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isnt this something that should be discussed in the discussion thread instead of in the middle of a game?
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Met posted:So you're insinuating I'm being exclusive and negative by saying "lynch"? I guess if that's how you choose to interpret it. You can probably use a word filter to change my vocabulary to something nicer though. I've played a fair amount of Mafia irl and I'm a little uncomfortable saying "lynch" over and over again in a public setting.
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Mar 12, 2015 22:01
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yeh sea pig is right, kill somber
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Mar 12, 2015 22:03
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Met posted:I don't begrudge anyone for being uncomfortable with the term but I also think they're being a little sensitive if they get upset by other people using it in the context of the game. I won't go out of my way to make a thing of it, "THIS GUY is going to be strange fruit in the trees by tomorrow" or anything like that because that would be godawful rude. Intent has everything to do with what I'll find offensive. I personally could care less about the word and it doesn't offend me at all. I just get that other people are bothered by it and it takes 0 effort on my part to change. I have this thing where ketchup freaks me the gently caress out and I don't like being near it. My friends, bless their hearts, are aware of this and go through the minimal trouble to not wave it in my face / put it on my food. It's totally an irrational thing on my part, but since people do something like that for me I try to show the same common courtesy when other people point out dumb little things that make them uncomfortable. CapitalistPig posted:isnt this something that should be discussed in the discussion thread instead of in the middle of a game? I'm just bringing it up because it was asked, but yeah.
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Mar 12, 2015 22:04
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Somberbrero posted:I guess if that's how you choose to interpret it. You can probably use a word filter to change my vocabulary to something nicer though. Intent. You're intentionally being rude.
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Mar 12, 2015 22:04
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Met posted:Intent. You're intentionally being rude. No, I'm not. My behavior has nothing to do with you. I've been making a good faith effort to ignore it whenever I see you post something that I think is inappropriate or rude, because you don't care and Mafia is a party game on the internet. I'd appreciate it if you did the same. I apologize if you are offended by my usage of words other than 'lynch' but I'm going to continue to do so.
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Mar 12, 2015 22:12
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Cuddleplorp em all!
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Mar 12, 2015 22:14
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Somberbrero posted:Can anyone help summarize the case on me? Three of the votes are from people who are admittedly not reading the thread. One of them is from someone who is very generously using all of their computer time at their mental ward to play this game. Amoeba's vote is okay even if it's wrong. I don't think I saw you provide any counter interpretation, so unless I'm mistaken then that point remains unchanged. So try and rationalise your early actions as something other than opportunistic name-clearing. I did get a little ping going off how Lumpen and Nummerik followed my vote again. Lumpen seems fine, it's more numerrik that is low content/no content bandwagonning.
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Mar 12, 2015 22:25
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TheRam posted:Calling it now, Lumpen Somberbrero and Narc all scum. Something is faulty here, there's a lack of logic based on game sizes - specifically tacking Hal on as a godfather on the end. I'd expect 3 scum 1 3P of this size game. Ram, you wanna re-think your game winning post?
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Mar 12, 2015 22:27
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Amoeba102 posted:I don't think I saw you provide any counter interpretation, so unless I'm mistaken then that point remains unchanged. So try and rationalise your early actions as something other than opportunistic name-clearing. Well, I thought the other interpretation was obvious. I've been lunched a lot day one and I thought it'd be nice not to have to worry about that. If I were scum and taking Ernie seriously, why would that action make any sense? It'd just get me outed day one.
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Mar 12, 2015 22:32
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Amoeba102 posted:Something is faulty here, there's a lack of logic based on game sizes - specifically tacking Hal on as a godfather on the end. I'd expect 3 scum 1 3P of this size game. Ram, you wanna re-think your game winning post? I guess that with 15 people there are likely 4 bad guys. I had my triple scumteam but I said before I thought Hal might be a badguy so I tacked it on. shrug!
