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Bloodly posted:Always remember he's responsible for The Scorpion. He had a super-villain made specifically to kill Spider-Man. And the Spider-Slayers, IIRC
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Behold the power of the press, that J. Jonah Jameson is thought of 'that guy who doesn't like Spider-Man very much' and not 'Spider-Man villains? Let's see, there's Jameson, Doc Ock, the Green Goblin...'
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Mar 3, 2015 07:07
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Bloodly posted:Always remember he's responsible for The Scorpion. He had a super-villain made specifically to kill Spider-Man. Excuse me. Scorpion was created to defeat Spider-man.
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Mar 3, 2015 07:09
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FredMSloniker posted:Behold the power of the press, that J. Jonah Jameson is thought of 'that guy who doesn't like Spider-Man very much' and not 'Spider-Man villains? Let's see, there's Jameson, Doc Ock, the Green Goblin...' Y'know what we call people who talk like that? Menace.
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Mar 3, 2015 19:17
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Network Pesci posted:And he's the only guy in Marvel who can wear that mustache without reflexively getting punched in the face by Captain America.  Dark Reign: Sinister Spider-Man #1
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Mar 3, 2015 19:35
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So, I've started watching Arrow, and it's fun. It makes me want to read fun and awesome Green Arrow stories. The only one I'm really familiar with is the Green Arrow and Black Canary books, which I actually quite enjoyed. So recommend me some more stuff!
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Mar 7, 2015 00:09
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The most recent arc in Green Arrow is heavily inspired by the show (including being written by writers from the show, one of whom wrote for the GA/BC book that you mentioned) so maybe start there? Green Arrow: Year One is also a pretty good version of the origin, with a villain a TV viewer will recognise.
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Mar 7, 2015 00:12
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Gaz-L posted:The most recent arc in Green Arrow is heavily inspired by the show (including being written by writers from the show, one of whom wrote for the GA/BC book that you mentioned) so maybe start there? Green Arrow: Year One is also a pretty good version of the origin, with a villain a TV viewer will recognise. Is the most recent version just called Green Arrow?
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Mar 7, 2015 01:09
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10 Beers posted:Is the most recent version just called Green Arrow? Yes, the arc I'm talking about started in #35, though a lot of good things have been said about the run from #17-#34 also.
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Mar 7, 2015 01:16
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Gaz-L posted:Yes, the arc I'm talking about started in #35, though a lot of good things have been said about the run from #17-#34 also. Lemire's run (starts at 17) is great, and I say this as someone whose only prior experience with the character is TV show. It's a little different from the show, but it also introduces Diggle into the comic.
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Mar 7, 2015 01:24
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And the run from #35 introduces Felicity and Mia/Thea.
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Mar 7, 2015 01:28
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Green Arrow v3 was fantastic, and is pretty much the best GA run.
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Mar 8, 2015 23:28
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Mike Grell sheds a silent tear. But seriously his run that begins with 'The Longbow Hunters' is the best.
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Mar 9, 2015 00:17
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Kevin Smith has a VARIABLE track record in comic book writing, to say the least, but with Green Arrow he managed to get it right. The Quiver series where Ollie comes back from the dead is one of the best comics series I've ever read, and the one that made me really, really interested in Green Arrow as a character.
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Mar 9, 2015 02:36
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Archer's Quest by Meltzer right after the Kevin Smith revamp is pretty good, but outside of a few moments, esp Hal, and Heaven, Quiver rings pretty hollow for me. And Onomatopoeia is a terrible villain,
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Mar 9, 2015 02:47
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Dreqqus posted:Archer's Quest by Meltzer right after the Kevin Smith revamp is pretty good, but outside of a few moments, esp Hal, and Heaven, Quiver rings pretty hollow for me. And Onomatopoeia is a terrible villain, I'm referring to the first trade collection especially, up to the end of the initial villain.
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Mar 9, 2015 03:35
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Redeye Flight posted:I'm referring to the first trade collection especially, up to the end of the initial villain. He's very much a mixed bag. He writes Etrigan like a 3rd grader's first poem. But I liked both trades decently enough, and I'm not sure if Oliver Queen would have come back from the dead if Kevin Smith hadn't wanted to write it.
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Mar 9, 2015 09:13
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Skwirl posted:He's very much a mixed bag. He writes Etrigan like a 3rd grader's first poem. But I liked both trades decently enough, and I'm not sure if Oliver Queen would have come back from the dead if Kevin Smith hadn't wanted to write it. Hal came back. Barry came back. gently caress, even Bucky eventually came back and he'd been the uber-example of "See? Some characters stay dead!" for decades. Ollie had been around long enough and had enough street cred comics-side. He'd have been back, Smith or no Smith. Would he have been back so soon? Hard to say, but someone would have remembered how much they liked the old Green Lantern/Green Arrow stuff back in the day and brought him back eventually.
