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Ernies claim isn't bullshit though? He successfully named my power, and who I targeted. I also have proof that he targeted TNL like he said he did. Everything checks out on Ernie's end, unless he is lying about the Copy and Kill being the only two things that happened
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Rurea posted:Ernies claim isn't bullshit though? i'm not, i can see that possibility but it would be stupid of me to do this when the scum are already one down (i can't be the sk since you tracked me to ninth last night, and he's not the person that died)
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Mar 12, 2015 19:56
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And there's nothing that says you aren't both lying. Although here's a fun interesting test for Ernie. Target Magnus tomorrow night. See what comes up. I'll selfhammer if another vote comes down, so ask more questions.
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Mar 12, 2015 19:59
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:
maybe im too stupid but is this some kind of Thin Red Line reference?
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Mar 12, 2015 20:00
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Also you aren't exactly "bulletproof". If you get targeted by kills SOMEBODY still dies.
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Mar 12, 2015 20:01
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:Although here's a fun interesting test for Ernie. Target Magnus tomorrow night. See what comes up. i'm really sad whoever said they could give me two actions in one night failed to target me i wanted to see who targeted both nightkills but sure
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Mar 12, 2015 20:02
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And why not, I'm practically dead and will be lynched if two scum flip before I die. Lied my rear end off about the roleblockable bulletproof. I'm an alternating vigilante/rolecop. The lie was because hey, scum won't target bulletproof, and if they roleblock/kill me, it spares other people. Killed Ninth on Night 1, rolecopped Magnus on night 2 but was told that it failed. Either it's because I was roleblocked, or I targeted someone who died. Who cares. However, if I'm lying, then there will only be ONE target on Magnus.
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Mar 12, 2015 20:03
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So there's your Night 1 kill. Go ahead. See if you can attribute the two on Night 2.
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Mar 12, 2015 20:05
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:And why not, I'm practically dead and will be lynched if two scum flip before I die. if this is actually your role, i'm sorry but i'm going to continue wanting you dead your defense of 'both rurea and ernie are lying scum gambitting' is ridiculous if you're now admitting to doing the kill
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Mar 12, 2015 20:05
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Self-preservation. And spite, really. But I just told you exactly where to look for scum. In fact, I'll withhold the kill tonight. SK's don't get that luxury.
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Mar 12, 2015 20:07
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##unvote This game
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Mar 12, 2015 20:09
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:And why not, I'm practically dead and will be lynched if two scum flip before I die. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Mar 12, 2015 20:11
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I can dig it. ##unvote
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Mar 12, 2015 20:14
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Good lord, I go do other things for a day and suddenly everything in the world happens
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Mar 12, 2015 20:16
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:And why not, I'm practically dead and will be lynched if two scum flip before I die. So if there is an SK, that means we would've had 3 potential kills on N1. Oy.
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Mar 12, 2015 20:18
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Seriously. Not killing tonight, since I have that luxury.
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Mar 12, 2015 20:18
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:Seriously. Not killing tonight, since I have that luxury. You get that that proves nothing though, yeah?
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Mar 12, 2015 20:18
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Also doesn't an SK being able to withhold a kill depend on the mod? I could swear I've seen SKs withhold kills before
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Mar 12, 2015 20:20
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And as for why I lied? I'm an arrogant bastard. I am better than you. Look at Day 1. I was dead to rights and you bought it. I fully believe that I am more capable, and thus, I deserve to live over anyone else. There you go.
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Chic Trombone posted:Also doesn't an SK being able to withhold a kill depend on the mod? I could swear I've seen SKs withhold kills before I've allowed it. It's also still entirely possible he's scum and not SK
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Mar 12, 2015 20:24
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Opopanax posted:You get that that proves nothing though, yeah? Call it good faith.
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Mar 12, 2015 20:25
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I feel like we have gotten nowhere close to finding scum. ##vote AnonymousNarcotics eccogambit
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Mar 12, 2015 20:27
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Rurea posted:I feel like we have gotten nowhere close to finding scum. Au contraire. Whoever else targeted Magnus is likely scum, because I rolecopped him.