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Mar 12, 2015 22:36
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This game is fun to read. I think PMush is still scummy. I also think AnonNarc is. I'm not sure how I feel about numerrik. He did say I should be dunked. that was mean. The accountant defense is hard for me to read. I ALSO think we should just do the eccogambit and lynch all lurkers ##vote AnonNarc
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Mar 12, 2015 22:36
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TheRam posted:I guess that with 15 people there are likely 4 bad guys. It's not me, I'm a good dragon I promise. I really need to catch up here
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Mar 12, 2015 22:38
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Yeah, I probably won't be around tonight and I'm leaving soon. Good luck, you'll be sad if you dunk me. ##vote numerrik
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Mar 12, 2015 22:40
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Lumpen posted:Ecco's SJW skeleton squad has deemed the ad hoc fatal justice as properly signified in English language dictionaries as lynching to be a doubleplusungood word and instead insist on interjecting semantically unrelated euphemisms for the concept. I continue to commit the thoughtcrime of unfiltered vocabulary. Best post
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Mar 12, 2015 22:40
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I dunno, it strikes me as deeply insensitive to the billions already lost to the Skeleton Wars.
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Mar 12, 2015 22:42
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Yeh it really was a good post. Lumpen is quite beautiful sometimes.
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Mar 12, 2015 22:42
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##vote anonnarc it is
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Mar 12, 2015 22:46
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I know Narc is crazy busy, I'll vote her to save my own scales but I don't think she's scum.
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Mar 12, 2015 22:48
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Somberbrero, I consider a refusal to specifically claim, but going so far as to softclaim a power role, quite Scummy.
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Mar 12, 2015 22:50
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Somberbrero posted:I know Narc is crazy busy, I'll vote her to save my own scales but I don't think she's scum. Just so everyone knows, I'm trying to get replaced in this game. I am insanely busy for the next week or so and shouldn't have signed up. So yeah my lovely posting mostly has to do with that.
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Mar 12, 2015 22:51
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Somberbrero posted:Well, I thought the other interpretation was obvious. I've been lunched a lot day one and I thought it'd be nice not to have to worry about that. Like you said somewhere else in the thread, to paraphrase "Why care about that? there are plenty of other games starting around here". (Honest! I'll get around to mine!) If you were scum and you knew you had a way to clear yourself D1, wouldn't it make sense to take it. It would only be nonsensical if you didn't believe Ernie. Hold up. Yeah, thinking harder, there are definite holes or required assumptions for this to be plausible. The main point was the opportunism and intent for survival. It could swing that you just really really want to be a dragon. Required assumptions for you to be scum: You believed Ernie, You would actually be cleared by a Lie detector thus you don't have a night kill. Reading through, I do believe you believed Ernie. But the second part requires an odd scum set up. For reference, this would have worked for some players in a recent game where kills were restricted to certain scum players but moved as they died off. It was some sort of item game run by some mod or other. But it's a lot of set-up speculation required for a game that doesn't show any signs of being out of the ordinary thus far. I have an assumption which, you can try to breadcrumb to me I guess. If I'm right that you have some specific reason to survive that doesn't rely on you being scum, then that would make the most sense to me. But you're right, for now there is no reason currently to pursue this. ##unvote
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Mar 12, 2015 22:51
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I'm setting a phone alarm but I need to do other things, so I might not return before deadline (I probably will). right now I still want somber to die more than anyone else, I've shown his points to be bad and scummy and there are other things like what Lumpen is saying that are scummy. MC ED is a pretty probably scumbo but I am less inclined to kill him tonight than AnonNarc, I think. I think somber is the best mix of probability of being scum and probability of being able to find something that incriminates others based on if he flips town or scum.
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Mar 12, 2015 22:54
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:Just so everyone knows, I'm trying to get replaced in this game. I am insanely busy for the next week or so and shouldn't have signed up. So yeah my lovely posting mostly has to do with that. ugh this stuff sucks so close to a deadline, just makes me feel like narc is a power role or scum or both. I don't like the WIFOM or whatever that comes with this type of behaviour.