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Mar 9, 2015 15:09
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jng2058 posted:Hal came back. Barry came back. gently caress, even Bucky eventually came back and he'd been the uber-example of "See? Some characters stay dead!" for decades. There used to be a saying: "Only three characters will ever stay dead in comics, Uncle Ben, Bucky Barns and Jason Todd" And I agree, Smith Arrow is actually pretty great. I guess because the somewhat goofy under current actually suits Green Arrow really well as a character.
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Mar 9, 2015 15:52
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e X posted:There used to be a saying: "Only three characters will ever stay dead in comics, Uncle Ben, Bucky Barns and Jason Todd" Yep and taking a kids character and making him a victim of abuse.
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Mar 9, 2015 17:34
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e X posted:There used to be a saying: "Only three characters will ever stay dead in comics, Uncle Ben, Bucky Barns and Jason Todd" The version I've seen tends includes Gwen Stacy as well.
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Mar 9, 2015 19:35
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e X posted:There used to be a saying: "Only three characters will ever stay dead in comics, Uncle Ben, Bucky Barns and Jason Todd" I vote we change it to "Only two characters SHOULD stay dead in comics, Uncle Ben and Jason Todd"
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Mar 10, 2015 00:05
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I know one person who's ok with Jason Todd being alive. Uncle Ben and Gwen Stacy are forever dead, that's good enough.
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Mar 10, 2015 00:17
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:I know one person who's ok with Jason Todd being alive. Hate to be the one to tell you, but.... http://marvel.wikia.com/Spider-Gwen
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Mar 10, 2015 00:21
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jng2058 posted:Hate to be the one to tell you, but.... Not the same Gwen, though? Spider-man's Gwen stayed dead so I'm not sure if that counts.
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Mar 10, 2015 00:25
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With the big Secret Wars universe-reboot upcoming, who can say?
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Mar 10, 2015 00:35
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So what we're saying is we can't wait for Thomas and Martha Wayne to finally come back.
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Mar 10, 2015 00:41
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Gwen and origin characters aren't coming back they are to important as dead. Bucky is the only important dead character to come back to life and that is because no one gives a gently caress about Captain America.
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Mar 10, 2015 00:55
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qntm posted:So what we're saying is we can't wait for Thomas and Martha Wayne to finally come back. Thomas did in Flashpoint, but that was an alternate universe where Bruce died instead of him.
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Mar 10, 2015 02:04
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David D. Davidson posted:Thomas did in Flashpoint, but that was an alternate universe where Bruce died instead of him. Martha was also in Flashpoint, remember?
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Mar 10, 2015 02:16
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CharlestheHammer posted:Gwen and origin characters aren't coming back they are to important as dead. Bucky's return was also very well done.
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ConfusedUs posted:Bucky's return was also very well done. The Winter Soldier is the character DC wish the Red Hood was. (Or that they think he IS, given that he's had an ongoing title until the present day?)
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Mar 10, 2015 02:27
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Gaz-L posted:The Winter Soldier is the character DC wish the Red Hood was. (Or that they think he IS, given that he's had an ongoing title until the present day?) It's been really good since Lobdell came back. How it made it that far is a mystery to me though because basically everything before that was trash. Maybe it's being ghost written.
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To get the thread back on track with the whole excessive violence front, have some Voynich Hotel. The protagonist, a gangster who fled with millions of syndicate money, has been caught by the syndicate. His lover is a very old and very dangerous witch. ( read right-to-left )       - Voynich Hotel Day 66 Anime. I'm not super comfortable with the dude's drawing style, but the character at least acts like a mature adult. \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Squidster fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Mar 10, 2015 |
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Mar 10, 2015 02:39
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...Why does his lover look like a child?
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WickedHate posted:...Why does his lover look like a child? I suspect you can answer that question yourself.
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WickedHate posted:It's been really good since Lobdell came back. How it made it that far is a mystery to me though because basically everything before that was trash. Maybe it's being ghost written. dark_tzitzimine you really need to make your sockpuppets less obvious
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CharlestheHammer posted:Bucky is the only important dead character to come back to life and that is because no one gives a gently caress about Captain America. Also no body and Captain America is awesome.
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bobkatt013 posted:Also no body and Captain America is awesome. Wasn't Bucky's death a retcon in the first place?
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Idran posted:Wasn't Bucky's death a retcon in the first place? Yep it was revealed in Avengers 4, and ignored all the issues with Cap and Bucky that had them fighting commies. However, they were able to make gold with it.
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