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Mar 12, 2015 20:28
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:Au contraire. Well seeing as he died....yeah? I don't get your point
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Mar 12, 2015 20:29
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Rurea posted:Well seeing as he died....yeah? Ernie. Or are we going to doubt him now?
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Mar 12, 2015 20:43
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:Ernie. you know i don't get the names of who targeted the dead person, yeah? just a list of the abilities that targeted them.
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Mar 12, 2015 20:46
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Your results will say one of the following: A: Rolecop/kill. Someone needs to counterclaim rolecop to disprove that. B: Kill, which fits with my action failing.
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Mar 12, 2015 20:55
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:Your results will say one of the following: or it will say any other of a dozen things depending on who visited magnus n1, anyone who has died at night will say 'kill', i guess. it's not like kumba will differentiate for me 'serial kill' vs 'night kill'
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Mar 12, 2015 20:58
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And? It'll fit with my claim regardless. Unless, you know, scum counterclaim rolecop or someone lies about a roleblock.
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Mar 12, 2015 21:04
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I've thought about this situation a bit and I'm gonna go with "lynch all liars" ##vote MCS Your claim is set up in such a way that it's difficult to verify and we have 0 actual proof of you doing anything other than TNL being dead. For all we know you could be an SK or scum trying to weasel out by claiming in such a way that even if Ernie doesn't see a rolecop action on Magnus it would "prove" your claim, and I dislike that immensely
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Mar 12, 2015 21:11
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Who's our resident roleblocker again?
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Mar 12, 2015 21:14
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:And? It'll fit with my claim regardless. i'm confused, what's stopping you from having killed whoever-else-wasn't-magnus-that-died-yesterday, or even lying about being a rolecop and having actually killed magnus?
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Mar 12, 2015 21:15
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Ernie. posted:i'm confused, what's stopping you from having killed whoever-else-wasn't-magnus-that-died-yesterday, or even lying about being a rolecop and having actually killed magnus? Nothing. However, also consider that I am a known evil at this point.
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Mar 12, 2015 21:24
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:Who's our resident roleblocker again? MC ED is a claimed roleblocker. I don't know why he didn't die tbh
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Mar 12, 2015 21:27
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Interesting. And no claim so far.
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Mar 12, 2015 21:28
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And there seems to be one other roleblocker that isn't saying anything, as there have been 2 roleblocks each night. That is, if you arent' lying and if MC isn't lying
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Mar 12, 2015 21:32
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As I said, known evil at this point. I'll refrain from killing as per the vigilante perks, and I throw out rolecops when I'm able. In the meantime, we spend the remainder of today finding actual scum. If the scum have a roleblock, hey, it ain't aimed at someone else.
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Mar 12, 2015 21:47
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##unvote
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Votecount for Day 3  MEDS CURE SCHIZOS (4): King Burgundy, Ernie., Rurea, CapitalistPig, Ernie. (1): CapitalistPig, Opopanax (1): AnonymousNarcotics, MiltonSlavemasta, AnonymousNarcotics (1): Rurea, MEDS CURE SCHIZOS, CapitalistPig, Not Voting (3): MC Eating Disorder, MEDS CURE SCHIZOS, OpopanaxWith 10 alive, it's 6 votes to lynch. The current deadline is March 13th, 2015 at 10 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 1 day, 4 hours.
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MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:In fact, I'll withhold the kill tonight. SK's don't get that luxury. I don't think this can be guaranteed at all, and I think relying on it to prove your innocence is pretty stupid. Have you withheld any kills so far? As town why would you only do that now that we are actually getting somewhere? Who did you kill N2, Magnus or Asiina? Still navigating the utter clusterfuck that your bullshit has caused and if you want to condense your entire strategy to date in one post that would be very helpful. I'm willing to buy Ernie and Rurea scum team with you as vig if you can actually come up with a good reason why you've lied your arse off throughout the entire game and killed TWO townies on little to two evidence, but after doing two read throughs of the thread today it still makes absolutely no sense to me, why you'd kill two people.
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