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Cake Attack posted:it's not that hard? i never use earth wall and i never had any difficulties with it, even on my blind first playthrough where i didn't have stuff like the carnelia weapon and the gladiator belt  I'd probably be less bitter if A) it hadn't taken so long, and B) he hadn't killed me by acting 4 times in a row spamming his AT Delay shot.
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Cake Attack posted:it's not that hard? i never use earth wall and i never had any difficulties with it, even on my blind first playthrough where i didn't have stuff like the carnelia weapon and the gladiator belt The last boss and a lot of the chest monsters just seemed to do way too much aoe damage that it seemed impossible without constantly using earth wall otherwise I'd be constantly healing instead of actually doing damage.
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Rangpur posted:Up until the very last boss I would have agreed with you. Leper Residue posted:The last boss and a lot of the chest monsters just seemed to do way too much aoe damage that it seemed impossible without constantly using earth wall otherwise I'd be constantly healing instead of actually doing damage. I had no problems with that on my blind playthrough because Agate's S-Craft at 200 + Wild Rage made those way too easy. First turn Final Break, spend the rest of the fight Wild Raging to restore CP for the next time. I might have done that for certain parts of the final boss too, but that was a while ago. My second playthrough I just dropped 3x White Gehenna, 1x Aero Storm before they took a relevant action. Everything after that was just cleanup.
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There's a blog post up about the current status of Trails in the Sky: Second Chapter.quote:While I went through the main scenario text I also ran each major scene by a recorded playthrough of the game. SC’s main scenario is roughly twice the size of FC’s (*please see the “Dirty Breakdown”) and has more Olivier than ever. Based on just that alone, I think I can assure you guys with some certainty that you’re going to enjoy the hell out of the story. You’ll also probably need a spreadsheet to keep track of all the citizens of Liberl since they refused to stay in their respective regions and kept getting married and going on pilgrimages and…
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Feb 28, 2015 05:03
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huh the QA screenshots were of a vita, so I guess they're still going ahead with the PSP release.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:There's a blog post up about the current status of Trails in the Sky: Second Chapter. 
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xylo posted:Sad that it's till months away. I was hoping they were closer then that. well after the steam version was like six months late they're probably being pretty conservative with any estimates. not that i think it's gonna come out next week or something, but i could see it before summer
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Gurumin comes out this month, it's not the barely functioning PSP version and I can't wait to run around hitting cardboard box monsters with a drill spear while wearing monkey ears. Haters can fight me. Also goons will understand the meaning of Remove Tokaron
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Gurumin is seriously the game I've been waiting months for. I love the soundtrack and the visual style it has, so I've been wanting to play it for a long-rear end time.
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toddy. posted:Gurumin comes out this month, it's not the barely functioning PSP version and I can't wait to run around hitting cardboard box monsters with a drill spear while wearing monkey ears. Haters can fight me. Was the PSP version particularly bad? I didn't recall any glaring issues with it.
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Poor framerate, bad draw distance, removal of UI elements (there was a timing gauge for critical hits), pretty bad load times in some places, tendency to crash 1st Gen PSPs. Mostly just stuff forced by trying to port a 2007 PC game down to an inferior and fragile portable device.
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So a friend of mine went ahead and recorded the opening sequence of Trails in the Sky the 3rd, so I went ahead and localized his translation and subtitled it. Since its pretty unlikely the 3rd will every come to the west, I thought it'd be worth sharing. If you care about potential spoilers for SC, there are a few lines that mention SC in passing, but if you've only played FC it shouldn't matter. But, if you are trying to go in completely blind, you might wanna skip it.
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Every now and then I'll ask myself "hey, why haven't I finished playing through Ys Origin as Hugo on Hard yet?" and then I load up Ys Origin and start playing and remember that I'm playing through Ys Origin with Hugo on Hard and also I'm in Silent Sands.
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If Ys Origin was just the Toal playthrough the game would be so much more palatable. Screw artificially extending gameplay if your characters and bosses blow chunks.
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toddy. posted:If Ys Origin was just the Toal playthrough the game would be so much more palatable. Screw artificially extending gameplay if your characters and bosses blow chunks. I agree that artificially extending gameplay by - in this case - making the player play through the entire game multiple times is loving lame, but Yunica was fun as hell. She wasn't as fun as Toal, but it was still a really good time. Hugo is boring to play, that's the real problem.