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Mar 12, 2015 22:55
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We could save Opop the hassle of finding a replacement who is probably terrible and just dunk her
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Mar 12, 2015 22:57
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TheRam posted:I'm setting a phone alarm but I need to do other things, so I might not return before deadline (I probably will). You've shown how you could consider my posts to be bad, which does not imply alignment. You have not shown how you could consider my posts to be scummy. You've also shown zero doubt that I will flip scum, as evidenced by your preemptive disbelief in me claiming a power role. I find that ridiculous. As sure as I am that you are scum, and I am very sure, I know there's a chance I could be wrong. I don't think much of your reasoning and I too often make the mistake of bad ! = scum.
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Mar 12, 2015 22:57
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TheRam posted:ugh this stuff sucks so close to a deadline, just makes me feel like narc is a power role or scum or both. I don't like the WIFOM or whatever that comes with this type of behaviour. narc is replacing, therefore, narc is scum/power role/both. how the gently caress is this guy leading today's dunk?
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Mar 12, 2015 22:58
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Amoeba102 posted:Reading through, I do believe you believed Ernie. But the second part requires an odd scum set up. For reference, this would have worked for some players in a recent game where kills were restricted to certain scum players but moved as they died off. It was some sort of item game run by some mod or other. This is true, I'm mostly ignoring it because of everything else to do with Somb. Narc replacing out makes me feel ughhh but also like I'd still kill Narc, and MC ED is a claimed busdriver but I think for reasons that I'm 100% not going into that I'd like to keep him/her alive. if you want a lazy lynch Narc is way better than accountantman. Someone is going to replace in D2 to a player who has been actively scummy > a lurker who imo reads town.
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Mar 12, 2015 22:59
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Somberbrero posted:You've shown how you could consider my posts to be bad, which does not imply alignment. You have not shown how you could consider my posts to be scummy. You can misrepresent my reasoning as much as you want, you've demonstrated an inability to understand me and I'm not going to keep bashing my head against a wall.
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Mar 12, 2015 23:02
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Somberbrero posted:narc is replacing, therefore, narc is scum/power role/both. anyone wants my reasoning on anything somb asks then ask me about it, otherwise I'm just going to assume it doesn't matter to anyone and not poo poo up the thread
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Mar 12, 2015 23:03
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TheRam posted:You can misrepresent my reasoning as much as you want, you've demonstrated an inability to understand me and I'm not going to keep bashing my head against a wall. It's not my inability to understand you, it's your inability to communicate effectively. If you're town, how can you look at the votes on your case and think 'Yes, I'm doing a good thing.' 
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Mar 12, 2015 23:04
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Because he is. He's having fun, that's kind of the point of a game, ya'll.
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Mar 12, 2015 23:12
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Ernie. posted:this post is a lie, by the way and i can prove it to everyone Walk me through this one Ernie.
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Mar 12, 2015 23:50
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I don't know about you guys but I am occasionally using the word "lunch" because my phone apparently doesn't think lynch is a real word
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Mar 12, 2015 23:58
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10 am isn't too early for lunch, right?
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Mar 13, 2015 00:00
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##vote Ernie His vote on Narc is picking an easy target for newbie tells. I think he should know better than that for a D1 lynch.
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Mar 13, 2015 00:03
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Amoeba102 posted:##vote Ernie who will you vote other than this because it's pretty close to deadline I think you know this probably isn't likely I for one don't want it.
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Mar 13, 2015 00:17
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1 hr 41 mins, my gf is back and I'm doing other things. Kinda hope this thread kicks into action whilst I'm not away.
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Mar 13, 2015 00:19
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Votes are in good places for the most part. I think there are more merits to voting for Anon than Somber though.
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TheRam posted:who will you vote other than this because it's pretty close to deadline I think you know this probably isn't likely In a voting out "anti-town" kind of way I'd vote for merk, numerrik, AnonNarc. Here anti-town means low content and lurking. I've excluded Hal because I won't vote for Hal. I'd rather not vote for numerrik or AnonNarc as they are new. I don't want to vote for Somber because until further developments present themselves, his opportunism isn't strictly scummy in this instance.
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