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Over all I feel pretty content to kill MC ED and I am now happy there are enough things to read into about this whole ordeal.
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TheRam posted:Uh, what? Scum turbo hammer D1? I'd at least like to hear more about MC ED's first impressions about other people.
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Mar 11, 2015 16:36
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Poison Mushroom posted:"Turbo" might be the wrong word. One more person casually drops a vote without realizing how close MC is to being lynched, then a scum comes in and 'accidentally' hammers. As hilarious as turbolynches are (and they are, indeed, hilarious), we've passed that point. Wrong. Dunk him
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Mar 11, 2015 16:37
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Poison Mushroom posted:This is why I should refresh before posting when it takes me ten minutes to reread the thread. Poison Mushroom posted:According to Votefinder, this is only MC's third game, so I don't really feel good about lynching him, or that he's been pushed to -2 with over a day left until deadline. I find it interesting that PMush doesn't want to turbo MCED for being new (is he even new?), but threw down a vote on ANarc. That said, I feel like I always think PMush is scum. AnonymousNarcotics posted:D1 is so ridiculous. We all joke post and then people try to pick apart the bullshitting to try and find scumminess. It's so silly. The only way to get info is to lynch someone so we can see the flip and start putting the pieces together. AN is stating a bunch of Mafia truths here - I also hate D1 because it's really hard to make an informed decision. None of the reasoning going into her vote really needs to be said, so it feels like she's trying to put out content despite not having a lot to say right now. That said, it feels like more of a newbie thing than necessarily a scum thing. TheRam posted:Over all I feel pretty content to kill MC ED and I am now happy there are enough things to read into about this whole ordeal. I'm in no rush and see no reason not to let MC ED weigh in more before ending the day.
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Mar 11, 2015 16:41
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Poison Mushroom posted:"Turbo" might be the wrong word. One more person casually drops a vote without realizing how close MC is to being lynched, then a scum comes in and 'accidentally' hammers. As hilarious as turbolynches are (and they are, indeed, hilarious), we've passed that point. Turbolynches don't usually take 24 hours to come to fruition, and if the scum play is that transparent then surely we'd want to present the scum such an opportunity to incriminate theirselves? I do agree he should list his thoughts and feelings on the other players before dying. CP what's your boner for Ernie about?
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Mar 11, 2015 16:43
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Murmur Twin posted:I find it interesting that PMush doesn't want to turbo MCED for being new (is he even new?), but threw down a vote on ANarc. That said, I feel like I always think PMush is scum.  ?
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Mar 11, 2015 16:45
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Poison Mushroom posted:Hahaha. Guess the feeling is mutual. 
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Mar 11, 2015 16:48
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:D1 is so ridiculous. We all joke post and then people try to pick apart the bullshitting to try and find scumminess. It's so silly. The only way to get info is to lynch someone so we can see the flip and start putting the pieces together. Well sure, I'd lunch Narco for this post. Lumpen posted:Somber and MCED and anyone else trying to get traction on TheRam for "lying" likely flip Scum. Nobody is sincerely that dumb, but it's understandably tempting for a Scum to feign easily to find a place to drop a vote. I clearly don't know Town Lumpen as well as I thought after your play in The Room but I'm having difficulty believing that this is the best you can do day one. TheRam posted:Haha I like you. Thanks but I'm a little weirded out that you just dropped this. What was the point of our previous discussion from your perspective?
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Mar 11, 2015 17:57
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Somberbrero I'm not going to dignify dumb questions like that with a response. If you want to talk about it, you tell me what you think my perspective was.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:01
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TheRam posted:CP what's your boner for Ernie about? He's lying about his role in a scummy way.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:09
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TheRam posted:Somberbrero I'm not going to dignify dumb questions like that with a response. If you want to talk about it, you tell me what you think my perspective was. Why not?
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Mar 11, 2015 18:13
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CapitalistPig posted:He's lying about his role in a scummy way.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:29
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Poison Mushroom posted:Why are you so sure it's a lie? A Lie Detector role isn't too out there, especially for an Opop game. because reasons.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:30
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CapitalistPig posted:because reasons.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:31
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HMMMMM
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Mar 11, 2015 18:35
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CapitalistPig posted:HMMMMM
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Mar 11, 2015 18:37
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Poison Mushroom posted:HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMM
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Mar 11, 2015 18:37
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CapitalistPig posted:because reasons. I kind of doubt you caught him in a role based scum slip, though? I seem to have openly lied a lot, what's the difference? If this is a soft claim thing just keep doing your thing it doesn't make sense to say anything else and your death would only seek to incriminate Ernie. If you're just doing a weirdly powerful D1 gut read then maybe uh, don't risk making us double-kill a townie off some vague flavour/role based hunch? Somberbrero posted:Why not? You asked a dumb question with really an obvious answer. I am confirmed town to myself, and I know I have nothing to gain by answering it so why would I entertain a possible scum on such a tedious line of inquiry! If you have some point, I said I would be willing to go into it, but what does anyone gain from me justifying that which is so clearly just! Lumpen you need to do more, I want to figure out if you are townkin because that's really the thing I'm most interested in right now.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:47
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For clarity last part re: pigman, when I say "don't risk making us double-kill a townie off some vague flavour/role based hunch?" I mean a scenario where you trick us into thinking a gut read is a claim based read, and then when you die we naturally turn on Ernie, who you did not actually have any read on other than gut and/or hateboner.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:48
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Honestly I just still don't understand what makes a good scum read on D1 and this is my third game and my whopping 4th game-day so I guess I should know by now but everyone has their own ideas, if I accuse TheRam for posting confusing poo poo well past the joke phase, I'm scummy for couching my vote, but apparently voting for people that you think are either scummy OR dumb townies is apparently ok because obviously (according to some of you) an inexperienced player having trouble on the most confusing day of the game is a sure sign they're going to be a liability for the rest of the game. Its also dumb as hell I'm not going to give any reads on anyone because I don't think I can justify any of them enough to slow the existing momentum on me and if I try too hard to defend myself I'm just going to give whoever the scum out there are something to hide behind. If you guys want to kill me D1 for information great, I hope there's something useful enough here for you to use, but I honestly don't see the point in participating anymore. I'm really tempted to just vote for myself to end this day quicker so that you guys can see my flip but I'm 100% sure someone, probably town, would claim that's scummy as hell also. FYI I'm a busdriver so there are probably a lot worse town roles to lynch on D1 so I hope my flip gives you guys all the information you need and no I don't give a gently caress if this is a dumb or bad town tactic because a) I'm pretty sure I"m already dead and b) its just a game guys!