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FighterKnuckles posted:Since its pretty unlikely the 3rd will every come to the west, I thought it'd be worth sharing. toddy. posted:If Ys Origin was just the Toal playthrough the game would be so much more palatable. Screw artificially extending gameplay if your characters and bosses blow chunks. I honestly agree with this. It's somewhat offset if you amp the difficulty as you go, but only somewhat. Hugo is a particularly bad case, though I find him interesting to use on a 'gimmick' level. Throw his normal attack into the mix and you have something that's an interesting idea, but just doesn't seem to work compared to the other two. If the game became a bit more 'bullet hell' or something it'd be fun. Instead we have a guy who feels like the beginner character of the bunch at times and doesn't have much else going for him aside from a story in which he gets to be a jerk to everyone. I do like Yunica a lot, though. Still, I'll always love the game, playing as Hugo included, in its own way. Part of me wonders what it would be like in an Ys Seven/Celceta style with party member switching and more of the search team playable. It'd also kind of get rid of the need for splitting up the story at all, when I think about it. Doubt it'll ever happen, though. Still waiting for a real Ys I & II remake, Falcom... Saralene fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Mar 8, 2015 |
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Saralene posted:Part of me wonders what it would be like in an Ys Seven/Celceta style with party member switching and more of the search team playable. It'd also kind of get rid of the need for splitting up the story at all, when I think about it. Please no. The Seven style of party members making everything a chaotic mess, skills having subexperience to grind and forced character switching because you can't damage certain enemies for Reasons is the worst thing to happen to the series since Ys V.
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Agreed. I'm a huge Ys fan and I liked Seven, but I got Celceta day one and still haven't finished it. I don't like the direction the series is going.
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King of Solomon posted:I agree that artificially extending gameplay by - in this case - making the player play through the entire game multiple times is loving lame, but Yunica was fun as hell. She wasn't as fun as Toal, but it was still a really good time. Yeah, I like Yunica's play style the best actually, but Toal is also very fun. The worst problem with Yunica and Hugo is that they can't even fight the final boss. How loving stupid is that? What's the loving point? They should have just removed Hugo from the game entirely, made Yunica and Toal available from the start, and they both get to actually finish the game. I feel like they didn't even playtest Origins at all, and didn't bother to fix any of it despite the post release support. I actually really like the 3-man party style of the new Ys games, it's very different but it works pretty well. I'd love to see a Secret of Mana game done with a style like that. Things I don't like about the new series? Basically everything else. Terrible stories (and there's way more of it, which is the real problem), increased grind (though Celceta is better about this), poor balance, Flash Guard is a bad mechanic, etc. The music is at least still pretty good though, and Dogi is generally entertaining in 7. Then there's Calilica and Lisa. I never thought I'd see Ys characters I hated more than Terra but they managed it.
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People give the Ys 7/Celceta combat system a hard time, I think it was a good idea given they were going for a portable experience. They wanted it to be a little grindier but also a little easier while still maintaining good dungeon and boss design. It's definitely not everyone's thing but I can understand what they were going for. Celceta's story, on the other hand, went from ok to trash faster than a modern Final Fantasy game and the ending might as well have not even existed. I'm hoping Adol Does Greece can do a lot better, and that Mishy is a playable character. I can't really dump too hard on those games though. Compared to Ys V every other title since has been perfect, but honestly that might be giving them too much credit.
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I don't really get how Ys7/Celceta can be considered more grindy than the older games. They never really force grinding on the player even in nightmare mode, but that kinda stuff did happen more in the older games. Like having to run around in circles before a boss was definitely a thing in Ys1+2, Orgins, and Ys6. Some towns you just couldn't leave before you obtained a certain weapon or armor. I understand the newer games may promote grinding by having skills to level or having more buy-able items. But when you have stuff like flash guard/roll and can afford to let party members die, grinding doesn't ever really seem necessary. Maybe my memory sucks and I have to play Celceta again or something. Or maybe I just had more fun killing stuff so I didn't notice.
