and nights into a coherent narrative of solving a non-existent murder mystery. From the drunk tank at the police station, to various bars, stealing money left and right to buy more booze, he finally lands in the city's sewer system, following an imaginary trail on a road paved with empty bottles. Well, that, or the translation was botched up from already cheesy text.
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Mar 2, 2015 23:40
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:You used the lady's portrait for the man's dialog, there. Ancient Come on! Haven't you seen Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull? 
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Mar 3, 2015 03:26
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M.Ciaster posted:Ok, so! This is actually really interesting -- some of those changes are bizarre. Especially the change in setting -- why the shift from after to before the end of prohibition? Very odd.
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Mar 3, 2015 06:58
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Ok, unless someone beats me to it before next week I will look into the German version and report back.
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Mar 3, 2015 12:25
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M.Ciaster posted:The Italian dude actually reacts to Orlando shaking him around with bewilderment, instead of just going UGH WHAT DO YOU WANT No he doesn't, he calls him a "drat lunatic". I thought this was QUALITY TRANSLATION CRITIQUE.
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Mar 3, 2015 15:10
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corn in the bible posted:
No, it most definitely loving isn't. Life never works that way. Asshat.
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Mar 3, 2015 16:23
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M.Ciaster posted:what the gently caress is this game You took the words out of my mouth. I really thought I'd seen it all for messed up adventure games. You win again, world! Great LP so far!
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Mar 3, 2015 17:29
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So here's a fun fact. Toontraxx doesn't technically exist any more, but not because they were shut down for making this awful game. They just got renamed. What to, you ask? Reality Pump Studios. Most well known for a broken Oblivion wanna-be You may recognise the publisher as the same one that published Jack Orlando, because Toontraxx/Reality Pump is owned by them. So hey, happy ending to the Jack Orlando saga  E: Whoops, I got the two TopWare internal dev teams confused.  It was the other one that became Reality Pump. Toontraxx is currently making dodgy arcade games.
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Mar 3, 2015 18:21
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... No, I'm sorry what the gently caress is wrong with you Jack Orlando
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Mar 4, 2015 16:12
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I dunno what you're talking about, looking for people to punch in the face is a very respectable hobby.
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Part 6 Time for some detective work.   Room 101, sir. I'm his brother and I'd like to surprise him. Mr. Bellinger left the hotel on short notice, sir. Ok. Can't do anythin' there. I'll wait for him in his room. Could I have the key, please? I'm sorry, sir, I don't have my master key today. I see. Maybe the cleanin' lady's got a key? I think she's gone already. But she's not allowed to give her key to anyone either.The keys are around the corner. I don't know why.  What a pointless interlude.  We've been upstairs before, but with the key to room 101 we can access this new area. The game does not tell you this, but this part is timed -- if you spend too long in the room, August will show up and kill you. Hope you don't miss anything! Fortunately, there's no real pixel-hunting here -- the notebook and suitcase are fairly obvious things to go for, and there's no tiny object to pick up. Except the game still fucks you over, because trying to grab or use them does nothing. You have to use the examine icon on both things, because otherwise Jack will simply ignore them and you'll assume they're not important.  Other people's notebooks seem to have an effect on me."Today News" is the name of the newspaper we grabbed from Charlie's shop. And his appointment is tonight!  Now I'm sure what this guy does.That's all we can get from the room. Exit through the door, though, and this happens:   The actual solution is to exit via the window. It leads out to an alleyway, where another required character lies waiting.  I don't know all the bums I put behind bars.Ok, no, we actually need information from this guy, so Jack has to play along for a while. Jerry Cooper? Bottle Cooper? Hey, I drink less now than I did during Prohibition. The bootleg whiskey was much better, not like this crap.But Prohibition is still a law, the introduction said so. Why change the opening if people are still going to mention prohibition is gone? Prohibition. In those days I was earnin' real good money. Yeah, there was plenty of work during Prohibition. What's this, have you joined the ranks of the Untouchables? Hey, Orlando, I do my drinkin' all nice 'n' legal.Is liquor illegal or not? Decide, drat it! If you get a little thirsty, go by the old distillery. Thanks for the tip. I really gotta go, Jerry.Now that Jerry has told Jack about the distillery, the door will be unlocked if we go by. Somehow, the foreman will psychically know that Jack Orlando has heard of his distillery and unlock the doors. Back to NIGHT O GLANIS!  The guy from before has been replaced by a new, much friendlier man. Did you win the lottery, buyin' everybody a drink like that? Whassat got to do with you? I can't stand it when a drunken bum like you starts pesterin' people.   You're very punctual, Smith. I just prefer to be first. He who comes too late... I know. How're things shapin' up? Everything's just fine. What about yourself, did everything go smoothly? Dead easy. If you happen to have any more jobs like that... We'll keep you in mind. We should get the business finished. That's my opinion.  We haven't had to come here before, but it's an alternate route into the bar. If you decide to sneak in rather than simply paying the bouncer, you come through here. I Iike this place. No one'll disturb us here. Yeah, we can do our business here undisturbed. Don Scaletti sends his greetings. He's happy everything went so smoothly. I'm happy to hear that, it's just that other guy... Don't get any grey hairs about him. We'll take care of him. Wait a minute, I'll just count the money. This is a critical moment. If you didn't kill the hobo for his rope supply, you won't be able to tie this guy up once you've knocked him out. If you leave the area without doing so (and, if you don't have rope, there's no way to know that's even an option) then he'll wake up and leave. Later on, he'll show up and kill you in a cutscene. Better hope you weren't relying on the autosaving! Thankfully, I cheated and knew ahead of time; on my first playthrough, I was not so lucky.  Back at the bar, Bellinger has arrived.  How're you feelin? Fine thanks, and I hope I'll be feelin' a lot better soon. I'm sure of that. You got it all? Yeah, sure. I suggest a change of scenery before the handover and all that. No, we'll soon be there. Excellent. I like everything to run smoothly.    How will Jack Orlando get out of this one??
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corn in the bible posted:How will Jack Orlando get out of this one?? Five bucks it's hitting the snitch in the back of the head.
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Mar 4, 2015 21:14
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Jack tells them the guy got run over by the car.
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Mar 4, 2015 21:53
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Am I supposed to know anything that's going on or is this more like a fever dream
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Mar 4, 2015 22:10
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Don't quote me on this but I have played Jack Orlando before it was rereleased as the directors cut. I think the whole medieval rooms are an addition to the directors cut. Which would make sense because they're so out of place that it looks like they had some old assets and wanted to include them. But having no idea of good game design they just threw the new rooms somewhere. 
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Mar 4, 2015 22:22
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This has to be one of the times when the gun is useful. It's the least logical thing!
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Conro101 posted:Am I supposed to know anything that's going on or is this more like a fever dream Jack Orlando is solving a crime, obviously.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:29
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 How could anyone possibly think Jack did it? He was firing the opposite direction and the glass on the car is broken towards him.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:32
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What the gently caress, is any of the dialogue in this game supposed to make any sense? It's like everyone has brain damage or something, and is only guessing what the other person might be saying.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:33
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AkaiNami posted:Don't quote me on this but I have played Jack Orlando before it was rereleased as the directors cut.
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Those cops don't look like they have guns. Shoot the cops and claim they were on the mafia's payroll when we inevitably get caught and tried. This post crashed firefox, clearly I'm onto something. Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Mar 4, 2015 |
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