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Mar 11, 2015 18:50
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MC Eating Disorder posted:Honestly I just still don't understand what makes a good scum read on D1 and this is my third game and my whopping 4th game-day so I guess I should know by now but everyone has their own ideas, if I accuse TheRam for posting confusing poo poo well past the joke phase, I'm scummy for couching my vote, but apparently voting for people that you think are either scummy OR dumb townies is apparently ok because obviously (according to some of you) an inexperienced player having trouble on the most confusing day of the game is a sure sign they're going to be a liability for the rest of the game. Its also dumb as hell lol ##unvote
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Mar 11, 2015 18:50
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Role based information is what I have. Please lynch ernie. Thats all I'm giving you for now.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:54
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CapitalistPig posted:Role based information is what I have. from night 0?
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Mar 11, 2015 18:55
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TheRam posted:You asked a dumb question with really an obvious answer. I am confirmed town to myself, and I know I have nothing to gain by answering it so why would I entertain a possible scum on such a tedious line of inquiry! You've spent way more effort avoiding answering the question than it would actually take to just answer the question. Please do so, thank you!
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Mar 11, 2015 18:57
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Rurea posted:from night 0? What difference does it make?
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Mar 11, 2015 18:58
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Hey MC ED, take a chill pill bud. The reason I wanted you to give reads was in case you're scum, not if you're town. Town wouldn't know poo poo at this stage so we shouldn't really care that much about town guesses, but a newbie scum may be pretty bad at covering his or her tracks! Anyways, your role is funny and you seem sad and I don't want to kill you now. I guess I believe you saying I've done confusing poo poo beyond jokephase but these things aren't like clearly delineated and D1 is a crapshoot full stop where the best you can do is make content, that's obvious to people who've played much and part of the reason why: ##vote Somberbrero Part of why I want to kill Somberbrero is all this disingenuous talk about my play, I think he knows better. I just do what I can do to make the game start and have fun, his questions about that just feel weird, and I don't like them. I feel more like he's trying to advance the goal of a potential lynch on me for doing things that require me to be put more readily on the firing line in a kind of lazy sloppy way that vaguely resembles towniness. I don't really see a town motivation for that stuff, it's possible I am just that confusing to him but I dunno, I'm sure we've crossed paths before. I have a bit of an unfair preference to kill someone that I don't really know, though, I think I'd feel bad about murdilating Somberbrero but at the same time I think he deserves it most atm.
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haha oh nevermind, CP I'm trusting you. ##vote Ernie Also was going to unvote Somber because I just remembered apparently he is on like a 12 game loss streak or whatever.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:01
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CapitalistPig posted:What difference does it make?  ##vote ernie
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Mar 11, 2015 19:02
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It really isn't a hard question, Ram.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:02
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Somberbrero posted:You've spent way more effort avoiding answering the question than it would actually take to just answer the question. Please do so, thank you! I think the answer to your question is transparent, and I'd rather push you to try harder.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:02
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CapitalistPig posted:Role based information is what I have. If anything, I don't really see anything better to go with D1. ##vote Ernie TheRam/Somber reads as town/town slapfight to me, for what it's worth. Both are just adding to the discussion which is a good thing.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:07
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Why is everyone excited to lunch Ernie for lying but giving TheRam multiple free passes?
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Mar 11, 2015 19:10
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Somberbrero posted:Why is everyone excited to lunch Ernie for lying but giving TheRam multiple free passes? I don't think I've ever seen a D1 lunch actually hit scum simply based on analyzing posts. You of all people should know this! CapitalistPig posted:Role based information is what I have. I'm voting Ernie because CPig is hinting that there's a good reason to, and I don't think we're going to get a better lead without information based off of flips and such.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:16
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I've seen it multiple times. Anyone who ignores content day one is just preparing to fail day two.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:18
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If Ernie flops town we can just dunk cpig tomorrow
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Mar 11, 2015 19:19
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If Ernie is lying as town then why would Cpig necessarily be scum?
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Mar 11, 2015 19:21
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Rurea posted:If Ernie flops town we can just dunk cpig tomorrow All I know is that he is lying about his role. Which is enough for me persoanlly.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:22
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Somberbrero posted:Why is everyone excited to lunch Ernie for lying but giving TheRam multiple free passes? a ha ha ha ha ha what? pray tell my friend! ------------------------------------------ CP isn't an auto-lynch if Ernie doesn't flip though there'll certainly be some 'splaining to do. That's a bad thing to say Rurea.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:23
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uhmmm cpig.
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TheRam posted:uhmmm cpig. what
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