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Celceta's grind wasn't bad overall. Getting 100% map was tedious annoying padding though (and also gets you one of the best items in the game). Farming materials is still just minor pointless padding. 7 was much worse, the weapon/skill system was a lot more tiresome and grinding out materials to get characters decent weapons for the end game was awful. And this is actually important because the game requires you to use all 7 characters for the final boss. Perhaps the bigger problem that's making it feel a lot worse is that both of those games are a LOT longer than your average Ys game. Usually Ys games run in the range of 10-12 hours tops, but 7/C are closer to 30-40.
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I think they can make the party system work, they just have to do some balancing things to bring back some semblance of the difficulty found in the older 3D games. A lot of it may just be addition by subtraction; don't let players horde healing items, get rid of crafting so that you're more or less stuck with a smaller set of armor/weapons and have to make do with what you're given.
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:Perhaps the bigger problem that's making it feel a lot worse is that both of those games are a LOT longer than your average Ys game. Usually Ys games run in the range of 10-12 hours tops, but 7/C are closer to 30-40. Exactly my problem. I like when an Ys game is a tight, exciting experience. Not a drawn out, boring one like Celceta.
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:7 was much worse, the weapon/skill system was a lot more tiresome and grinding out materials to get characters decent weapons for the end game was awful. And this is actually important because the game requires you to use all 7 characters for the final boss. Okay, this is a good point but maybe a bit exaggerated. You do need to grind a bit at the end because everyone takes part in the final boss. I didn't need to max everyone out, not even close, to beat the final boss. I did use Adol and one person from every group often though. Gwyrgyn Blood posted:Perhaps the bigger problem that's making it feel a lot worse is that both of those games are a LOT longer than your average Ys game. Usually Ys games run in the range of 10-12 hours tops, but 7/C are closer to 30-40. I'm not so sure. My 7 clear files are more like 20 hours even on nightmare, but it is different for everyone. I would think this is something most people would want though. If the game was 12 hours everyone would complain nowadays. Unmature posted:Exactly my problem. I like when an Ys game is a tight, exciting experience. Not a drawn out, boring one like Celceta. I agree with you but only when it comes to most other games. But when I get to play a new Ys game I would like it be a bit longer because I enjoy them the most. I wouldn't expect a 30 hour long game but a bit longer than one run of Origins would be nice. Longer than Felghana for sure. But it's like you said, if the experience isn't tight, it isn't worth it. I still enjoyed Ys7/Celceta a lot though. Celceta wasn't boring for me. It was different with more exploration that was sorta required if you wanted the best stuff, as Gwyrgyn mentioned. It's not going to be everyone's cup of tea and even I'll admit I'd rather rush into dungeons than get 100 percent of whatever the heck. Nate RFB posted:I think they can make the party system work, they just have to do some balancing things to bring back some semblance of the difficulty found in the older 3D games. A lot of it may just be addition by subtraction; don't let players horde healing items, get rid of crafting so that you're more or less stuck with a smaller set of armor/weapons and have to make do with what you're given. Yes. I would like the party system to work better. I enjoy using different characters and seeing who I like best. But the infinite healing items in Celceta was a definite no. Crafting is kinda silly in an Ys game considering it's supposed to be fast paced and nobody wants to sit there and farm items. Hopefully they can find a good balance and maybe go back more to the roots but keep the parties around.
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Having AI party members running around is antithetical to the sort of tight little arcadey action game that Oath and Origin are. In the Ys 7 engine games, particularly during boss fights, you can still just about feel the beating heart of that sort of game in there somewhere but it's faltering under all the cruft piled on top. It's kind of sad.
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AI party members let players slack off when they're that powerful. It takes away from the sense of control and accomplishment.
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wateyad posted:Having AI party members running around is antithetical to the sort of tight little arcadey action game that Oath and Origin are. I can see what you mean because your party members are dumb AI. But other than that, eh. I don't find that it hurts the experience. I actually find it more exciting because I can switch party members quickly to do more burst damage or to just have fun playing as them. I do like playing with just Adol in the older games, don't get me wrong. I just think my attention span would falter if they made a new "Adol Only" game and it wasn't as hectic. I guess that's my main concern. I love the movement and hectic feeling of the newer games and I wouldn't want to lose that. It's there in the older games, but it was more linear. ie. This boss will always behave like this so if you have it memorized YOU WIN. This is still present in the two newer games, but you have a lot more freedom to mess up because of the mechanics like guard and roll. That's a good thing and a bad thing. Those abilities are kinda cheap, but so are the bosses. So you don't have to grind if you can play well. Still not a perfect solution for everyone, but it's fun to me. I don't have a problem with the older game's bosses. However, they were more memorization (and maybe grinding) than anything. Especially on harder difficulties. I just like more options than other people. I was actually more excited during Ys7 and Celceta's boss fights. Specifically in 7, they were much more dynamic. The music sure helped. It's certainly true that there is less feel of danger when you have more party members though. Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:AI party members let players slack off when they're that powerful. It takes away from the sense of control and accomplishment. Yes. But they kinda suck when they are AI. Still, yes.
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See, part of what makes a good one of the sort of game that Oath and Origin ultimately are is how everything is on you. You never have to take damage, any time you get hit it's your own fault. Because of this in they do not let you carry healing items. Your health bar is, for the most part, your health bar. This is a good thing. When you introduce AI party members, you have two options:
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wateyad posted:See, part of what makes a good one of the sort of game that Oath and Origin ultimately are is how everything is on you. You never have to take damage, any time you get hit it's your own fault. I don't think first time players are invisible. After that, eh. It doesn't matter what the AI does as long as it doesn't completely mess with your experience. wateyad posted:When you introduce AI party members, you have two options: First bullet. We have a long way to go from that. Also, it really doesn't affect Ys7/Celceta too much that it makes you scream. The AI manages. Second bullet. This happens but it's not unexpected? They take damage. You can heal them, or not. I think you are looking for something that can balance the AI. Not just in this game. Latte Lottie fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Mar 9, 2015 |
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Was Ark of Napishtim actually confirmed as one of the games XSeed was trying to bring over/to Steam? It's my favorite Ys game and I would like to spend cold hard cash on it to show my appreciation!!!!
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Close to it. They teased a bunch of announcements for 2015 via silhouette and one of the silhouettes was that guy with the black hair. Geas maybe, was his name?
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Volt Catfish posted:Ark of Napishtim [...] favorite Ys game What.
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God, gently caress the penultimate final boss of Ys Origin. I finally manage to get through the rest of the game as Hugo and both times I got close to defeating him, he used the giant laser death beam while my boost was still charging up. He's absolutely kicking my rear end.
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Playing as Hugo makes this sound weird and incorrect, but if you know he's about to start the giant laser (there's a big, slow tell to it) get in close and circle around him. The move doesn't hitscan and if you circle in close enough his laser won't catch up to you running around him.
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Yeah, I managed to take him down after, like, a half-dozen more attempts. Now I'm currently halfway through playing as Toal. I will say that when I first played through this as Yunica, I didn't really care much for the story or characters. After playing through as Hugo and now as Toal, though, while I wouldn't call the writing spectacular, their stories are a lot more interesting and quite a few of the characters have grown on me. While it may have taken me, like, twelve goddamn months to actually finish up this game, as my first Ys game it's gotten me interested in the series. I hope Gurumin is as good as it looks because it looks really really good.
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Couldn't find anything in the beforeiplay thread, and figured no one would probably know anyway outside of this thread in the first place soooo... is there anything one should know about Brandish on the PSP before playing it for the first time?
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Nate RFB posted:Couldn't find anything in the beforeiplay thread, and figured no one would probably know anyway outside of this thread in the first place soooo... is there anything one should know about Brandish on the PSP before playing it for the first time? There's nothing really you won't learn by just playing, as the game is incredibly accessible, but here are some tips: - Potions come rather abundantly after a point, especially if you're using the rest feature, so don't hold back on using them if you need to. - The time that passes during resting isn't important, so don't let it stress you. - Rings are limited use and won't raise your Int stat, so either sell them or use them in a pinch. - RETRY BREAD IS YOUR FRIEND. If you think you're gonna run into trouble, drop some bread. Faroush fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Mar 23, 2015 |
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Saralene posted:I kinda disagree, but maybe I'm just hopeful; Still, logically, if SC does well, surely it'd happen someday, right? I don't think it would add to the gameplay very much if it were in a Celceta/Seven style of gameplay, only because the level design doesn't accommodate for it very well. Furthermore, the linear nature of Darm Tower wouldn't allow for quite the same experience as Seven or Celceta, which tends to accommodate for a party with their heavy exploration elements.
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